It's already getting ugly in China.

[riclag]

2 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

Probably not. Markets are already up as China has cut interest rates to loosen liquidity to aid the Chinese economy and Bessent and Co are to meet with China's top economics offficial in Switzerland.

 

https://www.spglobal.com/market-intelligence/en/news-insights/articles/2025/5/china-cuts-policy-rate-bank-reserve-requirement-ahead-of-us-trade-talks-88862982

Let it be known I only use appropriate Emoji’s Have a ❤️ 

[Cameroni]

3 minutes ago, riclag said:

Let it be known I only use appropriate Emoji’s Have a ❤️ 

 

As always you are an officer and a gentleman.

[ThreeCardMonte]

1 hour ago, CallumWK said:

 

Strange?

 

There was no reason for a lawsuit under different presidents, since they weren't numb nuts.

Oh, I see. 

 

Are you saying no other President “in decades” hasn’t had tariffs placed on China?

 

Or is the reason Trump is President?  Regardless of who is instigating.  Lefty or RINO.

 

Are you aware the wicked witch (guess) of Congress was all in favor of tariffs on China?

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Oh, I see. 

 

Are you saying no other President “in decades” hasn’t had tariffs placed on China?

 

Thanks for taking my post out of its context, I wouldn't have expected anything less from a cult member.

 

What I was saying is, no there were no tariffs on the WHOLE world, and certainly NEVER 145% tariffs on China

[ThreeCardMonte]

59 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Don't worry, China has plenty of very nice electric cars.

That’s nice.

 

But irrelevant to the U.S./ worldwide leftists torchers.

 

They’re only interested in turncoats.  Vindictive little pric— , aren’t they?

 

[cjinchiangrai]

Just now, ThreeCardMonte said:

That’s nice.

 

But irrelevant to the U.S./ worldwide leftists torchers.

 

They’re only interested in turncoats.  Vindictive little pric— , aren’t they?

 

The vindictive one is Trump. His petty revenge spree is going to destroy the US.

[ThreeCardMonte]

8 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Thanks for taking my post out of its context, I wouldn't have expected anything less from a cult member.

 

What I was saying is, no there were no tariffs on the WHOLE world, and certainly NEVER 145% tariffs on China

I don’t believe you but;  There’s a new Sheriff on town.  A Nationalist, 

 

America #1

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

 There’s a new Sheriff on town.  A Nationalist, 

 

 There’s a new Sheriff on town.  A fascist, racist dictator.

 

See I corrected it for you

[ThreeCardMonte]

6 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

The vindictive one is Trump. His petty revenge spree is going to destroy the US.

Revenge on who?  Countries that have been taking advantage of the US for decades.

 

About Fu—ing time.

[CallumWK]

2 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

16 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Thanks for taking my post out of its context, I wouldn't have expected anything less from a cult member.

 

What I was saying is, no there were no tariffs on the WHOLE world, and certainly NEVER 145% tariffs on China

I don’t believe you

 

It wouldn't be difficult to double check, but of course for that you have to open your eyes, and flush the cult induced brain.

[CallumWK]

2 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Countries that have been taking advantage of the US for decades.

 

How has the EU been taken advantage of the US?

 

[ThreeCardMonte]

6 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

 There’s a new Sheriff on town.  A fascist, racist dictator.

 

See I corrected it for you

Never heard of those before…

You left out January 6th.  Insurrectionist. Normally that’s to “go to”  statement on the forum when the left is stumped or lost face.

You’re slipping in your aging years.

[ThreeCardMonte]

9 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

It wouldn't be difficult to double check, but of course for that you have to open your eyes, and flush the cult induced brain.

No need to double check.  You’re wrong.  Even you know it.

[ThreeCardMonte]

9 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

How has the EU been taken advantage of the US?

 

The things one can do with Microsoft software is amazing.

 

Isn’t it?

[CallumWK]

1 minute ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

The things one can do with Microsoft software is amazing.

 

Isn’t it?

 

Troll on my ignore list, though I'm sure you were there already under your previous username

[ThreeCardMonte]

2 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Troll on my ignore list, though I'm sure you were there already under your previous username

As Michael said to Fredo in the Godfather.

 

You broke my heart.

 

You proven what I’ve always known.  The left gives up easily.  

