After Asylum: A Glimpse Inside the Hidden Realities of the UK Refugee Hotel System

[Rimmer]

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[recom273]

On 4/13/2025 at 1:20 PM, nauseus said:

 

 

The links send me to the same site. So there is money, food and accommodation available, whichever way you  look at it. And from news reports there may be quite a bit more than that, too.

 

But I was more interested in your comment saying: "after they are up and running they contribute far more than UK citizens that enables them to use the NHS and they pay a higher rate of tax". Where on earth did you get this from? I need to know because it sounds like bs. Or  by "up and running" do you mean leaving government paid accommodations to hide in the shady illegal economy in UK towns and cities??

 

 

I may have been a bit confused there .. maybe I was confusing the NHS surcharge for migrants, which is a little over 1000 quid per year. It only applies to those applying through legit channels. Sorry, my bad.

 

i think this is the link I wanted to post before https://fullfact.org/immigration/illegal-immigrant-benefits-access/ 

 

Yes, There is money, food and accommodation available, but what would you think, does the UK government round them up and put them behind a barbed fence? I was more replying to the post that mentioned “free money”, which I don’t think is true. If their ex-hotel provides a basic meal, then they get 8 quid a week to spend, hardly a goldmine. Accommodation is provided, with often up to 4 single males to a room.
 

What I find more shocking than the refugee situation is that it costs the UK tax payer, £4.3B quid per year and there is such a backlog (created by the conservatives refusal to process) that it can take 3 years to process a claim, a majority of the ex-hotels are operated by private companies, one company, “Clearsprings Ready Homes reported profits of £62.5 million” clear spring is also mentioned in reports that 16M was paid directly into an offshore account, so someone hooked their mates up pretty well - other companies are the mears group, serco. Britannia hotels (I think, 40M profit in 2023) 

 

I don't know anything about shady illegal economy, but “Once granted refugee status and authorized to work, many refugees begin contributing to the economy through taxes. The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) estimates that migrants of working age contribute around £19,500 per year in taxes, comparable to the average UK adult”

[James105]

12 hours ago, recom273 said:

I may have been a bit confused there .. maybe I was confusing the NHS surcharge for migrants, which is a little over 1000 quid per year. It only applies to those applying through legit channels. Sorry, my bad.

 

i think this is the link I wanted to post before https://fullfact.org/immigration/illegal-immigrant-benefits-access/ 

 

Yes, There is money, food and accommodation available, but what would you think, does the UK government round them up and put them behind a barbed fence? I was more replying to the post that mentioned “free money”, which I don’t think is true. If their ex-hotel provides a basic meal, then they get 8 quid a week to spend, hardly a goldmine. Accommodation is provided, with often up to 4 single males to a room.
 

What I find more shocking than the refugee situation is that it costs the UK tax payer, £4.3B quid per year and there is such a backlog (created by the conservatives refusal to process) that it can take 3 years to process a claim, a majority of the ex-hotels are operated by private companies, one company, “Clearsprings Ready Homes reported profits of £62.5 million” clear spring is also mentioned in reports that 16M was paid directly into an offshore account, so someone hooked their mates up pretty well - other companies are the mears group, serco. Britannia hotels (I think, 40M profit in 2023) 

 

I don't know anything about shady illegal economy, but “Once granted refugee status and authorized to work, many refugees begin contributing to the economy through taxes. The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) estimates that migrants of working age contribute around £19,500 per year in taxes, comparable to the average UK adult”

 

To be a net contributor to the UK someone needs to earn around £41,000 per year.   The average salary in the UK is about £37,000.   Even if those people do earn a salary then they will still be a fiscal drain on social housing, the health system and the welfare system.   Every time someone illegally enters the UK it costs the UK financially and culturally and the fact they entered illegally in the first place shows that they have zero respect for the laws of the UK.   Then you have the likes of the Abedi family who entered the UK via the Asylum system before one of their sons went on to kill 22 people (mostly kids) in the Manchester Arena bombing.   Or the Rudakubana family whos son went on to murder 3 little girls in Southport.   Then there is the unknown amount on the terror watchlists who have to be monitored by the security services at some probably horrendous unknown cost.  

 

To pretend that there is "any" benefit to illegal immigrants from anywhere outside Europe (other than Hong Kong of course which are probably included in those figures you quote) entering the UK is naivety or delusion of the highest order.   

