Bee Removal

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3 hours ago, ujayujay said:

Normal Thai honey bees, definitely not hornets! See YT video from minute 17.....

 

That's them.

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5 hours ago, NORDO said:

If you are not trying to capture or kill them, then get a metal container and build a very smokey fire below them for a day.  Not huge fire, just smokey.  It disrupts their communications and they will swarm to a new location.

My aim here is to be an observer to the process rather than a participant.  I could see this going badly, and I'm sure not the 'Bee Whisperer'.😉

[arick]

1 hour ago, digger70 said:

Split aircons have the compressor and condenser outside and fan  they need cleaning when dirty.

No they don't! At least mine doesn't . 

[Andycoops]

I've had problems in the past with those big ugly ones, very poisonous stings you swell up considerably, if stung.

 

The only way is to burn them out after dark when they are less active with a flame thrower, my guy used a hand held petrol thing, worked a treat.

[Foek]

Put a few Mosquite charcoals / insense close to the tree , they will move by them self as the Queen dont like the smell of it.

[IsaanT]

Hi.  I am an experienced beekeeper.  Unfortunately, I'm down in Roi Et otherwise I'd come and remove them for you.

The chances are that they are apis mellifera, the European honey bee (your photo certainly looks like it).  Your climate there suits them and most Thai honey is produced in your region; unfortunately, it's slightly too hot for them here.

I used to collect local swarms for our bee club members back in Cambridgeshire prior to emigrating (we would re-house collected swarms in members' hives).  The method is very simple.  Put a large box or container (plastic dustbin) under the swarm and give the tree branch they are hanging from a hefty knock.  The bees will fall into the container.  Obviously some will fly around but the magic now occurs.  The chances are good that the queen (who is in the swarm somewhere) falls in the box.  The bees in the container will stay there, even though the top of the container is open.  The workers (all the other bees in the swarm) are attracted to her pheromones and, if they're not already, make their way into the box to join her.  Have a cup of tea.  Typically, after 30-60 minutes, all the bees are together in the box.  Put the lid on (or close the flaps of a cardboard box) and then transport it away.  You will be able to find videos on YouTube if you look for 'swarm collection'.

Usually, despite their intimidating appearance, swarms are actually very docile.  It sounds like your bees are agitated so anyone attempting this does need to wear a bee suit. 

p.s. I recently acquired two hives of miniature stingless bees (apis melipona).  They're slightly smaller than house flies but, as the name suggests, are totally harmless and are great pollinators.  995THB for each hive, on Shopee.

[digger70]

2 hours ago, arick said:

No they don't! At least mine doesn't . 

Well you either don't have a Split system or your outside part of your System is going to be awful dirty over the years  if not cleaned.  Not good for the system.

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1 hour ago, IsaanT said:

Hi.  I am an experienced beekeeper.  Unfortunately, I'm down in Roi Et otherwise I'd come and remove them for you.

The chances are that they are apis mellifera, the European honey bee (your photo certainly looks like it).  Your climate there suits them and most Thai honey is produced in your region; unfortunately, it's slightly too hot for them here.

I used to collect local swarms for our bee club members back in Cambridgeshire prior to emigrating (we would re-house collected swarms in members' hives).  The method is very simple.  Put a large box or container (plastic dustbin) under the swarm and give the tree branch they are hanging from a hefty knock.  The bees will fall into the container.  Obviously some will fly around but the magic now occurs.  The chances are good that the queen (who is in the swarm somewhere) falls in the box.  The bees in the container will stay there, even though the top of the container is open.  The workers (all the other bees in the swarm) are attracted to her pheromones and, if they're not already, make their way into the box to join her.  Have a cup of tea.  Typically, after 30-60 minutes, all the bees are together in the box.  Put the lid on (or close the flaps of a cardboard box) and then transport it away.  You will be able to find videos on YouTube if you look for 'swarm collection'.

Usually, despite their intimidating appearance, swarms are actually very docile.  It sounds like your bees are agitated so anyone attempting this does need to wear a bee suit. 

p.s. I recently acquired two hives of miniature stingless bees (apis melipona).  They're slightly smaller than house flies but, as the name suggests, are totally harmless and are great pollinators.  995THB for each hive, on Shopee.

Too bad you're not local- I'd like to see how they're properly handled.  From what I've been told, though,  the Tessaban uses an experienced beekeeper who will take the hive to his property to harvest the honey.  My neighbor also said a friend of his recommended someone who might come in the next few days (the Tessaban can't come until after Songkran)- the bees scared off his gardener, so he wouldn't mind seeing them gone sooner.

[IsaanT]

23 minutes ago, flare said:

From what I've been told, though,  the Tessaban uses an experienced beekeeper who will take the hive to his property to harvest the honey.

There may be a mix-up in terminology here, or I've misinterpreted something.

What we're looking at in your photo is a swarm of bees.  There's no honey to be had from a swarm (honey is only ever stored in the wax honeycomb in a hive).  Now if the hive from which the bees swarmed is nearby (it should be within a few hundred metres) and its location is known, that's potentially an opportunity to get some honey, although there will be a small colony of bees left in the original hive and they probably want to keep it. 🙂

The only other possibility I can see is that the bees have been in the tree for some time (several weeks, minimum), and made a nest there.  If so, there may be wax and honey.

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12 hours ago, IsaanT said:

There may be a mix-up in terminology here, or I've misinterpreted something.

What we're looking at in your photo is a swarm of bees.  There's no honey to be had from a swarm (honey is only ever stored in the wax honeycomb in a hive).  Now if the hive from which the bees swarmed is nearby (it should be within a few hundred metres) and its location is known, that's potentially an opportunity to get some honey, although there will be a small colony of bees left in the original hive and they probably want to keep it. 🙂

The only other possibility I can see is that the bees have been in the tree for some time (several weeks, minimum), and made a nest there.  If so, there may be wax and honey.

Ah, OK- I thought they were clinging to a honeycomb and producing honey- I don't have much bee experience other than being stung a few times (though none from this swarm have gotten me yet).  They've been there for quite a while, but they only recently increased in size (they doubled in a very short time).

 

When they're finally moved I'll try to get pics as I'd like to hear from you if it was done correctly.

[IsaanT]

2 hours ago, flare said:

When they're finally moved I'll try to get pics as I'd like to hear from you if it was done correctly.

When it's done, it's done! 🙂

If you do ask for comment I'll be careful what I say so nobody loses face.  I hope it goes well for you.

[arick]

21 hours ago, digger70 said:

Well you either don't have a Split system or your outside part of your System is going to be awful dirty over the years  if not cleaned.  Not good for the system.

It's working fine

[digger70]

20 hours ago, arick said:

It's working fine

Time will tell 🙏