ALL VACCINES WILL KILL YOU - The evidence is overwhelming

[johng]

1 hour ago, Peterw42 said:

The whole idea of a forum, and what makes it work, is solid, reliable and "TRUE" information.

 

Isn't' the whole idea of a forum  to allow a space for free exchange of ideas and opinions ?

[newbee2022]

On 4/25/2025 at 6:59 AM, Red Phoenix said:

Okay, no more pussyfooting, here the blunt in-your-face truth supported by overwhelming factual evidence:

ALL VACCINES WILL KILL YOU

 

 

…not only is there not a single vaccine that is safe, effective, or in any way necessary, but they will all harm you in varying degrees over time; to wit:

 

 

And autism is a particularly devastating vaccine adverse event that drains entire families of resources and generational wealth. 

 

 

What are the odds of triplets all coming down with autism at the same exact time right after getting their poison childhood vaccines?

 

If Bobby Kennedy and his HHS do not commence the process of stripping all of the liability protections for the entire vaccine schedule by September, then we may need to rethink the entire MAHA movement. In the meantime, Kennedy needs all of our support as he not so much investigates the cause of autism — he full well knows already — but finally publicly admits that which has been so painfully obvious to anyone paying even a scintilla of attention…

 

> The above is a shortened intro-text by 

to the article by Jeffrey A. Tucker from the Brownstone Institute on Vaccines and autism (to be rendered in another thread).  

 

Citation:

https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/all-vaccines-will-kill-you-vaccines

https://vaccinechoicecanada.com/

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com

https://chd.tv/

 

 

= = =

 

What a nonsense. 

[Peterw42]

39 minutes ago, johng said:

 

Isn't' the whole idea of a forum  to allow a space for free exchange of ideas and opinions ?

Yes, a forum is to exchange ideas and opinions, not post absolute bullsh*t and say its true.

[johng]

12 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

absolute bullsh*t and say its true.

 

it is up to each and every one of us to decide for ourself  what is  manure and what is true...the best way to decide for yourself is to listen to diverse views and opinions,  you can't make that decision if only "one side of a story" is told..often when hearing "the other side of the story"  everything makes much more sense  don't you find ?

[KhunLA]

Using a little common sense helps ...

... polio vaccine for a disease basically eradicated from 1st world countries

... chicken pox, measles & mumps vaccine that doesn't work, as everyone still gets

... why would a newborn need 3 Hep B vaccine shots, at birth, 2 months later, than again before 18 months.   Hep B .. WTF

 

[rumak]

1 hour ago, johng said:

 

it is up to each and every one of us to decide for ourself  what is  manure and what is true...the best way to decide for yourself is to listen to diverse views and opinions,  you can't make that decision if only "one side of a story" is told..often when hearing "the other side of the story"  everything makes much more sense  don't you find ?

 

One would hope 🤪   There are quite a few types of BIAS that form in each individual as they pass through this thing called life.   This one is a real b*tch when it comes to making objective decisions on what is "true"  or not :

.Confirmation bias is the tendency to search for, interpret, focus on and remember information in a way that confirms one's preconceptions.

 

Knowing everything about everything just ain't possible .  Forum people using google to make their assertions about truth on complex subjects is just a joke.

I try to focus on those I am interested in , especially ones i have a good deal of experience with . Then, I read different points of view, from different KINDS of sources,  and spend some time trying to figure out what I think is most plausable.    That said..... i see this forum as kind of a make-up for me having missed out on kindergarten .    

 

i like playing , observing,  joking , and learning a thing or two.  Fighting ?....... only if you try to take my ball away or force me to do something I don't want to !🙂

 

[Peterw42]

1 hour ago, johng said:

 

it is up to each and every one of us to decide for ourself  what is  manure and what is true...the best way to decide for yourself is to listen to diverse views and opinions,  you can't make that decision if only "one side of a story" is told..often when hearing "the other side of the story"  everything makes much more sense  don't you find ?

There is no "other side to the story" ! Once something has been debunked, proven false etc, there is no decision to be made. All of this antivax rubbish has been debunked a hundred times.

There is no opinion, only true or false. Calling a falsehood an opinion doesn't make it true.

 

[johng]

2 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

All of this antivax rubbish has been debunked a hundred times.

