Crime British Tenant Trashes Pattaya Rental, Landlord Seeks Legal Action

[MangoKorat]

On 5/3/2025 at 11:59 PM, HappyExpat57 said:

Some landlords in the US are requiring references from previous landlords before they will take on a new renter.

 

As a landlord, I can tell you that is a complete waste of time.  I'd be happy to provide a reference for a problem tenant if it helped me get them out of my property.

[smew]

Go after the agent and agency, they get good commission for funding a tenant and it is their job to do a accurate due diligence on possible renters.

 

[Magictoad]

Why didn't the owner check on the property intermittently before things got so out of hand?

[smew]

19 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

 

As a landlord, I can tell you that is a complete waste of time.  I'd be happy to provide a reference for a problem tenant if it helped me get them out of my property.

So, yiu are just a guilty and a scam artist  for passing on a problematic renters onto someone else 

[Ray60]

I had one tenant who didn't pay rental in time, i told him to pay within 2 weeks or electricity and water will be cut off. He was not able to pay, so he vacated the house and I deducted all costs fm the 2 months deposit. In Thailand you have no problem to get rid of tenants not following the contract terms, in Europe it would be much more difficult. 

[ChipButty]

On 5/4/2025 at 5:37 AM, Celsius said:

Soon 6 months deposits 

From what I can see, be lucky to get a tenant soon, more and more condo's coming on the market, just in the area I live,  

[MangoKorat]

2 minutes ago, smew said:

So, yiu are just a guilty and a scam artist  for passing on a problematic renters onto someone else 

What would you do smart**s?

 

As it happens, I haven't done it but I would - most landlords I know do.

[Magictoad]

3 hours ago, NICKMONDO1 said:

the state of that property is nothing compared to how tenants left my property in the UK.  Its not just Thailand that has trouble with tenants, its everywhere.........which is why i sold up all my property and use it for living here.  So much easier, and zero stress.  If i rented out my house here, I would charge a very high rent, and want 3 month deposit and six months up front, with an inspection after 6 months........if tenants dont agree.........then they dont move in...simple

You need a good agent. That solves most, if not all problems.

[MangoKorat]

6 minutes ago, smew said:

Go after the agent and agency, they get good commission for funding a tenant and it is their job to do a accurate due diligence on possible renters.

 

Read the get out clauses.  If you get a bad tenant, its lose lose until you finally get them out.  In the UK you even have to continue carrying out repairs for tenants who are not paying their rent!

[ChipButty]

3 minutes ago, Magictoad said:

You need a good agent. That solves most, if not all problems.

Find a good agent in THAILAND? At least Dick Turpin wore a mask when he robbed people,

[ChaiyaTH]

Cry me a river why is this even news, I barely see a few K in damages of which most items could be gotten straight from homepro, including a new door for 1-2K baht. Then a proper cleaning and the place is already back to normal. I've seen way worse than this lol, most Thai people their house looks daily like this.

 

Regardless this should easily be covered by an already paid deposit too. That's where the 2 months are for, for idiots like this. She should be happy.

[Chongalulu]

On 5/4/2025 at 6:10 AM, stupidfarang said:

In the UK, when my daughter was at university, she shared a house with 4 other friends all uni students. All had to get credit checks, and all parents had to act as a guarantor for their child renting the house, so we as parents were legally liable to pay for damage or loss rent.

If they were at university they wouldn’t have been children (18 is adult) 

[Chongalulu]

On 5/4/2025 at 5:37 AM, Celsius said:

Soon 6 months deposits 

Apparently he’d left 6 months of "deposits " on the lounge floor 💩….

[Dexxter]

On 5/4/2025 at 8:59 AM, HappyExpat57 said:

Some landlords in the US are requiring references from previous landlords before they will take on a new renter.

 

I have two rental properties in Australia and my agents always do a thorough background check on potential tenants and requires references from previous rentals.

[Dexxter]

On 5/4/2025 at 5:46 PM, Photoguy21 said:

If you have not rented previously what is the situation then? Cant ever get to rent?

 

Good question. My agents never accept first time tenants in my properties. I expect the agents that do accept them will require some form of guarantor, perhaps the parents. A good credit history would also be helpful for first timers.

[ChrisKC]

55 minutes ago, MangoKorat said:

 

As a landlord, I can tell you that is a complete waste of time.  I'd be happy to provide a reference for a problem tenant if it helped me get them out of my property.

Many Landlords won't ask for a reference. And if one does, you are dishonest - thinking only of yourself. A fellow Landlord is lied to.  Admitting it here is showing you up!

[Andrew65]

On 5/3/2025 at 11:59 PM, HappyExpat57 said:

Some landlords in the US are requiring references from previous landlords before they will take on a new renter.

The same in the UK. When I returned to the UK from Thailand I had to pay 7 month's rent upfront too, twice. The process of getting somewhere to live in the UK is starting to be rather as it is when trying to get a job.

[cardinalblue]

Not paying rent the electric bill is bad behavior…but she is getting high for free…she says she is devastated…no, a family member killed in an auto accident that is devastating…..garbage does not equal damage  

 

place looks dirty but no examples of damage were given…why was that left out of story?

[Dexxter]

3 hours ago, ttk said:

Best anyone would ever get from me is “no comment”

 

A "no comment" would effectively be a negative review and my agents would not lease to that tenant. We usually have a dozen applicants to chose from and the best person gets the property.

