webfact Posted Tuesday at 08:46 PM Posted Tuesday at 08:46 PM Germany's incoming chancellor Friedrich Merz shakes hands with outgoing German chancellor Olaf Scholz as Merz is elected (Picture courtesy of REUTERS/Fabrizio Bensch) In an unexpected twist in German politics, conservative leader Friedrich Merz has secured the chancellor's position after a second round of voting in the parliament. Merz faced a remarkable political hurdle as the initial parliamentary vote saw his alliance with the centre-left Social Democrats rejected—the first such failure in post-war Germany. Despite leading the CDU/CSU alliance to victory in February's federal election and forming a coalition with the Social Democrats, Merz initially fell short on securing enough support, obtaining only 310 out of the necessary 316 votes in the first try. However, a subsequent secret ballot yielded a 325 to 289 vote in his favour, enabling Merz to sidestep a political quandary that left him visibly shaken and prompted emergency discussions with his loyalists. As 69-year-old Merz prepares to take charge amidst a stagnant economy and heightened global tensions, his leadership is under scrutiny. His coalition has proposed strategies to boost growth by slashing corporate taxes and energy costs while pledging robust backing for Ukraine and beefier military budgets. Yet, significant tasks lie ahead, particularly with a defence in government positions secured only by Defence Minister Boris Pistorius. The appointment of Merz marks his debut in a governmental role, having launched his career as a European lawmaker in 1989 and later rising to prominence in German politics. His leadership is challenged by dwindling public support, driven partly by the staunch rise of the far-right Alternative for Germany (AfD). The AfD has been classified as right-wing extremist by domestic security services and has gained a foothold, particularly in Germany's eastern regions. President Frank-Walter Steinmeier was set to swear in Merz and his cabinet, which consists primarily of fresh faces, many from the private sector. The swearing-in ceremony was scheduled before Merz's diplomatic visits to Paris and Warsaw. As Merz steps into his role at a momentous time for Germany, opposition voices question his ability to unify both the parliament and the nation. Far-left and far-right figures criticised Merz, highlighting a perceived fragility in the coalition's foundation. Despite the rocky start, Merz now assumes the mantle as post-war Germany's 10th chancellor, with his leadership vision firmly under the spotlight as Europe watches closely. Adapted by ASEAN Now from Bangkok Post 2025-05-07 2 1
FlorC Posted yesterday at 01:51 AM Posted yesterday at 01:51 AM Very sad ! The Germans are going to pay for it , literally and in others ways. 2 3
Popular Post SOTIRIOS Posted yesterday at 02:44 AM Popular Post Posted yesterday at 02:44 AM ...Another In A Series Of 'Unlikely Vote Outcomes' Manifesting Globally... (?) 1 1 1
FlorC Posted yesterday at 04:34 AM Posted yesterday at 04:34 AM 1 hour ago, Bannoi said: Good news for Ukraine Yes , another time the Germans go fight the Russians (direct or proxy). Like other euro countries they are blind to the army already within their border. 1 1 5
sharot724 Posted yesterday at 04:40 AM Posted yesterday at 04:40 AM Who would have thought Germany, of all the countries, they would emerge as the class of the World. go figure... 1
Sydebolle Posted yesterday at 05:04 AM Posted yesterday at 05:04 AM Well, one should bar all those gifted politicians who changed their mind of "no" to "yes" within hours; wondering what kind of envelopes/promises Merz had to admit. Merz is not there to serve Germany to the best of his abilities but to serve himself to the best of his ego and status. Nothing to do with excellent German politicians like Brandt, Schmidt, Genscher or Wishnevsky - sad state of affairs. But then again, why should Germany be different to the rest of completely decadent derailed Europe ....... Europe - quo vadis? The car called "Europe" had an excellent motor called "Germany"; regretfully a thing of the distant past. Let's see if war mongering Merz puts the "Taurus" war gear in motion towards Ukraine which will break the (Russian's) camels back. Unless someone can stop these mad minds I fear for the worst. Eventually common sense will prevail and Merz is "detronizzato" within a year - hope dies last, as we know. As a non-German I can only hope and wonder, if the outcome reflects the true wish of the German voters or rather some WEF-corrupt clowns in the circus tent of Berlin? 3 4
KhunBENQ Posted yesterday at 05:38 AM Posted yesterday at 05:38 AM Look at the looser party (SPD, "social democrats") and see how many ministers and other high ranks they get. It's a complete voter fraud. And of course the cabinet is balanced to the woke (male/female, east/west/north/south). It's not about finding the most competent people. At the very end of the last legislative period they rushed through a trillion Euro debt package. 100 billion assigned to climate protection to buy the vote of the greens. 1 1 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted yesterday at 05:49 AM Popular Post Posted yesterday at 05:49 AM Oh what a tangled web we weave. The machinations to keep the AFD out of power are coming at a high price to Germany, and ultimately the EU. 1 1 2 2 1 1