There is no opinion, only true or false. Calling a falsehood an opinion doesn't make it true.

 

Well seems you have made up your mind..   good luck..

[rumak]

10 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

There is no "other side to the story" ! Once something has been debunked, proven false etc, there is no decision to be made. All of this antivax rubbish has been debunked a hundred times.

There is no opinion, only true or false. Calling a falsehood an opinion doesn't make it true.

 

 

A new Pierre reviewed study funded by Mainstreet Media stalwarts has taken the lonely people of the world by storm !!   A huge trial group of stay at home internet geeks was told NOT to masturbate for thirty days .  The results were incredible , with 87% of the subjects claiming that their eyesight had improved dramatacilly . Twelve percent could not be reached to get results,  and were suspected of sneaking out to look for "relief" .   One person who withdrew from the study went blind .   

The good news from this study is that a new drug is in the pipeline that will help those suffering from ejaculatory withdrawel symptoms. 

[Lorry]

13 hours ago, kwilco said:

Anti-vaxxers are a walking monument to the failure of basic education — loud, proud, and dangerously deluded. They masquerade as “free thinkers” while parroting the same tired nonsense churned out by grifters and crackpot blogs. They reject modern medicine until they’re gasping for air in an ICU, begging for treatments developed by the same science they spent years mocking. Their arrogance isn’t just ignorant — it’s lethal. They endanger babies, cancer patients, the elderly — anyone who can’t get vaccinated. They’re not rebels. They’re parasites, living off the immunity of others while sneering at the very systems keeping them alive.

Thanks for stating this so clearly.

Yes, parasites.

[johng]

30 minutes ago, Peterw42 said:

Once something has been debunked, proven false etc, there is no decision to be made.

 

Just a quick tangential question    do you think that 3 steel framed buildings  collapsed into their own foot print on the same day   for the reasons  sighted in the "official" reports  ? 

Bearing in mind that no other steel framed buildings before or after have exhibited this behaviour.

[johng]

3 minutes ago, Lorry said:

Yes, parasites.

Do you need some Ivermectin ??

[johng]

59 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

why would a newborn need 3 Hep B vaccine shots, at birth, 2 months later, than again before 18 months.   Hep B .. WTF

 

In case they come into contact with the Epstein client list..hence the non release of said list 

[rattlesnake]

13 hours ago, kwilco said:

Anti-vaxxers are a walking monument to the failure of basic education — loud, proud, and dangerously deluded. They masquerade as “free thinkers” while parroting the same tired nonsense churned out by grifters and crackpot blogs. They reject modern medicine until they’re gasping for air in an ICU, begging for treatments developed by the same science they spent years mocking. Their arrogance isn’t just ignorant — it’s lethal. They endanger babies, cancer patients, the elderly — anyone who can’t get vaccinated. They’re not rebels. They’re parasites, living off the immunity of others while sneering at the very systems keeping them alive.

 

Ideally we wouldn't exist, right?

 

[rattlesnake]

7 hours ago, rumak said:

 

i keep telling you mi amigo :   " don't waste your time " .  🙉

 

Best advice in this thread so far! 

[rattlesnake]

22 minutes ago, Lorry said:

Thanks for stating this so clearly.

Yes, parasites.

 

It's a good thing Operation Warp Speed prevented the CDC from opening the 'quarantine camps' which were already built. The Good Germans such as yourself would've cheered with foam at the mouth.

 

 

 

[freedomnow]

Such skewed BS - you only feed the masked one on this forum with crackpot assertions.

I've had pleny of vaccines and still here.

[newbee2022]

4 hours ago, johng said:

 

it is up to each and every one of us to decide for ourself  what is  manure and what is true...the best way to decide for yourself is to listen to diverse views and opinions,  you can't make that decision if only "one side of a story" is told..often when hearing "the other side of the story"  everything makes much more sense  don't you find ?

It's not about stories but science. If you rather believe stories told in Internet instead trust your GP then better wear an Alu-hat.

[newbee2022]

4 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Yes, a forum is to exchange ideas and opinions, not post absolute bullsh*t and say its true.

Well, but that's it what happens

[Sandboxer]

OP once again encourages my standard operating procedure of social distancing myself from retarded people.

