1 hour ago, johng said:

Rubbish  they knew at the time but lied..yes down right lied.

Who are 'they" and who are the ones who "didn't lie"? - follow thiese simple rules

 

Tested repeatedly, 
•    Supported by data, 
•    Accepted by experts, 
•    and most importantly Refined over time

 

 

A picture says a thousand words......

 

23 hours ago, kwilco said:

Tested repeatedly, 
•    Supported by data, 
•    Accepted by experts, 
•    and most importantly Refined over time

 

Incorrect. Listen to top virologist Dr. Redfield:

 

 

46:40:
"I don't think the vaccine industry should have immunity. I think they should have responsibility like any other manufacturer of any other product for their product and I'm particularly concerned about this now because, you know, my clinical practice right now which I'm still in two half days a week, is largely Covid and Long Covid, but among my, quote, "Long Covid" patients are people that don't have long covid but they have mRNA vaccine injury, right, and there's not a clear path for them to have their injury recognized…"

 

Now put this into perspective with what he stated during a Senate hearing last year: he does not administer the mRNA shots in his own practice because he believes the Spike proteins they contain are “toxic to the body” and "the mRA was persisting much longer than it should" in some patients. He confirmed it crosses the blood-brain barrier and that the jabs don't prevent infection and have side effects which were hidden by the authorities.

 

https://rumble.com/v56ws2r-sen.-ron-johnson-with-cdc-former-cdc-director-dr.-robert-redfield.html

On 5/14/2025 at 3:03 AM, rattlesnake said:

 

Heavily.

 

This is a long,long read....... but going to near the end is where there is a pretty good "explanation"  of why RFK  has not "just flat out cancelled" the harmful vaxxes .(Banning The COVID Vaccines)

 

Though my heart wants immediate revenge against all who participated in the covid scam...... I do understand what real change entails .   Unfortunately,,, a slow and tedious process.    

Putting the link here,  as you can get it to others that might not be looking in to this thread .  ( remember,  can save time by going to the segment i mention.... though the rest is interesting as well )    

 

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/building-coalitions-and-overcoming

May 16, 2025, 8:08 PM (23 hours ago)

On 5/17/2025 at 3:18 PM, rumak said:

 

This is a long,long read....... but going to near the end is where there is a pretty good "explanation"  of why RFK  has not "just flat out cancelled" the harmful vaxxes .(Banning The COVID Vaccines)

 

Though my heart wants immediate revenge against all who participated in the covid scam...... I do understand what real change entails .   Unfortunately,,, a slow and tedious process.    

Putting the link here,  as you can get it to others that might not be looking in to this thread .  ( remember,  can save time by going to the segment i mention.... though the rest is interesting as well )    

 

https://www.midwesterndoctor.com/p/building-coalitions-and-overcoming

May 16, 2025, 8:08 PM (23 hours ago)

 

Thanks amigo, I only just read it now as I was very busy these past few days.

 

This is one of the best articles I have ever read – I must have nodded spontaneously about 15 times as I was reading.

 

Things are not going as quickly and straightforwardly as we would like them too… but they are going in the right direction nonetheless.

11 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Thanks amigo, I only just read it now as I was very busy these past few days.

 

This is one of the best articles I have ever read – I must have nodded spontaneously about 15 times as I was reading.

 

Things are not going as quickly and straightforwardly as we would like them too… but they are going in the right direction nonetheless.

 

Ah,  i thought you would like it , and glad a few others had a look at the very good article which contained a lot of good insights that rang bells in my head.

Of course.... rumak , not being an academic , usually has to get by with my blunt assessments such as :  this world is really fkd, ego rules the world,  almost everyone i meet is fat and stupid..... but desperately wants to tell me what diet i need to follow, ETC  555).

An interesting point he makes about how often like-minded people who enter a group often end up at odds with each other.   As a young entrepeneur some of my favorite years were mixing with an eclectic bunch of customers at my coffee shop.   I always enjoyed meeting different types ,  bound together by just a fondness for sharing ideas, stories,  and some humor of course.  

Nowadays....... conversations with our "peers"  are not so enjoyable .

especially if one starts out with ," hey, you didn't get that d....vax ,  did ya ? "

 

😆😆

 

 

 

On 5/14/2025 at 12:24 PM, bubblegum said:

guess is your freedom of opinion

not an opinion!