[swissie]

1 hour ago, Cameroni said:

 

Probably not. Markets are already up as China has cut interest rates to loosen liquidity to aid the Chinese economy and Bessent and Co are to meet with China's top economics offficial in Switzerland.

 

https://www.spglobal.com/market-intelligence/en/news-insights/articles/2025/5/china-cuts-policy-rate-bank-reserve-requirement-ahead-of-us-trade-talks-88862982

 

SP has also said that the US' credit rating is likely to be unaffected by the trade war.

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/china/sp-global-sees-credit-rating-breathing-room-trade-war-rivals-us-china-2025-04-29/

I diden't say that the US credit-rating will suffer in the short term. But investors will ask for higher yields as far as T-Bills/Bonds are concerned. Regardless what the FED will do.

 

The Issue: American politics and the monetary "helmsmen" want the Dollar lower. Once international investors should suffer another 7% decline in the value of their US $ holdings against their home currency could initiate a new "Bretton Woods" agreement.

 

The new currency consisting of a basket of Gold, the price of Wheat, the price of shell Eggs and the price of services of the prostitutes of Amsterdam. The new "world currency" = BUT STILL MEASURED IN US DOLLARS.😂

 

For better or for worse, the US dollar will remain the Sun of the monetary universe, other currencies (like planets) only orbiting around the sun.

 

But then: Not long ago, the British Pound was the monetary "sun" of the world.

 

The Swiss Franc the most stable currency for the last 180 years. But not enough in circulation to buy Greenland, not to speak of Canada.

[ThreeCardMonte]

4 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Troll on my ignore list, though I'm sure you were there already under your previous username

Are you a stalker?  
 

You’re as weird as Walz.

 

 

[cjinchiangrai]

1 minute ago, swissie said:

I diden't say that the US credit-rating will suffer in the short term. But investors will ask for higher yields as far as T-Bills/Bonds are concerned. Regardless what the FED will do.

 

The Issue: American politics and the monetary "helmsmen" want the Dollar lower. Once international investors should suffer another 7% decline in the value of their US $ holdings against their home currency could initiate a new "Bretton Woods" agreement.

 

The new currency consisting of a basket of Gold, the price of Wheat, the price of shell Eggs and the price of services of the prostitutes of Amsterdam. The new "world currency" = BUT STILL MEASURED IN US DOLLARS.😂

 

For better or for worse, the US dollar will remain the Sun of the monetary universe, other currencies (like planets) only orbiting around the sun.

 

But then: Not long ago, the British Pound was the monetary "sun" of the world.

 

The Swiss Franc the most stable currency for the last 180 years. But not enough in circulation to buy Greenland, not to speak of Canada.

Not once they start trading oil in Yuan and replace the SWIFT system. Trump has insulted everyone and they are pushing the destruct button.

[ThreeCardMonte]

2 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Not once they start trading oil in Yuan and replace the SWIFT system. Trump has insulted everyone and they are pushing the destruct button.

“Trump has insulted everyone”

Are you offended?

[ericthai]

18 hours ago, Cryingdick said:

The Chinese are hiding their books and protests are breaking out across the country. In one place factory workers even threatened to jump off the factories they work at. It seems the notion that Chinese people relish and even embrace economic misery are not how it is. This is happening after how long? Give it a month and see it play out. I can live with out a new toaster that long.

 

 

https://nypost.com/2025/05/06/world-news/protests-erupt-in-china-as-trumps-steep-tariffs-bite-extremely-anxious/

i have friends in China, It's not happening like this. Yes, things are difficult but not extreme.

Think about it, the USA is supposedly only 14% of China's GDP, so how could this make that much of an impact. 

[cjinchiangrai]

13 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

“Trump has insulted everyone”

Are you offended?

Everything about the malignant MAGA moron offends me. How anyone could think a corrupt felon is qualified for leadership says a lot about the cult and his minions.

[CallumWK]

4 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

How anyone could think a corrupt felon is qualified for leadership says a lot about the cult and his minions.

 

Who knows, maybe we see a repeat of the Waco event

[CallumWK]

9 minutes ago, ericthai said:

i have friends in China, It's not happening like this. Yes, things are difficult but not extreme.

Think about it, the USA is supposedly only 14% of China's GDP, so how could this make that much of an impact. 

 

Not even 14% of GDP, it's 14% of their exports

[ThreeCardMonte]

8 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

 

Who knows, maybe we see a repeat of the Waco event

You would make a fantastic David Koresh.