[kwilco]

Vaccines have taken out history’s biggest killers, saved millions of lives, and reduced human suffering on a scale unmatched by almost any other health intervention.
Vaccines have had a massive global impact, eliminating or drastically reducing the spread of many deadly diseases
Here's some examples - Smallpox was eradicated in 1980. One of the deadliest diseases in human history, it killed 300–500 million in the 20th century alone. . How many pot-marked faces do you see these days?
We forget or are simply unaware that these other diseases that are no longer perceived as a threat have been totally eliminated in some regions but not globally…
For instance, remember polio? No you don’t because it has almost been eradicated worldwide; a 99.9% reduction since 1988 thanks to global vaccination efforts. It still exists in parts of Afghanistan and Pakistan. In 1950s Britian , 8,000 people were paralysed by polio each year in the UK about 10% of those died. Remember Ian Drury? – He contracted it in a swimming pool. He chose to wear a leg brace instead of having his leg amputated
Measles has been virtually eliminated in many countries, but resurges where vaccination rates drop. America now leads the world with the ignominious reputation of the strongest resurgence, where in poorer areas, anti-vax misinformation has thrived. Many don’t realise that measles can be fatal….Before the vaccine there were  2.6 million deaths/year globally.
Rubella (German Measles) has been eliminated in the U.S., Canada, and much of Europe.
Vaccine prevented thousands of children from being born with congenital rubella syndrome. Back in the 19650s and 1960s women and girls were terrified of getting “German Measles”.
Diphtheria is now extremely rare in vaccinated countries; people don’t even know what it is.
Once a major child killer, it’s deadly throat infection with 5–10% fatality rate.
Tetanus is nearly eliminated in high-income countries. Still a risk where birth hygiene is poor and vaccines aren't widespread. Even anti-vaxxers bitten by dogs are happy to receive this jab!
Then there is Hib flu.  It was once a leading cause of childhood meningitis and pneumonia. Now rare wherever the Hib vaccine is used.

Other diseases that have been dramatically reduced include Mumps, and Whooping cough. Big outbreaks used to be common. Now typically milder and less frequent thanks to the MMR vaccine. Have you still got both your testes?
Pertussis (Whooping Cough) dramatically has been cut dramatically, though it still flares up occasionally due to waning immunity. – again the susceptibility of the gullible to antivax propaganda. – They CAUSE illnesses and diseases by their irresponsible claptrap.

Hepatitis B is very common amongst expats in Thailand but global vaccination is reducing liver cancer and chronic hepatitis B infections, including in newborn babies – you can pass on Hep to your wife but also directly to unborn children.

HPV -  the Papillomavirus Vaccine prevents multiple cancers, including cervical.
Countries with strong HPV vaccine programs are seeing cancer cases drop in young people.
Rotavirus - A leading cause of infant diarrhoea-related deaths — vaccines have slashed hospitalizations worldwide. There are possible outbreaks in Thailand right now – tourists put it down to a bad case of “food poisoning” – which it kind of is as it is spread through contaminated food and water.
Contrary to what the “rabid right” would have you  believe COVID-19 Vaccines have saved millions of lives and reduced hospitalizations and deaths dramatically. Estimates suggest over 20 million lives saved in 2021 alone

Before vaccines, humanity lived in fear of diseases that crippled, blinded, and killed without warning. Thanks to vaccines, smallpox is gone, polio is nearly extinct, and countless lives have been spared. Rejecting vaccines today is not scepticism—it's forgetting the cost of forgetting.
 

[kwilco]

2 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Ideally we wouldn't exist, right?

 

just follow Darwin and Wallace's theories and we'll be fine - except your nonsensense kills others too.

[kwilco]

It seems that some anti-vaxxers don't even know the difference between a bacteria and a virus - or their "A" from a hole in the ground?

[rattlesnake]

14 minutes ago, kwilco said:

just follow Darwin and Wallace's theories and we'll be fine - except your nonsensense kills others too.

 

Darwin doubted his own theory, as did Copernicus and Newton.

[johng]

2 minutes ago, kwilco said:

It seems that some anti-vaxxers don't even know the difference between a bacteria and a virus

Bacteria have been shown to exist  you can see them under a microscope they can be cultured and grown ...viruses.. well maybe not, if you go back and look at the original "research"   they took spinal tissue from "infected" patients and injected it into monkey brains  who then subsequently died....therefore proving that the "virus" causes death ?