[Photoguy21]

On 4/13/2025 at 1:36 PM, newbee2022 said:

.....if it would be so easy....

They can sort it out but dont want to

[newbee2022]

2 hours ago, Photoguy21 said:

They can sort it out but dont want to

Simply not possible

[Photoguy21]

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Simply not possible

Everything is possible if there is the will. Unfortunately the UK government are a disaster so it wont happen until the unrest becomes unmanageable.

[newbee2022]

45 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

Everything is possible if there is the will. Unfortunately the UK government are a disaster so it wont happen until the unrest becomes unmanageable.

I'm happy to see a competent PM Starmer.

However, it's not easy to tackle all these unsolved problems left by the Thory clowns.

[Photoguy21]

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I'm happy to see a competent PM Starmer.

However, it's not easy to tackle all these unsolved problems left by the Thory clowns.

No idea what you are drinking but I would suggest you stop drinking it. If the PM and his like stopped blaming everyone except himself then maybe people would have a better opinion of him, doubtful but maybe.

[James105]

11 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

I'm happy to see a competent PM Starmer.

However, it's not easy to tackle all these unsolved problems left by the Thory clowns.

 

Competent you say?  How is his "smashing the gangs" policy going?  Last time I looked illegal immigration was up 40% on this time last year and the UK is heading for record numbers of illegal immigrants which makes the UK a more dangerous place for its citizens.   I presume you meant to type incompetent which is a far more accurate word to describe the absolute moron of a PM the UK is currently suffering under.   

[Hanaguma]

14 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Competent you say?  How is his "smashing the gangs" policy going?  Last time I looked illegal immigration was up 40% on this time last year and the UK is heading for record numbers of illegal immigrants which makes the UK a more dangerous place for its citizens.   I presume you meant to type incompetent which is a far more accurate word to describe the absolute moron of a PM the UK is currently suffering under.   

Meanwhile, the Bad Orange Man has reduced illegal immigration by 93% compared to a year ago. Just 8,000 illegal crossings in February.  

 

Brits are too enslaved by white liberal guilt to do what is necessary.

[newbee2022]

35 minutes ago, Photoguy21 said:

No idea what you are drinking but I would suggest you stop drinking it. If the PM and his like stopped blaming everyone except himself then maybe people would have a better opinion of him, doubtful but maybe.

I drink Tea. Gives a clear head.. And you? Try it 🤗

[newbee2022]

28 minutes ago, James105 said:

 

Competent you say?  How is his "smashing the gangs" policy going?  Last time I looked illegal immigration was up 40% on this time last year and the UK is heading for record numbers of illegal immigrants which makes the UK a more dangerous place for its citizens.   I presume you meant to type incompetent which is a far more accurate word to describe the absolute moron of a PM the UK is currently suffering under.   

You didn't read this obviously:

 

"not easy to tackle all these unsolved problems left by the Tory clowns"

 

This chaos was created over a decade and more by Tories. A good time for all sorts of criminals.

[rough diamond]

57 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Meanwhile, the Bad Orange Man has reduced illegal immigration by 93% compared to a year ago. Just 8,000 illegal crossings in February.  

 

Brits are too enslaved by white liberal guilt to do what is necessary.

Your illegals are crossing land borders!

The UK ones come by sea where SOLAS regulations apply.

[Hanaguma]

18 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

Your illegals are crossing land borders!

The UK ones come by sea where SOLAS regulations apply.

Tow them back to France? Mine the Channel? Blockade Calais? If they are on unsafe vessels, load them onto safe ones and ferry them back where they came from?

[rough diamond]

2 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Tow them back to France? Mine the Channel? Blockade Calais? If they are on unsafe vessels, load them onto safe ones and ferry them back where they came from?

You obviously do not understand SOLAS or asylum rules!

[Hanaguma]

2 minutes ago, rough diamond said:

You obviously do not understand SOLAS or asylum rules!

My idea was that asylum seekers should seek asylum in the FIRST safe country they manage to escape into. Not the country of their choice, and not the 7th or 8th safe country they have travelled across. Why should the UK take them when they were perfectly safe in France?

