Trump tells Americans ‘it won’t be easy’

[KhunLA]

8 minutes ago, proton said:

 

The socialist republic of the UK surely? 

Whoa ... 48%

 

That would take your incentive away to produce any more money, expand your business, that provides jobs, and more taxable income.

 

I would have stopped producing income there a long time ago.  That's only $160k USD.   I stopped and left the USA because of 37% tax hit 

 

So reality is, USA lost more tax money from me, in 25 yrs, a lot more, than I've collected from them, in 25 yrs.  By my quick calculation, I would be paying 2.5X plus, what I'm collecting today, If still paid the same amount, as my last tax year.   I get <$2400 a month (<$28.8k yr), and my last tax bill was $74k ... Holy Sh!t ... 

 

And I'm only 1 person.   How many others with enough, simply said enough is enough already, and stopped producing ?  Worse, left and don't even put it back into the economy.

 

Sooner or later, you run out of other people's money 

 

 

 

[BangkokReady]

10 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

It was a mistake to mention that life isn't going to be easy. Western people have grown used to "easy" and have no capacity to accept things being "not easy".

 

It's very difficult to please everyone.  Factory workers want jobs, but people are used to buying cheap plastic junk from China.

 

The challenge comes from the disconnection.  People might feel bad about the crumbling state of society, both physically and metaphorically, but when it comes to paying 10 dollars for something vs. 100 dollars, in that instance, they're going to choose the option that leads to all the things they complain about.

[pomchop]

6 hours ago, hotsun said:

You dont seem to understand there were only two options, trump or america turning into the UK. what do you want americans to do?

I want americans to use what little brains they may have and  stop falling for lie after lie after lie and being in a cult and supporting a convicted felon and life long con man who is only  interested in grifting and golfing and surrounding himself not with qualified people but those who praise dear leader. 

 

 I want americans to stop with all the childish whining about how awful it all is and recognize that overall they are very very lucky to have been born and live in  America and not North Korea.  That would be a start.

[rough diamond]

2 minutes ago, pomchop said:

I want americans to use what little brains they may have and  stop falling for lie after lie after lie and being in a cult and supporting a convicted felon and life long con man who is only  interested in grifting and golfing and surrounding himself not with qualified people but those who praise dear leader. 

 

 I want americans to stop with all the childish whining about how awful it all is and recognize that overall they are very very lucky to have been born and live in  America and not North Korea.  That would be a start.

Well said!

 

[spidermike007]

What Trump has done could precipitate nothing short of a major economic crisis. I think he's gone too far, I think he knows he's gone too far, I think his advisors know he's gone too far, but they're too cowardly to say anything, Fox News is starting to say that he's gone too far, and I think that it may be quite difficult for him to pull back from this brink.

 

He may have set in motion a disaster of historic proportions and he could go down in history as being one of the clumsiest, most idiotic, most reckless, and most dangerous men in the history of America. 

 

I almost feel sorry for the man at this point, and that's a difficult thing for me to say, but I think the junk that's going to fall onto his ugly face is going to be a horrific thing to witness. Or a joyous thing, if you're not heavily invested in the American markets. 

[Harrisfan]

7 minutes ago, pomchop said:

I want americans to use what little brains they may have and  stop falling for lie after lie after lie and being in a cult and supporting a convicted felon and life long con man who is only  interested in grifting and golfing and surrounding himself not with qualified people but those who praise dear leader. 

 

 I want americans to stop with all the childish whining about how awful it all is and recognize that overall they are very very lucky to have been born and live in  America and not North Korea.  That would be a start.

What a massive whine

[Yagoda]

17 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

The MAGA supporters will mostly believe anything he says or how he spins it.

They are very flexible and forgiving of their hero and not the brightest.

We might not be the brightest but we aren't terrorist supporting Socialist loving America haters

[KhunLA]

13 minutes ago, pomchop said:

 I want americans to stop with all the childish whining about how awful it all is and recognize that overall they are very very lucky to have been born and live in  America and not North Korea.  That would be a start.

 

I stated that earlier, as a plus from the USA ... 

 

8 hours ago, KhunLA said:

and the only thing from their that I have, is the birthrate of a passport.

 

[jvs]

2 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

We might not be the brightest but we aren't terrorist supporting Socialist loving America haters

You got the "not the brightest " thing right!!!!