Just now, kwilco said:

not an opinion!

Yes it is, believe science or believe your quarks 

14 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

Yes it is, believe science or believe your quarks 

An opinion stops being an opinion when it's used to justify falsehoods without evidence — then it's just misinformation.

On 5/14/2025 at 10:37 PM, kwilco said:

 

 

A picture says a thousand words......

 

Just a theory!

Saying “I didn’t get vaccinated and I’m still alive” is like saying “I didn’t wear a seatbelt and didn’t crash.” It’s not proof the seatbelt isn’t useful—it just means you were fortunate.

 

 

24 minutes ago, kwilco said:

Just a theory!

Saying “I didn’t get vaccinated and I’m still alive” is like saying “I didn’t wear a seatbelt and didn’t crash.” It’s not proof the seatbelt isn’t useful—it just means you were fortunate.

 

 

 

What is the vaccination status of people currently hospitalised with Covid?

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

What is the vaccination status of people currently hospitalised with Covid?

Isn't it strange that we are not allowed (bad manners 🤫)

to ask that question now.

 

But they sure as hell wanted to know

If you were jabbed to get on a plane go to a concert, cinema, restaurant, work or even grandma's funeral just a few months ago.

 

Of course we can make a good guess as to why vaccination status is no longer  mentioned or even recorded.

40 minutes ago, johng said:

Isn't it strange that we are not allowed (bad manners 🤫)

to ask that question now.

 

But they sure as hell wanted to know

If you were jabbed to get on a plane go to a concert, cinema, restaurant, work or even grandma's funeral just a few months ago.

 

Of course we can make a good guess as to why vaccination status is no longer  mentioned or even recorded.

 

It's one of those (increasingly more frequent) impossible questions to answer. The holes and glaring contradictions in the official narrative are unsustainable, it's amusing to see.

 

Speaking of which, Del Bigtree made a great statement on the vindication of the unvaccinated. This video is 8 minutes long, but well worth watching, it's a good reminder of what we went through, and the BS which the pro-vaxxers pushed on us and condoned. No wonder they just want to "forget about it" now, I probably would to if I was that blatantly on the wrong side of history:

 

 

6 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

it's a good reminder of what we went through,

 

Thanks for that  I'll save it to my archive.

hopefully  future generations will look back at such scenes  and say

"never again"

 

 

On 5/15/2025 at 3:37 AM, kwilco said:

A picture says a thousand words......

 

How did the human race emerge, evolve, survive and prosper before

"the science"  was even thought about ?

The risk of death from the diseases which you show on your screenshot is very low THANKS TO MASS VACCINATION.

 

If it weren't for mass vaccination thoses diseases would decimate populations.

2 hours ago, johng said:

 

How did the human race emerge, evolve, survive and prosper before

"the science"  was even thought about ?

 

In short, we didn't. Let’s not pretend ignorance was the golden age of health. We also survived without antibiotics, clean water, or electricity. Doesn’t mean we should go back to dying at 40. Dying in childbirth, smallpox, and tooth infections Science didn’t invent disease—it gave us tools to fight it.

21 hours ago, johng said:

 

Thanks for that  I'll save it to my archive.

hopefully  future generations will look back at such scenes  and say

"never again"

 

 

 

Plus 1 .    We are the tough ones .  Health without "vax" damage will be our lifetime achievement award.  

 

19 hours ago, kwilco said:

 

In short, we didn't. Let’s not pretend ignorance was the golden age of health. We also survived without antibiotics, clean water, or electricity. Doesn’t mean we should go back to dying at 40. Dying in childbirth, smallpox, and tooth infections Science didn’t invent disease—it gave us tools to fight it.

Don't worry!

 

I got huge stockpile of medicine that cures everything 

 

 

26 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Don't worry!

 

Don't worry everyone who is not a "sheep" knows that ivermectin is a nobel prize winning medication that is actually "safe and effective" for humans and animals.

It is also well known that bleach kills virus'ssss...and that the Orange man didn't tell anyone to drink or inject it.

20 hours ago, kwilco said:

In short, we didn't

we didn't survive and thrive as a human race until "the science" magiced us out of a test tube ?  and what about all the other life on planet earth non existent before "the science" too ?

