Why so many conspiracy theorists and what to do about them

[kwilco]

2 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Too few of those, our ranks are growing. We are a plague and should not exist, so what should the Good People do about us? It's a fundamental issue.

So where is you evidence? Your figures????

 

[rattlesnake]

8 minutes ago, kwilco said:

So where is you evidence? Your figures????

 

 

Evidence of what? Of the growing number of "conspiracy theorists"? It is observable empirically, hence the constant reminders of our existence and nuisance. We even managed to get one of our guys in the White House.

[kwilco]

3 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

Evidence of what?

QED!

[rattlesnake]

3 minutes ago, kwilco said:

QED!

 

Please explain.

[richard_smith237]

5 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Too few of those, our ranks are growing. We are a plague and should not exist, so what should the Good People do about us? It's a fundamental issue.

Put you on an island & leave you unvaccinated ???

 

… you need antibiotics? 

[rattlesnake]

31 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

Put you on an island & leave you unvaccinated ???

 

… you need antibiotics? 

 

Kind of like the quarantine camps the CDC had in store… Good thing Warp Speed short-circuited that plan.

 

(I am not against antibiotics).

[Red Phoenix]

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Kind of like the quarantine camps the CDC had in store… Good thing Warp Speed short-circuited that plan.

(I am not against antibiotics).

 

Dick Smith misrepresented my stance on antibiotics.

I simply wrote that I had not taken any antibiotics for as long as I can remember (and surely more than 30-40 years). 

So for the record:

> I am NOT against antibiotics.

And anyone that thinks they are indicated for a medical condition they have, should be free to take them.

 

But I have always shunned them as they interfere with the natural healing process, and I will ONLY use them in case of an urgent real life-threatening condition where they are indicated.  

Everybody should be free to take whatever they believe will help them, and that includes vaccines and the mRNA gen-therapy.  But yes, I am against vaccines

And I will not cease spreading Food for Thought, sometimes of the blunt in-your-face kind, so that at least the believers hear a different tune than the 24/7 Big Pharma propaganda, and can make up their mind.

[save the frogs]

11 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

I am NOT against antibiotics.

 

i had a serious infection on my finger. i had no choice but to take antibiotics. but i havent taken them often in the last 20 years. 

 

antbiotics have been over-prescribed.

 

but one reason people take so much antibiotics is because of our work culture. in many cases, if you just take a few days off work, the body will recover on its own. 

 

 

[KhunLA]

to the title ...

 

... may want to pay attention to a few of them, as you may learn something.

 

A little deprogramming from MSM would help most people 

[JAG]

On 4/19/2025 at 11:51 AM, richard_smith237 said:

Flat earthers,

The Flat Earth thing has at least been empirically disproved!

 

[kwilco]

I blame Mulder and Scully…
“The truth is out there.” But so are the stories we want to believe.

 

Conspiracy theories aren’t new—they’ve always been around. Ancient Rome had rumours of secret cults. The Middle Ages blamed plagues on shadowy plots. Fire of London had Riots blaming foreigners. In the 20th century, it was aliens, secret societies, and the Bermuda Triangle swallowing ships whole.
“Chariots of the Gods” sold the idea that ancient structures meant aliens were behind it all—not brilliant human engineering. Why? Because a mystery feels more thrilling than facts. And blaming the unknown feels better than admitting we just don’t know everything.
These theories survive not because they’re proven—but because they feel good:
They turn confusion into clarity, they make believers feel special, “in the know", they replace chaos with a story.

 

But here’s the challenge:
If conspiracy theories have always existed—even before modern science, the internet, or government intelligence—is it possible we’re repeating the same pattern? Creating myths to feel in control?
Even Mulder had to face dead ends. And Scully kept asking the hard questions.
So ask yourself: Are you actually chasing the truth? Or just an need for a version of a very old fantasy?
 

[kwilco]

It seems that people don't actually know how vaccines (and antibiotics) work - they use "natural" processes of the body - people love to make a fake difference between natural and some other category - they never explain the difference though.

 

[kwilco]

It seems the US is on the brink of measles becoming endemic again. They are facing a serious public health risk. Measles, once eradicated in 2000, is on the verge of becoming endemic again due to falling vaccination rates. So far in 2025, measles cases have surged 180% compared to the whole of 2024. It’s already marking the second-highest annual case count in 25 years, according to the CDC.

A new study published in Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) projects that at current MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccination levels, the US could see over 850,000 measles cases over the next 25 years. 
A 10% drop in vaccination could lead to 11 million cases. More extreme declines (50%) could bring back measles, rubella, and even polio—with staggering health impacts including hundreds of thousands of deaths and hospitalizations.

In  Texas alone the current outbreak has seen over 600 cases and 2 deaths, among unvaccinated individuals in tight-knit communities. Researchers warn that just a 5% drop in vaccination rates could push measles into widespread resurgence—emphasizing that even small declines have outsized impacts.
The main thing to bear in mind is that vaccination rates are slipping, and the consequences could be catastrophic. Public health experts stress that reversing this trend is crucial to prevent a return of preventable, deadly diseases.
 

[save the frogs]

Check this out.

Scientist hires a hitman because the guy was going to rat him out. 

Doctor claimed he had a cure for HIV. 

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

23 minutes ago, kwilco said:

It seems the US is on the brink of measles becoming endemic again. They are facing a serious public health risk. Measles, once eradicated in 2000, is on the verge of becoming endemic again due to falling vaccination rates. So far in 2025, measles cases have surged 180% compared to the whole of 2024. It’s already marking the second-highest annual case count in 25 years, according to the CDC.

