9 minutes ago, novacova said:

Japan did not bomb Pearl Harbor the other day. That happened decades ago.

In human time, it was a fair while ago. But in earth time, it was a fraction of a second ago.

 

Based on the clock being only 24 hours. Humans have only been on the earth for 7 seconds.

3 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

There are a couple of really informed AN members who have the answers.

 

If one was to travel in an airplane, or a fast boat, how long would it be til the plane was upside down, or the people fell out of the boat? Also why can't a plane fly around the globe; non stop.

 

There is also the travel between the southern parts. Say Cape Town to the south of Chile or Argentina.

 

Also the secrecy of the South Pole.

 

 

Informed about what? 

 

That Pearl Harbor is to far away on a flat Earth model? That there is edges on a flat Earth model, or that we actually fly or sail around the globe? 

1 minute ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Based on the clock being only 24 hours. Humans have only been on the earth for 7 seconds.

Mathematically incorrect.

Just now, novacova said:

Mathematically incorrect.

Go on Boss; what it the correct number of seconds?

Braking news Neil deGrasse admits the earth is flat

 

 

 

28 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

If one was to travel in an airplane, or a fast boat, how long would it be til the plane was upside down, or the people fell out of the boat? Also why can't a plane fly around the globe; non stop.

 

Exactly.

When you start trying to visualize the "globe earth", it becomes absurd.

Ships sailing across the ocean upside down. 

It's the biggest Joke of the Millenia.

It's cuckoo for cocoa puffs that the earth is a spinning globe.

 

34 minutes ago, novacova said:

Mathematically incorrect.

How long have humans been on earth if the earth time in history is 24 hours?

 

If Earth's 4.5 billion-year history was a 

24-hour clock, modern humans (Homo sapiens) would appear in the final seconds, around 11:59:59 PM, meaning all of human existence and recorded history fits into the last blink of the day, a truly minuscule fraction of Earth's long story

 

have humans only been on earth one sec on a 24 hours scale?

 

Yes, that perspective is essentially correct: if the entire 4.5-billion-year history of Earth were condensed into a 24-hour day, 

modern humans would have been around for only about 1 to 3 seconds before the present moment (midnight). 

Here is a simplified timeline of Earth's history on a 24-hour scale:

• Midnight (12:00 a.m.): Earth forms.
• Around 4:00 a.m.: The first simple single-celled life appears.
• Around 8:30 p.m.: Complex multicellular life begins to flourish.
• Around 10:45 p.m.: Dinosaurs appear and roam the Earth for about an hour.
• Around 11:41 p.m.: An asteroid impact causes the extinction of the dinosaurs.
• Around 11:58 p.m.: Early humans appear.
• The last few seconds: Modern humans (Homo sapiens, who emerged about 300,000 years ago) arrive. All of recorded human history (from the invention of writing to the present day) takes place in the last fraction of a second. 

This analogy effectively illustrates the immense age of the Earth and the very short amount of time humanity has existed in a geological context

10 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

How long have humans been on earth if the earth time in history is 24 hours?

 

If Earth's 4.5 billion-year history was a 

24-hour clock, modern humans (Homo sapiens) would appear in the final seconds, around 11:59:59 PM, meaning all of human existence and recorded history fits into the last blink of the day, a truly minuscule fraction of Earth's long story

 

 

have humans only been on earth one sec on a 24 hours scale?

 

Yes, that perspective is essentially correct: if the entire 4.5-billion-year history of Earth were condensed into a 24-hour day, 

modern humans would have been around for only about 1 to 3 seconds before the present moment (midnight). 

Here is a simplified timeline of Earth's history on a 24-hour scale:

• Midnight (12:00 a.m.): Earth forms.
• Around 4:00 a.m.: The first simple single-celled life appears.
• Around 8:30 p.m.: Complex multicellular life begins to flourish.
• Around 10:45 p.m.: Dinosaurs appear and roam the Earth for about an hour.
• Around 11:41 p.m.: An asteroid impact causes the extinction of the dinosaurs.
• Around 11:58 p.m.: Early humans appear.
• The last few seconds: Modern humans (Homo sapiens, who emerged about 300,000 years ago) arrive. All of recorded human history (from the invention of writing to the present day) takes place in the last fraction of a second. 

This analogy effectively illustrates the immense age of the Earth and the very short amount of time humanity has existed in a geological context

Ah yes! That's all well and good. But what if time started at Mid-day?

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

Ah yes! That's all well and good. But what if time started at Mid-day?

Well you are the intelligent here, so you might have the answer to that one 😉 

34 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Exactly.

When you start trying to visualize the "globe earth", it becomes absurd.

Ships sailing across the ocean upside down. 

It's the biggest Joke of the Millenia.

It's cuckoo for cocoa puffs that the earth is a spinning globe.

 

If the earth was spinning at 1000 mph, wouldn't we get giddy? Of course we would.

 

And notice also, how the Americans always put their 100 metre running tracks** going from east to west. And never south to north. Why? Because running from east to west gives a faster time.