[Dexxter]

49 minutes ago, ChipButty said:

From what I can see, be lucky to get a tenant soon, more and more condo's coming on the market, just in the area I live,  

 

After the recent earthquake our landlord gave us a 50% discount on our rent for the next 3 months so that we don't move out. Many tenants from our high rise building never returned after the earthquake and my Thai wife was also scared and wanted to leave. However, before the earthquake we were very lucky to find a vacancy in the building we are living in because it is (was) very popular. My wife has calmed down now, she decided it is too much effort to move so we are staying.

[Andrew65]

36 minutes ago, Chongalulu said:

If they were at university they wouldn’t have been children (18 is adult) 

Most students start university after their 18th birthday, as they are then legally able to enter into contracts with the university and other organizations like student finance. 

[ChaiyaTH]

40 minutes ago, Chongalulu said:

If they were at university they wouldn’t have been children (18 is adult) 

Thailand and many countries the real adult age is 20-21, parents can still be liable until that time for various things.

[ChaiyaTH]

The only thing i still try to figure out is what the heck he did with all those big black containers, they are way too big for a weed plant too lol

[ChaiyaTH]

On 5/5/2025 at 5:28 AM, jacko45k said:

Usually they come and take the meter away. Outstanding balance must be paid and a reconnection fee. If that was the case there would not really be unpaid bills....did the property owners perhaps cover it?

Easily takes 2-3 months before they actually cut you off, water much faster. Happened to me a few times while traveling.

[Dexxter]

46 minutes ago, Chongalulu said:

If they were at university they wouldn’t have been children (18 is adult) 

 

They don't stop being the children of their parents when they turn 18. Anyone can act as a guarantor for another person's loan but it is usually the parents in that role since nobody else would want the risk. I was guarantor for a small personal bank loan my 21 year old daughter wanted. Even though she was an adult, it was her first loan so needed a guarantor.

[Andrew65]

4 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Easily takes 2-3 months before they actually cut you off, water much faster. Happened to me a few times while traveling.

Between 2006-2011 I lived in a condo in Bangkok. There was a landline telephone there which I never once used in 5 years. There would always be a 117 Baht (something like that) charge on my room rent for it. When I enquired about having it removed I was told that this wasn't possible because of the cost of reconnection.

[ChaiyaTH]

1 minute ago, Andrew65 said:

Between 2006-2011 I lived in a condo in Bangkok. There was a landline telephone there which I never once used in 5 years. There would always be a 117 Baht (something like that) charge on my room rent for it. When I enquired about having it removed I was told that this wasn't possible because of the cost of reconnection.

Never had my electric being cut off but for water it costed not more than 1K baht to get connected again. It's this old dude who always makes the bills by hand and removes them by motorbike, since he knew i was travel often he stopped doing it. I just think it's stupid, water is a primary need and we talk 50-100 baht a month.

[safarimike11]

On 5/4/2025 at 5:33 AM, Georgealbert said:

 

Picture courtesy of Khaosod.

 

A landlord has been left devastated after a British tenant abandoned her Pattaya rental property, leaving it damaged and littered with rubbish. The home, located in Bang Lamung district of Chonburi province, was also reported to have a strong smell of cannabis throughout and signs of possible cultivation inside.

 

Mrs Chudanat Penampipinyo, 52, shared images and video footage on social media showing the appalling condition of her property, both inside and out. The rented house, once newly renovated and attractively furnished, was found in a state of disarray, with nearly every item damaged or destroyed. Over ten black bags of rubbish were left behind, decorative features were vandalised, and security cameras had been deliberately obstructed with stickers.

 

Mrs Chudanat told reporters that she had leased the property to a British man named Alexander William and his Thai wife in December 2024 through a rental agent. The one-year contract quickly fell into difficulty when the tenant failed to pay rent on time and accrued three months of unpaid electricity and internet bills, resulting in the disconnection of services.

 

She attempted to terminate the lease in March 2025. However, the tenant refused to vacate the property, even when she returned accompanied by police officers. Mrs Chudanat said he promised to leave by 30 April but fled the scene without notice, leaving air conditioning units and lights running.

 

“Nothing could prepare me for what I saw,” said Mrs Chudanat. “The smell of marijuana was overwhelming. Everything was destroyed, it was as if someone had deliberately ruined every part of the house.”

 

Following the incident, Mrs Chudanat filed a formal complaint at Nongprue Police Station and is cooperating with officers by submitting video clips, photos, contracts, and bills as evidence. After sharing her experience online, others came forward reporting similar dealings with the same tenant, although no legal action had previously been taken.

 

Mrs Chudanat is now calling on the authorities to track down the individual and hold him accountable. “This must not happen to other landlords. We need to thoroughly vet prospective tenants, especially foreign nationals, and insist on stronger protections.”

 

 

  Adapted by Asean Now from Khoasod 2025-05-04.

 

 

 

Signed contract? Passport copy? One month's rent as security deposit? TM30 copy? 

[ChrisKC]

1 hour ago, MangoKorat said:

What would you do smart**s?

 

As it happens, I haven't done it but I would - most landlords I know do.

So you would even lie to the Landlords you know! It's not getting better for you here, is it?

 

Seems like there is good case for vetting Landlords as well!

 

[treetops]

29 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

Easily takes 2-3 months before they actually cut you off, water much faster. Happened to me a few times while traveling.

 

I got cut off last year when I was away for less than a month and my direct debit to pay the bill failed while I was gone, so not always 2-3 months.