Elderly Americans Face Crisis Amid Trump Immigration Crackdown

[Dan O]

53 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

Obama and Clinton didn't have activist lefty judges fighting them every step of the way.  Not because deporting them is (or was) wrong, but Orange Man Bad.  They won't let Trump succeed, no matter how much they have to damage the country to fight him.

 

 

Hahaha its interestIing how you trumpettes love to twist facts. Judges following the rule of law hasn't got anything to do with leftist or fighting against Trump, its called following the laws. They are a separate but equal branch of the government and intended as a check on the balance of power. They wouldnt have any comment or ruling if someone didn't file a lawsuit. Hey here's a thought, if Trump wasn't trying to overstep his authority with Exec Orders or ignoring a judges instructions he wouldnt be in court to start with. 

Your group is so sad that you cant accept reality and have to find someone to blame when you dont get your way. My 4 year old grandaught has better grasp of right and wrong than most of your cult.

[Jingthing]

2 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

If they are in the country without legal status, then they are not law abiding.

 

Just stop it. You know what I mean. Don't act so stupid. Being productive people regardless of their immigration status.

[Jingthing]

38 minutes ago, bkk6060 said:

Either be legal or kick them out makes sense for any country.

It doesn't make any sense at all for the USA which vitally NEEDS many millions of undocumented people to do jobs almost no citizens are willing to do. What actually makes sense is to offer such people are reasonable path towards citizenship as long as they remain law abiding.

Or it could be a more expanded and effective guest worker policy.

In any case to throw too many of these people out is totally insane.

[Jingthing]

1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

Legal immigrants.  Duh.

 

That would be fine if the fascist Trump regime was actually open to allowing needed numbers of people in legally. But they most certainly are not!

Again -- comprehensive immigration reform is the only actual solution.

But the republicans don't actually want to solve this.

They love having this endless issue to exploit.

[JonnyF]

5 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

Just stop it. You know what I mean. Don't act so stupid. Being productive people regardless of their immigration status.

 

There is nothing stupid about pointing out the facts.

 

People who illegally enter a country and then work without a visa/work permit are not law abiding. Quite the opposite in fact. They are breaking many fundamental laws.

[Jingthing]

2 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

There is nothing stupid about pointing out the facts.

 

People who illegally enter a country and then work without a visa/work permit are not law abiding. Quite the opposite in fact. They are breaking many fundamental laws.

You know what I mean. But you just act like you don't. That is super dumb. 

[Tug]

55 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

Guess you missed this FACT , and just his first 2 years ...

 

... "since President Biden took office; 1.7 million, the number of illegal migrants that Joe Biden released into American communities" ...

My guess is you are conflating asylum seekers ehh?that’s legal .there was legislation to address that issue with more border patrol more tec to indirect the smugglers and more judges/invistigators to speed up the backlog of cases .trump killed it because he needs the problem to titillate the rubes(republicans)Im sure this is affecting elder care in the states no doubt about it.personally I’m in awe and deep admiration of the way it’s handled here in Thailand,my wife’s (my) brother in law is sadly on his deathbed he is surrounded by loving relatives doting on him and supporting our sister in law it is the way it should be and a wonderful thing to behold,it is affecting me deeply in a good way in spite of losing my brother in law a good and decent man.

[JonnyF]

1 minute ago, Jingthing said:

You know what I mean. But you just act like you don't. That is super dumb. 

 

No, I really don't.

 

Do you mean you consider someone who breaks into a country illegally, stays illegally, works illegally and pays no tax is "law abiding"?

 

If so, would you apply this same logic to a foreigner working illegally without a visa in Thailand? Or is this one of those special classifcations that leftists have for minority illegals in the US?

[Jingthing]

16 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

No, I really don't.

 

Do you mean you consider someone who breaks into a country illegally, stays illegally, works illegally and pays no tax is "law abiding"?

 

If so, would you apply this same logic to a foreigner working illegally without a visa in Thailand? Or is this one of those special classifcations that leftists have for minority illegals in the US?

