Dr Kevin STILLWAGON - I Have an Immune System, No Vaccines Needed

[Lacessit]

30 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

 

 

While I dismiss vaccination in ALL its forms (yes also rabies, polio, flu vaccines as well as the Covid-19 gen-therapy), I am a strong supporter of the homeopathic principle. 

If you were to become infected by any of the diseases you list, you would rely on homeopathy to cure you?

 

As a post demonstrating you are as sharp as a balloon.......SMH.

[rattlesnake]

8 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Well, he's still wrong about polio, and there have been only about 20 cases of people who had rabies and lived. Compare that to how many got rabies and died. A tiny fraction were lucky. As far as the polio vaccine, it's easy to look up the stats of what happened before and after the vaccine was invented. ...........https://www.who.int/news-room/spotlight/history-of-vaccination/history-of-polio-vaccination.

 

Polio is the founding myth. The core pillar of the Vaccine Religion.

[Hamus Yaigh]

8 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

… what a real anti-vaxxer sounds like

 

Source: https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/i-have-an-immune-system-no-vaccines

= = =

 

It's seldom that I come across a piece that I completely agree with and addresses a complex and controversial issue without over-simplifying it.

But here a short and very worthwhile video/article by dedicated never-vaxxer dr Kevin Stillwagon.

A personal account in which he explains - in easy to understand laymen language - the sound reasons for his stance.

The different kinds of antidotes, the epithelial barrier, rabies and polio, all aspects and arguments are addressed in this 20 minute video (also rendered as a transcript if you prefer to read it). 

 

Here the link

> https://drkevinstillwagon.substack.com/p/i-have-an-immune-system-no-vaccines

 

[save the frogs]

13 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

Vaccination on the other hand provides a clearly detectable substance, and not only that but each vaccine contains a bunch of (often toxic) adjuvants to ensure the substance will be 'accepted' by your body, irrespective whether you need it. 

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on homeopathy and the comparison.

 

Regarding the (often toxic) adjuvant, my argument is that the human body is extremely resilient.

As evidenced by the fact that human beings consume seed oils and sugar, which are poisons to the body, for decades and decades before the body finally breaks down. 

 

 

[fredwiggy]

19 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Polio is the founding myth. The core pillar of the Vaccine Religion.

Whatever some people believe, those dead and maimed from Polio know otherwise. Smallpox was actually the first vaccine, and it also saved lives. Weird that some people believe  things a certain person says and not science. Here you can read about them............https://www.who.int/news-room/spotlight/history-of-vaccination/a-brief-history-of-vaccination

[rattlesnake]

8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Whatever some people believe, those dead and maimed from Polio know otherwise. Smallpox was actually the first vaccine, and it also saved lives. Weird that some people believe  things a certain person says and not science. Here you can read about them............https://www.who.int/news-room/spotlight/history-of-vaccination/a-brief-history-of-vaccination

 

You admit yourself that Science is a belief. That's a good start.

 

Here is a good, factual explanation of what is commonly referred to as "polio". She is a blasphemer and therefore hostility is to be expected from the defenders of the faith.

 

 

 

[Red Phoenix]

7 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Thanks for sharing your thoughts on homeopathy and the comparison.

 

Regarding the (often toxic) adjuvant, my argument is that the human body is extremely resilient.

As evidenced by the fact that human beings consume seed oils and sugar, which are poisons to the body, for decades and decades before the body finally breaks down.

 

Yes, I do agree that the human body is extremely resilient.

But even so, even a strong constitution and immune system has a breaking point. 

A regimen consisting of a combination of unhealthy food, unclean air and unsound thoughts will already take its toll.  And when you add on top of that a frequent intake of chemical non-natural symptom-suppressing medication, your body will not be in Top-shape and prone to both acute and chronic illnesses (the body trying to rid itself of the accumulated toxins). 

It will be no surprise that in such cases the toxic covid gen-therapy shots and boosters can be the drop - or in this case rather the gush - that makes your bucket overflow... 

[fredwiggy]

17 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

You admit yourself that Science is a belief. That's a good start.

 

Here is a good, factual explanation of what is commonly referred to as "polio". She is a blasphemer and therefore hostility is to be expected from the defenders of the faith.