rudi49jr Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 4 hours ago, JonnyF said: Oh what a tangled web we weave. The machinations to keep the AFD out of power are coming at a high price to Germany, and ultimately the EU. The AfD did not win the election, as far as I know, not even close. And a party that’s all buddy buddy with Russia and whose leader called Hitler a socialist should not be allowed anywhere near a position of power. 1 1 1
johng Posted 20 hours ago Posted 20 hours ago 6 minutes ago, rudi49jr said: The AfD did not win the election They should have and would have if it wasn't for 2 rival parties ganging up to keep them out of office... Much like the Reform party in England had a very large share of votes but only gained 2 seats in parliament..how ever they recently gained a big win in local council elections and the "ruling party" are now having some thoughts. AFD will probably also cause those German ruling party coalitions members some thoughts. []t for 1 3 2
Popular Post candide Posted 19 hours ago Popular Post Posted 19 hours ago 22 minutes ago, johng said: They should have and would have if it wasn't for 2 rival parties ganging up to keep them out of office... Much like the Reform party in England had a very large share of votes but only gained 2 seats in parliament..how ever they recently gained a big win in local council elections and the "ruling party" are now having some thoughts. AFD will probably also cause those German ruling party coalitions members some thoughts. []t for No. Not like UK. In Germany, seats are allocated according to the percentage of votes for each party. AfD lost, and the CDU/CSU won, accord8ng to their respective number of votes. https://www.dw.com/en/german-election-results-explained-in-graphics/a-71724186 1 2 1
rudi49jr Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 1 hour ago, johng said: They should have and would have if it wasn't for 2 rival parties ganging up to keep them out of office... Much like the Reform party in England had a very large share of votes but only gained 2 seats in parliament..how ever they recently gained a big win in local council elections and the "ruling party" are now having some thoughts. AFD will probably also cause those German ruling party coalitions members some thoughts. []t for This post just shows your utter ignorance on this matter. Germany has a one man/woman, one vote system. No districts, no electoral college, nothing. Here’s how that worked out in percentages. So don’t give me that BS that AfD should have and would have won. 1 1 1 1
johng Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago The graph above just confirms what I said two parties ganged up to keep AFD from gaining power. https://www.deutschland.de/en/topic/politics/coalition-treaty-new-federal-government-germany-overview Following several weeks of coalition negotiations, the Christian Democratic Union of Germany / Christian Social Union (CDU/CSU) and the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) have set out their plans for a coalition government in a treaty. 1 1
Popular Post rudi49jr Posted 18 hours ago Popular Post Posted 18 hours ago 1 minute ago, johng said: The graph above just confirms what I said two parties ganged up to keep AFD from gaining power. https://www.deutschland.de/en/topic/politics/coalition-treaty-new-federal-government-germany-overview Following several weeks of coalition negotiations, the Christian Democratic Union of Germany / Christian Social Union (CDU/CSU) and the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) have set out their plans for a coalition government in a treaty. How does that equate to ‘AfD would have and should have won’? 1 1 1
johng Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago If the two parties had not ganged up then the AFD would have won its quite simple look at your graph they got the most votes for a single party. Also it seems AFD took all of the former "Eastern Germany" and had quite a bit of success in "Western Germany" too. And just like in the UK the success of the new "opposition" party has scared the living daylights out of the "traditional" two party incumbents. 1 1
candide Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 5 minutes ago, johng said: If the two parties had not ganged up then the AFD would have won its quite simple look at your graph they got the most votes for a single party. Also it seems AFD took all of the former "Eastern Germany" and had quite a bit of success in "Western Germany" too. And just like in the UK the success of the new "opposition" party has scared the living daylights out of the "traditional" two party incumbents. Can't you read? CDU/CSU 28.6%, AfD 20.8% 🤣 1 1
johng Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 1 minute ago, candide said: Can't you read? CDU/CSU 28.6% CDU/CSU are the same party ? why do they have 2 names ?