 

** --- That don't apply to swimming pools. Even in Australia.

4 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Well you are the intelligent here, so you might have the answer to that one 😉 

Dodge! Dodge. Dodge.

 

I can easily. Humans would arrive just before mid-day.

8 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

And notice also, how the Americans always put their 100 metre running tracks** going from east to west. And never south to north. Why? Because running from east to west gives a faster time.

why faster running time?

Just now, save the frogs said:

why faster running time?

Because, if the earth is spinning, and you run against the spin, you will get there - that is the finishing line - more quicker. Run the other way and it will take longer.

 

Of course, that assumes a spherical earth.

 

On a flat earth model it shouldn't make much difference.

Just now, Stiddle Mump said:

Because, if the earth is spinning, and you run against the spin, you will get there - that is the finishing line - more quicker. Run the other way and it will take longer.

 

Of course, that assumes a spherical earth.

 

On a flat earth model it shouldn't make much difference.

Have you ever tried to run on a cruise ship ?

34 minutes ago, Hummin said:

 

How long have humans been on earth if the earth time in history is 24 hours?

 

If Earth's 4.5 billion-year history was a 

24-hour clock, modern humans (Homo sapiens) would appear in the final seconds, around 11:59:59 PM, meaning all of human existence and recorded history fits into the last blink of the day, a truly minuscule fraction of Earth's long story

 

 

have humans only been on earth one sec on a 24 hours scale?

 

Yes, that perspective is essentially correct: if the entire 4.5-billion-year history of Earth were condensed into a 24-hour day, 

modern humans would have been around for only about 1 to 3 seconds before the present moment (midnight). 

Here is a simplified timeline of Earth's history on a 24-hour scale:

• Midnight (12:00 a.m.): Earth forms.
• Around 4:00 a.m.: The first simple single-celled life appears.
• Around 8:30 p.m.: Complex multicellular life begins to flourish.
• Around 10:45 p.m.: Dinosaurs appear and roam the Earth for about an hour.
• Around 11:41 p.m.: An asteroid impact causes the extinction of the dinosaurs.
• Around 11:58 p.m.: Early humans appear.
• The last few seconds: Modern humans (Homo sapiens, who emerged about 300,000 years ago) arrive. All of recorded human history (from the invention of writing to the present day) takes place in the last fraction of a second. 

This analogy effectively illustrates the immense age of the Earth and the very short amount of time humanity has existed in a geological context

That isn’t math, it’s philosophy of which is mostly nonsense delusions.

5 minutes ago, novacova said:

That isn’t math, it’s philosophy of which is mostly nonsense delusions.

Okay, and can you tell me why? Mathematics is spot on as it can be if the globe isnt just a simulation, which we can not dismiss. 

13 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Have you ever tried to run on a cruise ship ?

I have indeed Sir.

 

Just as an illustration. If the earth is spinning at 1000 mph, from west to east, and one was to run from west to east on a 100 metre track at 1000 mph. The runner would never finish. Bit like the snail who can't ever get out of the well.

 

Just goes to show what a nonsense it all is.

I've come to the obvious conclusion that there is more knowledge being put out on AN, than the whole of 'X' and NASA combined.

 

Where do we go from here? Well! I'm off to the farm for a couple of hours. But for those still believing nonsense, take a chill pill (selenium?), put some Rosa Ponselle on the turntable, make a long mushroom drink, listen and reflect.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Okay, and can you tell me why? Mathematics is spot on as it can be if the globe isnt just a simulation, which we can not dismiss. 

Your math is incorrect. Earth is ~4.54 billions years old, humans ~300000 years in existence which is ~0.006522% of time. In terms of a 60 minute clock, that would be ~0.235 seconds, a mere fraction of your proposed philosophy. Speaking of fractions of existence, the universe is ~13.787 billion years of age of which humans have been in existence for ~0.002176% of that time which would be on the clock you Simply like to use, that would be ~0.00130557 seconds that humans have been in existence since the beginning, which is what really matters. Using a 60 minute clock is a simple way of illustrating it, though it lacks concept of real understanding. Layman should be using term such as a minuscule, a tiny fraction or a mere flash of a minor moment in time.

With many people, once they got attached to a theory, it was hard to get them detached. They’d screen out unhelpful facts, invent favorable ones, and ignore contradictions in their own claims. Look at those Sandy Hook, multiple fraud convictions, and Jan. 6th truthers, babbling about false flags and crisis actors and all the rest. When people were motivated enough to believe something, they were going to believe it no matter what. There was no such thing as a bridge too far.

 

16 minutes ago, novacova said:

Your math is incorrect. Earth is ~4.54 billions years old, humans ~300000 years in existence which is ~0.006522% of time. In terms of a 60 minute clock, that would be ~0.235 seconds, a mere fraction of your proposed philosophy. Speaking of fractions of existence, the universe is ~13.787 billion years of age of which humans have been in existence for ~0.002176% of that time which would be on the clock you Simply like to use, that would be ~0.00130557 seconds that humans have been in existence since the beginning, which is what really matters. Using a 60 minute clock is a simple way of illustrating it, though it lacks concept of real understanding. Layman should be using term such as a minuscule, a tiny fraction or a mere flash of a minor moment in time.