[PomPolo]

At least he is honest 'it wont be easy' having him as president for sure

[rough diamond]

11 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

We might not be the brightest but we aren't terrorist supporting Socialist loving America haters

Don't have to belong to left, right or anything else as only the MAGAmaniacs have even a modicum of support for his idiotic stance.

You voted for the idiot so you can now suffer the consequences as will the rest of the world!

 

PS; where is your answer to my questions reference your lies about the so called 40 non existent  icebreakers?

[rough diamond]

16 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

We might not be the brightest

For once an honest post from you!

[NorthernRyland]

Benjamin has made a good point here. I didn't know myself but apparently American consumers are paying the VAT tax in Thailand when goods are exported to the US. This is especially unfair for US companies that offshored and export back to America. Basically they make the consumer eat the taxes and they get to keep the profits from the cheap labor, then the Thai owned factory profits as well of course.

 

Clearly unfair and something to re-negotiate with Thailand although it's not going to reduce the trade deficit. If this is all the trade war accomplishes with Thailand I'd be happy.

 

It would be typical of Trump to throw out this trade deficit talk as basically B.S. and a means to an end and not really about this thing itself per se. VAT is only like 7% anyways and doesn't come close to the 34% Trump wants on them.

 

 

[NorthernRyland]

5 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Don't have to belong to left, right or anything else as only the MAGAmaniacs have even a modicum of support for his idiotic stance.

You voted for the idiot so you can now suffer the consequences as will the rest of the world!

 

 

Anyone that isn't hopelessly partisan can have an intelligent conversation about trade policy and globalism. People take Trumps blustering too seriously and there is a real issue underneath all of this.

[rough diamond]

26 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

What a massive whine

Why?

[rough diamond]

28 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

What a massive whine

Which is pointing out the basic facts of economic life, which you obviously do not understand, despite you recent AI generated farcical "financial" comments!

[rough diamond]

3 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Anyone that isn't hopelessly partisan can have an intelligent conversation about trade policy and globalism. People take Trumps blustering too seriously and there is a real issue underneath all of this.

The stock market etc does NOT need "bluster" but facts and policies, not the present B.S. from him.

[billd766]

11 hours ago, thaibeachlovers said:

and?

It is at the US taxpayers expense.

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1 hour ago, KhunLA said:

Whoa ... 48%

 

That would take your incentive away to produce any more money, expand your business, that provides jobs, and more taxable income.

 

I would have stopped producing income there a long time ago.  That's only $160k USD.   I stopped and left the USA because of 37% tax hit 

 

So reality is, USA lost more tax money from me, in 25 yrs, a lot more, than I've collected from them, in 25 yrs.  By my quick calculation, I would be paying 2.5X plus, what I'm collecting today, If still paid the same amount, as my last tax year.   I get <$2400 a month (<$28.8k yr), and my last tax bill was $74k ... Holy Sh!t ... 

 

And I'm only 1 person.   How many others with enough, simply said enough is enough already, and stopped producing ?  Worse, left and don't even put it back into the economy.

 

Sooner or later, you run out of other people's money 

 

 

 

It seems to have escaped Khun LA's notice that Trump has just imposed a huge tax increase on Americans.

[SunnyinBangrak]

57 minutes ago, pomchop said:

I want americans to use what little brains they may have and  stop falling for lie after lie after lie and being in a cult and supporting a convicted felon and life long con man who is only  interested in grifting and golfing and surrounding himself not with qualified people but those who praise dear leader. 

 

 I want americans to stop with all the childish whining about how awful it all is and recognize that overall they are very very lucky to have been born and live in  America and not North Korea.  That would be a start.

Did you ever wonder why Trump doesn't take his salary and donates it to good causes. Is that how greedy conmen operate?

You see, unlike your man Burisma Biden who was primarily motivated by greed(see the laptop you guys falsely claimed was a hoax) Trump is motivated by patriotism and love for his country.

 

Interesting that towards the end of your whine, you whine about others whining! Just who is and isn't using their brains?😂

[jvs]

3 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Did you ever wonder why Trump doesn't take his salary and donates it to good causes. Is that how greedy conmen operate?

You see, unlike your man Burisma Biden who was primarily motivated by greed(see the laptop you guys falsely claimed was a hoax) Trump is motivated by patriotism and love for his country.

 

Interesting that towards the end of your whine, you whine about others whining! Just who is and isn't using their brains?😂

Having the secret service stay at his place paying an inflated price?

Selling hats,bibles,guitars and trying to make money off his Trump coin?

I am sure there is a lot more.