Sir Dude Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago Classic case of German politics and election MO, completely weak and designed to make traffic-light coalitions that can barely agree on anything, with endless meetings to decide anything meaningful. Times they are a changing and people are unhappy with the status quo... the winds of change are blowing across Europe and it is only a matter of time regarding how long the established liberal order can hang on to power, as they have generally failed miserably on major issues and people are starting to see it. 1 1 2
UWEB Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 6 hours ago, JonnyF said: Oh what a tangled web we weave. The machinations to keep the AFD out of power are coming at a high price to Germany, and ultimately the EU. Better to pay a high price than have the NSAFD Fascists in power. 2 2
Cameroni Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 16 minutes ago, johng said: CDU/CSU are the same party ? why do they have 2 names ? One is the Bavarian division. They wear Lederhosen. 1
UWEB Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 39 minutes ago, johng said: The graph above just confirms what I said two parties ganged up to keep AFD from gaining power. https://www.deutschland.de/en/topic/politics/coalition-treaty-new-federal-government-germany-overview Following several weeks of coalition negotiations, the Christian Democratic Union of Germany / Christian Social Union (CDU/CSU) and the Social Democratic Party of Germany (SPD) have set out their plans for a coalition government in a treaty. Since the Federal Republic of Germany exist there was never a one party only Government, it's always two or more parties for a coalition government. 1
candide Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 18 minutes ago, johng said: CDU/CSU are the same party ? why do they have 2 names ? CSU is the Cristian Democrat party in Bayern. They've been together since 1949.
johng Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 19 minutes ago, Cameroni said: One is the Bavarian division. They wear Lederhosen.
StayinThailand2much Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 10 hours ago, FlorC said: Very sad ! The Germans are going to pay for it , literally and in others ways. Exactly, Germany is the 'Sick Man of Europe' again, thanks to Merkel's and Scholz's mismanagement over the past 20 years. Doubtful that a Merz government will be able to turn that around. 1 2 3
Cameroni Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 31 minutes ago, UWEB said: Since the Federal Republic of Germany exist there was never a one party only Government, it's always two or more parties for a coalition government. Not true. From 20 September 1960 to 1961 the Christian Democrats ruled the FRG by themselves.
UWEB Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Cameroni said: Not true. From 20 September 1960 to 1961 the Christian Democrats ruled the FRG by themselves. Not true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Federal_Republic_of_Germany_governments 1
Cameroni Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 41 minutes ago, UWEB said: Not true https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Federal_Republic_of_Germany_governments When you are taught by people who know more than you, it is better to accept the schooling with humility, accept your ignorance, and not to compound your embarassment by digging your hole even deeper. "At the federal level, a single-party government has occurred only once so far. Between 1957 and 1961, the CDU/CSU held an absolute majority in the Bundestag and was able to govern alone (Third Adenauer cabinet); even then, the minor German Party was included in the government for the first three years of its existence, and the government was not a fully single-faction cabinet until those ministers joined the CDU in July 1960." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_governing_coalition#:~:text=Between 1957 and 1961%2C the,single-faction cabinet until those 1
candide Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago 1 hour ago, StayinThailand2much said: Exactly, Germany is the 'Sick Man of Europe' again, thanks to Merkel's and Scholz's mismanagement over the past 20 years. Doubtful that a Merz government will be able to turn that around. It's more than mismanagement. It's the whole economic model becoming obsolete. In particular about energy, industry and defence. 1
rudi49jr Posted 15 hours ago Posted 15 hours ago 55 minutes ago, candide said: It's more than mismanagement. It's the whole economic model becoming obsolete. In particular about energy, industry and defence. That’s why they have decided to invest hundreds of billions of euros (700 billion, if memory serves) in boosting the economy - both industry and energy sectors - and strengthening their military defense.
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