[ThreeCardMonte]

15 minutes ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Everything about the malignant MAGA moron offends me. How anyone could think a corrupt felon is qualified for leadership says a lot about the cult and his minions.

Ok,

 

BE OFFENDED!  Everyone doesn’t get a trophy.

 

You're still not over the election, are you?

 

His leadership skills is a reminder how incompetent Biden was and Democrats and some RINOS currently are.

 

[ThreeCardMonte]

3 hours ago, cjinchiangrai said:

Bidens friends making red hats and giving Ivanka patents.

How sweet!

[ThreeCardMonte]

28 minutes ago, ericthai said:

i have friends in China, It's not happening like this. Yes, things are difficult but not extreme.

Think about it, the USA is supposedly only 14% of China's GDP, so how could this make that much of an impact. 

 

If only 14 % I would agree.

 

But highly doubtful.  

Their President wants to come to the table with Trump without losing face.

 

He”s no match for Trump.  Not even close.  The left knows this but refuses to acknowledge.  Nothing new.

 

Trump is actually being “nice” to bring him in.   He eventually will.

 

But Trump is a facist, racist, felon, dictator, insurrectionist, liar, cheater.

 

 

And he is the President of the United States residing on Pennsylvania Avenue.  And no one on the left is.  So sorry.

Not everything in this post is directed at you.  Just making a statement from yours.

 

 

 

 

[Cameroni]

1 hour ago, swissie said:

But then: Not long ago, the British Pound was the monetary "sun" of the world.

 

Quite so, but the British Empire was an exploitation model, stealing from natives outright with the Gatling gun, or cheating them by giving them glass beads for gold. The United States by contrast is a true economic giant, richer than God, its economy unfathomable in its productivity and of such size that it dwarves anything Britain has ever created. The riches and strength of the US economy are such that one cannot really compare the current US technology to Britain. I truly believe the US economy will be the sun of the world for many moons to come, especially now that Trump appears to bring China to her knees, they are in real trouble.

 

The Swiss Franc? As stable and developed as the Swiss economy is, it had a recession 1991 to 1993, unemployment has gone up dramatically now. When I was in Zurich's park I thought I'd ended up in Ghana or Ivory Coast. I somehow doubt the Swiss Franc will replace the US Dollar, as you rightly say, not so much of it in circulation.

[thesetat]

11 hours ago, jerrymahoney said:

From NY Times via https://archive.ph/6MsBN#selection-517.0-521.168

 

Trump Officials to Meet With Chinese Counterparts Amid Trade Standoff
Scott Bessent, the Treasury secretary, and Jamieson Greer, the United States trade representative, will discuss trade and economic matters with the officials this week.

 

May 6, 2025 Updated 8:21 p.m. ET -- Asked about the talks in Switzerland, a spokesperson for the Chinese Ministry of Commerce said that U.S. officials had “continuously leaked information about adjusting tariff measures and actively conveyed information to China through various channels, hoping to talk with China on tariffs and other issues.”

 

“China has carefully evaluated the U.S. information,” the spokesperson said. “On the basis of fully considering global expectations, China’s interests and the calls of the U.S. industry and consumers, China has decided to agree to engage with the U.S.”

 

“If the United States wants to resolve the issue through negotiations,” the spokesperson added, “it must face up to the serious negative impact of unilateral tariff measures on itself and the world, face up to international economic and trade rules, fairness and justice, and rational voices from all walks of life, show sincerity in talks, correct its wrong practices, meet China halfway and resolve the concerns of both sides through equal consultation.”

 

(my bold)

 

 

 

 

Your bold show you side with China. However cruel it may seem, China has been bleeding the US dry for years with their unfair trade. China has gotten rich and grown enormously in production and weaponry using the unfair trading policies. Meanwhile, in the US, factories closed. production stopped and became non-existent. There has always been tolerance because the people were buying cheap goods. Neglecting the underside of it. Increasing debt to china. 

China needs to back off and accept that the unbalanced trade is unacceptable anymore. Americans lost so much and became reliant to the point where China thinks they can control everything. They are mistaken. Personally, I think what Trump is doing will be great for the American people in the long run. I hate to see it make the Chinese people suffer but actions so drastic such as this have impacts on everyones lives. 

China should come to the bargaining table ready to accept a balanced trade deal.