[rough diamond]

Just now, Hanaguma said:

My idea was that asylum seekers should seek asylum in the FIRST safe country they manage to escape into. Not the country of their choice, and not the 7th or 8th safe country they have travelled across. Why should the UK take them when they were perfectly safe in France?

I will say it again; You obviously do not understand SOLAS or asylum rules!

[recom273]

12 hours ago, James105 said:

 

To be a net contributor to the UK someone needs to earn around £41,000 per year.   The average salary in the UK is about £37,000.   Even if those people do earn a salary then they will still be a fiscal drain on social housing, the health system and the welfare system.   Every time someone illegally enters the UK it costs the UK financially and culturally and the fact they entered illegally in the first place shows that they have zero respect for the laws of the UK.   Then you have the likes of the Abedi family who entered the UK via the Asylum system before one of their sons went on to kill 22 people (mostly kids) in the Manchester Arena bombing.   Or the Rudakubana family whos son went on to murder 3 little girls in Southport.   Then there is the unknown amount on the terror watchlists who have to be monitored by the security services at some probably horrendous unknown cost.  

 

To pretend that there is "any" benefit to illegal immigrants from anywhere outside Europe (other than Hong Kong of course which are probably included in those figures you quote) entering the UK is naivety or delusion of the highest order.   

But the focus of this article is about the asylum seekers from small boats and hotels - Illegal entrants only make up 10% of net migration.

[nauseus]

7 hours ago, rough diamond said:

I will say it again; You obviously do not understand SOLAS or asylum rules!

 

And the French don't give a fig about them anyway. 

[James105]

17 hours ago, rough diamond said:

I will say it again; You obviously do not understand SOLAS or asylum rules!

 

Why do leftists always fall back to laws or regulations created in different times?   What do these "rules" say about people throwing away their documents and lying about their age or origin, or people smugglers charging people for smuggling them into countries, or spreading propaganda on TikTok on how they can abuse the kindness of western countries welfare systems?  Nothing, because they were created in a different time and are irrelevant to what is happening today.   What we have today is equivalent to an invasion.  Yesterday about 700 illegals (mostly fighting aged men) crossed the channel into the UK.  This is a larger force than an army regiment in the UK which is comprised of 600 soldiers.   

 

The UK is and continues to be a sovereign country with clearly defined borders.   To claim that it should not be allowed to protect those borders from those who want to rape and pillage its welfare system, its health system, its social housing, its tolerance and its women and children is absolute nonsense.   The illegal immigrants present a clear threat to the UK and its citizens, and any and all measures (including the use of the Royal Navy) to defend and protect its way of life could and should be used.   

[nauseus]

19 hours ago, rough diamond said:

I will say it again; You obviously do not understand SOLAS or asylum rules!

 

It looks like that it's you who does not do not understand what SOLAS rules apply to. SOLAS regulations are relevant to merchant shipping; they were certainly not created with overloaded rubber ducks in mind.

 

It is the French, who encourage and allow the people smugglers to send these unseaworthy boats off into immediate danger. The UK is just wasting money on the French by trusting them. 

[recom273]

13 hours ago, James105 said:

 

Why do leftists always fall back to laws or regulations created in different times?   What do these "rules" say about people throwing away their documents and lying about their age or origin, or people smugglers charging people for smuggling them into countries, or spreading propaganda on TikTok on how they can abuse the kindness of western countries welfare systems?  Nothing, because they were created in a different time and are irrelevant to what is happening today.   What we have today is equivalent to an invasion.  Yesterday about 700 illegals (mostly fighting aged men) crossed the channel into the UK.  This is a larger force than an army regiment in the UK which is comprised of 600 soldiers.   

 

The UK is and continues to be a sovereign country with clearly defined borders.   To claim that it should not be allowed to protect those borders from those who want to rape and pillage its welfare system, its health system, its social housing, its tolerance and its women and children is absolute nonsense.   The illegal immigrants present a clear threat to the UK and its citizens, and any and all measures (including the use of the Royal Navy) to defend and protect its way of life could and should be used.   

Just wondering where you got this report?

 

Thats a lot.
 

I think there were only 2 days over last summer when illegal entries went over 700. March 15 saw the biggest entry, 11 boats, loaded with 500 odd .. a number that you stated must have got some newspaper coverage, but I didn’t find any. Do you have a link?