You have to come up with something better in order for me to believe he is some kind of saint.

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12 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Did you ever wonder why Trump doesn't take his salary and donates it to good causes. Is that how greedy conmen operate?

You see, unlike your man Burisma Biden who was primarily motivated by greed(see the laptop you guys falsely claimed was a hoax) Trump is motivated by patriotism and love for his country.

 

Interesting that towards the end of your whine, you whine about others whining! Just who is and isn't using their brains?😂

You mean like launching a Trump memecoin just days before he takes office while promising to reduce regulation of crypto? That's just one of his many scams, And the take was far more than even was alleged that Biden took. And I stress "alleged" since you repeatedly make these claims and every time you bring up something specific I shoot it down.

And the Trump family is actually deepening its involvement with crypto.

 

Insight: How the Trump family took over a crypto firm as it raised hundreds of millions

https://archive.ph/DBZbB

 

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

5 minutes ago, placeholder said:

You mean like launching a Trump memecoin just days before he takes office while promising to reduce regulation of crypto? That's just one of his many scams, And the take was far more than even was alleged that Biden took. And I stress "alleged" since you repeatedly make these claims and every time you bring up something specific I shoot it down.

And the Trump family is actually deepening its involvement with crypto.

 

Insight: How the Trump family took over a crypto firm as it raised hundreds of millions

https://archive.ph/DBZbB

 

 

Please don't compare Trump's legal and legitimate business with Biden's web of LLC's taking inexplicable10s of millions from Americas adversaries. You shot nothing down just droning on about Rudy Giuliani and steadfastly ignoring the FBI authenticated the laptop in 2019. You were and are completely on the wrong side of every political issue. 

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1 minute ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

Please don't compare Trump's legal and legitimate business with Biden's web of LLC's taking inexplicable10s of millions from Americas adversaries. You shot nothing down just droning on about Rudy Giuliani and steadfastly ignoring the FBI authenticated the laptop in 2019. You were and are completely on the wrong side of every political issue. 

To date, there has been no proof that Joe Biden profited even by a nickle from Hunter Biden's activities. And while it may be legal for the Trump to do what he's doing, it wouldn't be legal for a member of the cabinet. Lawmakers never imagined that a President could be so sleazy so they never put restrictions on them.

[SunnyinBangrak]

1 minute ago, placeholder said:

To date, there has been no proof that Joe Biden profited even by a nickle from Hunter Biden's activities. And while it may be legal for the Trump to do what he's doing, it wouldn't be legal for a member of the cabinet. Lawmakers never imagined that a President could be so sleazy so they never put restrictions on them.

So can you confirm, Trump will be free to craft foreign policy to enrich himself and family so long as he launders the ill gotten gains through 28 LLC's?? Really??

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8 minutes ago, SunnyinBangrak said:

So can you confirm, Trump will be free to craft foreign policy to enrich himself and family so long as he launders the ill gotten gains through 28 LLC's?? Really??

You really want to bring up the issue of LLC's? Big mistake.

This is from the Marxist-Leninists at Rupert Murdoch's Wall St. Journal:

 

How Donald Trump’s Web of LLCs Obscures His Business Interests
The opacity of his holdings makes it impossible to gauge the full extent of potential conflicts he may face as president

https://archive.ph/bBmSW

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-donald-trumps-web-of-llcs-obscures-his-business-interests-1481193002

[rough diamond]

1 hour ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

  People take Trumps blustering too seriously and there is a real issue underneath all of this.

Please explain what that real issue is!

[NorthernRyland]

56 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Please explain what that real issue is!

 

This is the same old debate about Globalism and free trade that has been going on for decades now. Go listen to some economists on both sides to hear the arguments.  

 

In particular interest to us here are import taxes which affect expats and hurt US exporters. Those deals could be renegotiated after this fallout.

[rough diamond]

37 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

This is the same old debate about Globalism and free trade that has been going on for decades now. Go listen to some economists on both sides to hear the arguments.  

 

In particular interest to us here are import taxes which affect expats and hurt US exporters. Those deals could be renegotiated after this fallout.

Too late for negotiations as Trump can never ever be trusted over anything again!

Even assuming he ever was trusted over anything before!!

[Keep Right]

 

Even Ringo knows "It Don't come Easy." But the left wing socialist, globalist Democrats always want the easy way no matter how much the U.S. suffers under hyper inflation and historical high debt. Its all about free stuff with the Democrats and socialism. Just gime, gime, gime.