There is more but you can think about it a bit and find some debunking material from Google if you want.

[nick supreme]

54 minutes ago, Sandboxer said:

OP once again encourages my standard operating procedure of social distancing myself from retarded people.

The graphic is racist; it implies that white and black people should be separated.

[Will B Good]

6 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Yes, a forum is to exchange ideas and opinions, not post absolute bullsh*t and say its true.

Beat me to it....damn.

[kwilco]

Do Anti-vaxxers realise they are widely considered ‘selfish’ and ‘stupid’ so why do they continue.. It seems many anti-vaxxers are aware that they're perceived as selfish or ignorant by the broader public, especially by the scientific and medical communities. But they still persist despite that. stigma involves a mix of psychology, identity, and distrust...

 

Mostly their distrust is a predictable collection of cliches - they don't trust governments, pharmaceutical companies, or mainstream media. Of course being labelled “stupid” by those institutions only reinforces their belief that they’re on the right side—fighting corruption or “hidden agendas” – (another favourite cliché).

This distrust overlooks the defining difference between science and pseudo-science One of the most powerful and misunderstood differences between science and pseudoscience is that science evolves when new evidence emerges. Pseudoscience doubles down.
Real science expects to be questioned. In fact, it’s built on the idea that knowledge should be tested, challenged, and updated. That’s not weakness — it’s the reason we have antibiotics, air travel, smartphones, and safe drinking water. By contrast, pseudoscientific beliefs tend to be rigid. They don’t shift when confronted with better data; instead, they often treat counter-evidence as a threat or conspiracy. That’s not curiosity — that’s ideology.

Then there is the craving for identity, those  beliefs  become part of a person’s identity. They're reinforced by others in online communities that reward contrarian views and validate misplaced scepticism. Cognitive dissonance rules  - changing their mind can feel like betraying that identity or "tribe."

 

Some are also driven by genuine fear. Side effects,  harming  children, or fear of losing bodily autonomy. Rejecting vaccines gives them a sense of control in a world they perceive as risky or manipulated.

Then they spend hours cherry-picking resources to reinforce their confirmation bias. They seek out and trust sources that confirm what they already believe. Scientific evidence that contradicts them is often dismissed as propaganda.(Cognitive dissonance)

 

Basically, social stigma won’t shift their views. For many, being ostracized confirms their beliefs rather than challenges them. Appeals to their sense of martyrdom….
 

[kwilco]

9 hours ago, Peterw42 said:

Yes, a forum is to exchange ideas and opinions, not post absolute bullsh*t and say its true.

Interesting thing about "opinions".....

Are you “entitled to you own opinion”?
When people use this cliché “Well, you’re entitled to your own opinion” – basically no, there’s no reason why. THey usually don't even know what an opinion is....
 you are entitled to your own opinion" why is this so often nonsense as the person is not actually expressing an opinion but just baseless rubbish
— the phrase "you're entitled to your own opinion" often gets thrown around as if it ends an argument or shields someone from criticism. But it's kind of a rhetorical smoke bomb, isn't it?
Firstly is it actually an opinion? Just because someone believes something doesn't mean it's valid. An opinion needs to be based on some degree of reasoning, evidence, or lived experience. If someone says, "The Earth is flat" — that’s not an opinion, that’s a demonstrably false statement. Dressing it up as “just my opinion” doesn’t protect it from being wrong.
Saying "Entitled" doesn't mean immune. Everyone can hold their own beliefs, but that doesn’t mean those beliefs are beyond challenge. Freedom of speech doesn’t equal freedom from criticism or even derision. You’re entitled to say what you want, but remember others also are equally entitled to call it nonsense.
People use this cliche  to avoid accountability; to shut down uncomfortable conversations. E.g – 
"I think vaccines are a government conspiracy."
"That’s not true, there’s overwhelming evidence otherwise."
"Well, I’m entitled to my opinion."
Hardly! In This case, it turns a factual dispute into a matter of personal taste, like ice cream flavours, but it isn’t it’s a matter of real evidence.
 It’s a lazy escape hatch, people retreat from the conversation without actually defending their point or engaging meaningfully. Like saying, “I just feel that way” to dodge the hard work of thinking critically….or worse still cherry picking and concocting false evidence
 

[kwilco]

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