A new study published in Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) projects that at current MMR (measles-mumps-rubella) vaccination levels, the US could see over 850,000 measles cases over the next 25 years. 
A 10% drop in vaccination could lead to 11 million cases. More extreme declines (50%) could bring back measles, rubella, and even polio—with staggering health impacts including hundreds of thousands of deaths and hospitalizations.

In  Texas alone the current outbreak has seen over 600 cases and 2 deaths, among unvaccinated individuals in tight-knit communities. Researchers warn that just a 5% drop in vaccination rates could push measles into widespread resurgence—emphasizing that even small declines have outsized impacts.
The main thing to bear in mind is that vaccination rates are slipping, and the consequences could be catastrophic. Public health experts stress that reversing this trend is crucial to prevent a return of preventable, deadly diseases.
 

Let's put things in perspective.

In 2024, the World Health Organization (WHO) European Region reported a total of 127,350 measles cases, Preliminary data up to 6 March 2025 indicate that 38 deaths were associated with measles during that year, so a case-fatality rate of approximately 0.03%.

In comparison the US reported 285 confirmed measles cases in 2024.

And as of April 25, 2025 (today), the United States has reported over 800 confirmed measles cases

Of those 800 cases there have been 2 confirmed deaths, both involving children in Texas, and 1 additional death under investigation.

That's 0,4 %.

The point here is of course whether those deaths are caused by measles, or whether other factors (like existing co-morbidities, incorrect hospital treatment, etc.) are at play here. 

The conspiracy theorist in me finds it suspiciously convenient for the vax-pushers to stoke up the fear for what was once a common childhood disease.  With the collapse of their Covid-19 shots (even while it is still on the childhood innoculation scheme) they are in dire need of a new pandemic to get people roll up their sleeves for their toxic products...

[LosLobo]

1 hour ago, Red Phoenix said:

Let's put things in perspective.

In 2024, the World Health Organization (WHO) European Region reported a total of 127,350 measles cases, Preliminary data up to 6 March 2025 indicate that 38 deaths were associated with measles during that year, so a case-fatality rate of approximately 0.03%.

In comparison the US reported 285 confirmed measles cases in 2024.

And as of April 25, 2025 (today), the United States has reported over 800 confirmed measles cases

Of those 800 cases there have been 2 confirmed deaths, both involving children in Texas, and 1 additional death under investigation.

That's 0,4 %.

The point here is of course whether those deaths are caused by measles, or whether other factors (like existing co-morbidities, incorrect hospital treatment, etc.) are at play here. 

The conspiracy theorist in me finds it suspiciously convenient for the vax-pushers to stoke up the fear for what was once a common childhood disease.  With the collapse of their Covid-19 shots (even while it is still on the childhood innoculation scheme) they are in dire need of a new pandemic to get people roll up their sleeves for their toxic products...

Let's put things into perspective!
 

You’re comparing a few hundred U.S. cases with two tragic deaths to 127,000+ cases in Europe and treating the difference in fatality rate as proof of some agenda.
 

When your sample size is tiny, every data point moves the average dramatically.
 

You're not exposing a cover-up — you're exposing your misunderstanding of Statistics 101, along with your lack of logic and reasoning.
 

Imagine thinking two dead kids is an acceptable trade-off just to oppose a vaccine that doesn’t cause autism and rarely causes any serious side effects

 

Downplaying real harm and inflating invented risks isn’t skepticism — it’s misinformation dressed up as critical thinking.

[Red Phoenix]

18 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Let's put things into perspective!
 

You’re comparing a few hundred U.S. cases with two tragic deaths to 127,000+ cases in Europe and treating the difference in fatality rate as proof of some agenda.
 

When your sample size is tiny, every data point moves the average dramatically.
 

You're not exposing a cover-up — you're exposing your misunderstanding of Statistics 101, along with your lack of logic and reasoning.
 

Imagine thinking two dead kids is an acceptable trade-off just to oppose a vaccine that doesn’t cause autism and rarely causes any serious side effects

 

Downplaying real harm and inflating invented risks isn’t skepticism — it’s misinformation dressed up as critical thinking.

The perspective is not of a statistical nature, it is simply that in 2024 there were 450 times more measles cases in Europe than in US.  But in Europe measles is largely treated as a common childhood disease, and no hysterical pandemic scare to coerce people in getting their measles shots, 

[Will B Good]

 

 

Conspiracy theorists have a theory that organisations are conspiring to stop them spreading conspiracies......don't forget....just because you're paranoid doesn't mean people aren't out to get you.

[kwilco]

the basis of every conspiracy theory is just a little bit of truth to get it started,,

[kwilco]

Measles isn’t some harmless rite of passage—it’s a highly contagious, potentially deadly disease that we had nearly eliminated thanks to vaccines.

Now? Cases are surging. Over 127,000 in Europe last year. 800+ in the US already this year. And yes, children are dying.

Those aren’t just “co-morbidities” or “bad luck.” They’re preventable tragedies in a world that’s turned basic science into a debate.

Measles can cause encephalitis, permanent brain damage, and death—especially in young kids. The idea that we should just “ride it out” like it’s 1962 again is not just ignorant, it’s dangerous.

Vaccines are why we haven’t seen mass death from measles in decades. But immunity is a collective effort. When vaccination rates drop, herd protection breaks—and the virus comes roaring back.

This isn’t some pharma conspiracy. It’s epidemiology 101. Vaccines work. Full stop.

Don’t let anti-science fear-mongering masquerade as “critical thinking.” And don’t wait for more kids to die before we take this seriously again.

You want freedom? Start by freeing yourself from disinformation.