17 minutes ago, johng said:

we didn't survive and thrive as a human race until "the science" magiced us out of a test tube ?  and what about all the other life on planet earth non existent before "the science" too ?

Science didn’t invent life — it helped us understand it. We survived by chance and adaptation; we thrive today thanks to clean water, vaccines, surgery, and medicine — all products of science, not magic. - you may have noticed, there a quite a few humans about....

29 minutes ago, johng said:

we didn't survive and thrive as a human race until "the science" magiced us out of a test tube ?  and what about all the other life on planet earth non existent before "the science" too ?

Wow, you got it! Yes, humans survived before vaccines! Oh, wait, apart from all the ones who died from diseases that became preventable once vaccines were invented for them.

You really do have a very, erm, "basic" outlook on things. Did you really think that was a convincing argument - that because humans didn't go extinct before vaccines that we therefore don't need vaccines? Really??

 

On 5/15/2025 at 3:37 AM, kwilco said:

 

 

A picture says a thousand words......

 

 

On 5/15/2025 at 3:37 AM, kwilco said:

 

 

A picture says a thousand words......

 

 

10 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

You really do have a very, erm, "basic" outlook on things. Did you really think that was a convincing argument - that because humans didn't go extinct before vaccines that we therefore don't need vaccines? Really??

It was stated that you can't live without "the science" which is plainly wrong.

Does science make our lifes better in the most part yes.

We certainly don't need experimental,rushed ,novel ,mandatory concoctions forced upon us for a " virus"  with an IFR of less than 1%

20 minutes ago, johng said:

 

It was stated that you can't live without "the science" which is plainly wrong.

Does science make our lifes better in the most part yes.

We certainly don't need experimental,rushed ,novel ,mandatory concoctions forced upon us for a " virus"  with an IFR of less than 1%

"

How did the human race emerge, evolve, survive and prosper before

"the science"  was even thought about ?" - so what is your point? what exactly are you implying?

1 hour ago, kwilco said:

you may have noticed, there a quite a few humans about....

Some say there are too many....???

did the dinosaurs  die out due to "lack of science"

 

30 minutes ago, kwilco said:

so what is your point? what exactly are you implying?

 

I'm not implying anything just stating facts  life on earth has existed and flourished for millions of years without "the science"

 

Is it nice to have the science  yes 100%  we couldn't have this discourse without it.

 

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

You really do have a very, erm, "basic" outlook on things. Did you really think that was a convincing argument - that because humans didn't go extinct before vaccines that we therefore don't need vaccines? Really??

Did the dinosaurs need vaccines,sharks crocodiles all the other myriad life on earth that came before the humans ? ..we didn't go extinct  because  we evolved and adapted to our environment..."science" played no part in it.

That is not to say that science is bad or unwanted/useful  of course it is.

19 minutes ago, johng said:

Some say there are too many....???

did the dinosaurs  die out due to "lack of science"

 

 

I'm not implying anything just stating facts  life on earth has existed and flourished for millions of years without "the science"

 

Is it nice to have the science  yes 100%  we couldn't have this discourse without it.

 

Did the dinosaurs need vaccines,sharks crocodiles all the other myriad life on earth that came before the humans ? ..we didn't go extinct  because  we evolved and adapted to our environment..."science" played no part in it.

That is not to say that science is bad or unwanted/useful  of course it is.

Again your argument is "because humans didn't go extinct before vaccines, we therefore don't need vaccines". To Hell with the people who did die or will die of otherwise preventable diseases.

And because crocodiles are around and they didn't get vaccines then there's no need.

The vaccination theory has been ongoing since Edward Jenner began it in 1796, 229 years ago and counting. Intentionally injecting poison into the body in the name of health is quackery.  I think those running the show are using tough love on us hoping the punishment will awaken us to truth.

 

Look at the other theories of the industry such as turning little girls into boys, snuffing the life out of embryos, pushing pills with side effects, ineffective treatments, and paying outrageously expensive insurance that will be denied by the contractual fine print and you realize you are being tortured mentally, emotionally, financially, and healthwise.

 

It is nice to see those with critical thinking skills and discernment question the nonsense.  The big health breakthroughs occur upon throwing the baby out with the bath water and looking in a totally different direction for the answers to health and vitality.  Do you have what it takes to handle the truth?