 

Just stop with the dumb act!

Thailand is NOT the USA.

Thailand needs foreign guest workers and makes it easy for them to work in Thailand legally in the millions.

Completely different national situations.

You get all anal about "law abiding" when you know perfectly well exactly what I mean -- their behavior while in the US REGARDLESS of their immigration situation.

I can't be bothered with your endless pointless dumb acting noise any further.
You act like a toddler who has no capability of getting any nuance. Not believable. 

 

[Tug]

7 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

 

Just stop with the dumb act!

Thailand is NOT the USA.

Thailand needs foreign guest workers and makes it easy for them to work in Thailand legally in the millions.

Completely different national situations.

You get all anal about "law abiding" when you know perfectly well exactly what I mean -- their behavior while in the US REGARDLESS of their immigration situation.

I can't be bothered with your endless pointless dumb acting noise any further.
You can like a toddler who has no cabability of getting any nuance. Not believable. 

 

He’s a troll he gets his jollies stirring up division and discontent kinda sad oh and many illegals do pay taxes it’s the under the table ones that don’t.

[JonnyF]

8 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

 

Just stop with the dumb act!

Thailand is NOT the USA.

Thailand needs foreign guest workers and makes it easy for them to work in Thailand legally in the millions.

Completely different national situations.

You get all anal about "law abiding" when you know perfectly well exactly what I mean -- their behavior while in the US REGARDLESS of their immigration situation.

I can't be bothered with your endless pointless dumb acting noise any further.
You can like a toddler who has no cabability of getting any nuance. Not believable. 

 

 

Your argument appears to be, "Well - if you ignore all the laws they are clearly breaking, then they are law abiding".

 

And you call ME "dumb"? 😆

 

[SunnyinBangrak]

17 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

Every action has its consequences, and the stupidest leaders either don't think about them in advance, or just don't care:

After 4 years of pumping out endless disinformation desperately trying to cover up and distract frim the lableak, you found a new outlet for pushing more nonsense? Do you never learn from having trusted dishonest sources? 

Please start thinking issues through for yourself and stop fearmongering.

[NoDisplayName]

17 hours ago, Jingthing said:

Comprehensive immigration reform.

Yes care workers make very low pay and there is always a large shortage of them.

It's beyond idiocy to deport law abiding ones.

Give them a path towards legal status.

So simple. So impossible for republicans. 

 

Sneak over border illegally ≠ law abiding.

Not same-same.

 

Shirley, you understand they are by definition criminals.

Do you want criminals giving granny a sponge bath?

Do you want criminals handling grampa's meds at the nursing home?

 

But to soothe your hurt feelzies, yes, Virginia, there is a path to legal status.

 

Self-deport, then attend nearest US embassy or consulate and apply for LEGAL visa to visit and/or work in the United States.

 

Gosh!  Who knew following the law and adhering to established immigration regulations would keep one LEGAL!

 

 

[jimmybcool]

I love the fear mongering that Trump (hoist the Nazi comparison flag) is deporting LEGAL immigrants.  Yet when asked there is never any evidence of that.  Or the fear mongering that crops won't be picked and elderly care will disappear.  Yet almost all of the immigrants in those industries are legally in the states and working on work visa programs that do exist.  And have for a long time.  Nothing has changed there and no effort to change those programs is being promoted by this administration. 

 

There is literally no difference in how Trump is handling deportations and how Obama/Clinton did.  The big difference was Biden allowing millions of un-vetted "false asylum claimants" to disappear into the US in his 4 years.  Now we are forced to find and deport those mistakes.

 

Stir in left wing media finding rare instances of legal mistakes deporting one gang banger and voila that is their argument Trump is worse than Pol Pot and Ghengis Khan rolled into one.

[blaze master]

12 hours ago, bubblegum said:

You seem to be throwing them out as well, along with US born citizens and loads of tourist.. Anyway good luck with that.

 

What loads of tourists are being thrown out ?  Loads infers a large number.