I question your timeline because I believe that there were many species that were considered human but not homo sapiens. 

 

Those on the list include Homo sapiens, Neanderthals, the Indonesian hobbit-size people, Homo erectus and Homo naledi. The list also includes other species that existed closer in time to the common ancestor of humans and chimps, and so look more like chimpanzees than modern-day humans. Despite their looks, these species are still known as early humans. "You can't go back 5 million years and expect them to look like us," Stewart said.

 

https://share.google/53EKkB9eNjYvTzg27

 

Ultimately, Homo sapiens evolution begins alongside the origin of the chimpanzee family.

Genetic evidence shows that the last common ancestor of all humans and modern chimpanzees is thought to have lived between six million and nine million years ago in Africa. A lack of fossil evidence, however, means very little is known about what this ancient Homo sapiens ancestor looked like. This ancestor gave rise to a number of descendants, which may have included Sahelanthropus, Orrorin and Ardipithecus. Only a few fossils of these species have been found, meaning that it’s currently impossible to tell which of them, if any, might be an ancestor of Homo sapiens.

By about four million years ago, these early human relatives, also called hominins, eventually gave rise to Australopithecus. Unlike their predecessors, these animals could regularly walk upright, but probably not for long distances. It’s thought that they eventually gave rise to our genus, Homo, around 2.5 million years ago.

One of the longest lived members of this group is Homo erectus, an ancient human species that existed for more than 1.5 million years. It’s generally agreed that Homo erectus can be described as an ancestor of modern humans, though exactly how it’s related is strongly debated.

 

While we don’t currently know what the last common ancestor of Homo sapiens and the Neanderthals is, we have some clues about when it lived. Genetic evidence, for example, suggests that it lived 500,000–700,000 years ago. However, research comparing teeth suggests our two species began to split at least 800,000 years ago opens in a new window.

 

https://share.google/mXbUIvKtpBFwyVo4I

 

 

16 minutes ago, novacova said:

Your math is incorrect. Earth is ~4.54 billions years old, humans ~300000 years in existence which is ~0.006522% of time. In terms of a 60 minute clock, that would be ~0.235 seconds, a mere fraction of your proposed philosophy. Speaking of fractions of existence, the universe is ~13.787 billion years of age of which humans have been in existence for ~0.002176% of that time which would be on the clock you Simply like to use, that would be ~0.00130557 seconds that humans have been in existence since the beginning, which is what really matters. Using a 60 minute clock is a simple way of illustrating it, though it lacks concept of real understanding. Layman should be using term such as a minuscule, a tiny fraction or a mere flash of a minor moment in time.

Okay, we are in that level 🤔😆

 

I'm not going to bother to research your findings. 

2 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

With many people, once they got attached to a theory, it was hard to get them detached. They’d screen out unhelpful facts, invent favorable ones, and ignore contradictions in their own claims. Look at those Sandy Hook, multiple fraud convictions, and Jan. 6th truthers, babbling about false flags and crisis actors and all the rest. When people were motivated enough to believe something, they were going to believe it no matter what. There was no such thing as a bridge too far.

 

Indeed! Which brings us back to the moon landings.

 

They done great getting there. Even greater getting back; alive.

53 minutes ago, Stiddle Mump said:

Indeed! Which brings us back to the moon landings.

 

 

Bart Kay profile (not moon landings, nutrition field).

 

How much of what is taught in higher level institutions is "falsehood".

But you're trapped there once you have a degree. 

 

Before you try and use a flat earth explanation for this, try applying Occam's razor to this...and all the other crap you believe......

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15Rpt9emhyX/

 

 

On 12/10/2025 at 3:51 PM, save the frogs said:

 

Bart Kay profile (not moon landings, nutrition field).

 

How much of what is taught in higher level institutions is "falsehood".

But you're trapped there once you have a degree. 

 

Not just in high level teaching Frogs buddy. Starts at junior school IMO.

 

Just ask a random person the question: 'where does money come from?'

 

 

49 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Before you try and use a flat earth explanation for this, try applying Occam's razor to this...and all the other crap you believe......

https://www.facebook.com/share/r/15Rpt9emhyX/

 

 

 

Occam's razor: elements moving over a still plane.

problem is with no education, you don't realise how little you can think.

24 minutes ago, kwilco said:

problem is with no education, you don't realise how little you can think.

 

"as we learn more, we discover the immense vastness of the unknown, leading to intellectual humility and a lifelong curiosity, recognizing that knowledge isn't a destination but an infinite journey"

 

AE

32 minutes ago, kwilco said:

problem is with no education, you don't realise how little you can think.

 

So tell us a bit more about your education, kwilco, in what fields do you excel?