 

 

 

Science is not a belief the same as a religion is a belief. I didn't say all science was factual. Some science has proven to be factual and some is still theories. Some scientists believe the universe started with a big bang and some believe God was responsible for it. There are facts out there that anyone will dispute, because Steve on the bar stool told them otherwise. This is a doctor, of which there are many, and many kill more people every year than wars.I don't know what others believe about Polio and the vaccines made for it. It's some facts and some have opinions, and just like anything else, there are always going to be conspiracy theorists. I saw people with Polio, and have seen what the vaccine did, stats, after it came out. Some people won't believe the WHO, but they'll believe Steve on that bar stool. Some won't bother to read up on a subject and take other's opinions because they bought them a beer.I'd rather look at evidence.................https://www.who.int/about

[rattlesnake]

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Science is not a belief the same as a religion is a belief. I didn't say all science was factual. Some science has proven to be factual and some is still theories. Some scientists believe the universe started with a big bang and some believe God was responsible for it. There are facts out there that anyone will dispute, because Steve on the bar stool told them otherwise. This is a doctor, of which there are many, and many kill more people every year than wars.I don't know what others believe about Polio and the vaccines made for it. It's some facts and some have opinions, and just like anything else, there are always going to be conspiracy theorists. I saw people with Polio, and have seen what the vaccine did, stats, after it came out. Some people won't believe the WHO, but they'll believe Steve on that bar stool. Some won't bother to read up on a subject and take other's opinions because they bought them a beer.I\d rather look at evidence.................https://www.who.int/about

 

The WHO is the Central Narrative outlet, which we all know.

 

You should listen to what Dr. Humpreys says, she addresses all the points you raised above. 15 minutes well spent.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

The WHO is the Central Narrative outlet, which we all know.

 

You should listen to what Dr. Humpreys says, she addresses all the points you raised above. 15 minutes well spent.

I did listen.

[fredwiggy]

This is a good answer to Dr. Suzanne  Humphries, ............https://kindercare.ca/can-i-respect-someone-who-speaks-out-against-routine-vaccination/.

[Magictoad]

He's a w@nquer. People have always had immune systems but it didn't stop them dieing in their thousands until vaccines were invented. Put people can suffer if they wish to but trying to get other people to reject vaccines is horribly irresponsible because it lowers ours group immunity as is happening in the USA with Measles currently. 12 people are spreading the anti vax, anti science rumours to the detriment of billions. Because they have no medical or scientific validity they come to obscure forums like this to spread their f!]th.

[rattlesnake]

14 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

This is a good answer to Dr. Suzanne  Humphries, ............https://kindercare.ca/can-i-respect-someone-who-speaks-out-against-routine-vaccination/.

 

That's a lot of words to say one will not address the substance of the issue.

[fredwiggy]

1 minute ago, rattlesnake said:

 

That's a lot of words to say one will not address the substance of the issue.

There will always be anti vaxxers, who should just do what they do and let others decide what they do. There is a lot of evidence they work, and some will doubt the sun is real so..............

[BLMFem]

 

"I Have an Immune System, No Vaccines Needed"

 

So did every smallpox victim - right up until smallpox won.

Or, I have a brain, I don't need school.

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

4 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Stillwagon is not a medical doctor and has no  medical training. He completed a chiropractor training program. He  hasn't even practiced  his bone cracking nonsense for decades and is not licensed.  To call him a doctor is to try and mislead people, but then when you are promoting false information it should not come as a surprise.

 

That's the kind of non-"expert" that the OP poster here tirelessly spams the forum with.

 

Because the actual scientists and medical researchers with expertise in COVID, infectious diseases and vaccines typically would regard all of his posting and cited sources as RUBBISH!

 

[TallGuyJohninBKK]

This OP source rubbish purveyor has been at it for a long time relating to COVID... Here he was 4 years back still spouting nonsense:

 

 

https://factcheck.afp.com/doc.afp.com.9PW8PJ

 

Whenever I need authoritative info regarding COVID and vaccines, retired chiropractors are the very FIRST experts I seek out, of course!!!  

 

YEEESH!!!

 

Interesting that the above AFP Fact Check report from Oct. 2021 concludes with the following tidbit:

 

"AFP Fact Check has debunked more than 1,000 false or misleading claims about the virus and the vaccines."

 

That was almost FOUR years ago. Just think how many thousands more there have been since then, including probably hundreds of nonsense posts right here that would not survive any actual fact checking, were it to be done.

 

But hey, this is part of the "Off the Beaten Track" forum, where demonstrably false information and non-credible sources are officially encouraged!

 

 

[fredwiggy]

3 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

 

At least you made the effort to read part of dr Stillwagon's article, and for that I commend you. 

Re your comparison of innoculation and homeopathy > Yes, on the surface they look somewhat same.

Homeopathy is based on the principle that "similia similibus curentur" meaning "like is cured by like." In homeopathy by administering a diluted (infinitesimally small) amount of the right substance in the right dosage, that will cure you.  The incorrect substance or the incorrect dilution will have no effect on you, as the homeopath is looking for what 'you are missing'. 

But that's about where the comparison stops. 

While homeopathy is typically taken orally, with vaccination you are by-passing the epithelial barrier by injecting the substance, which would otherwise be rejected by your outside protective layer.

Also, the 'substance' in the most potent form of homeopathy is diluted to such a degree that not a single molecule of that substance remains.  And that's the main reason, in spite of its often spectacular successes when the right substance in the right dosage was administered, that current materialistic medicine, rejects homeopathy as quackery.  They simlay do not understand the potentialization process in which the information of the substance remains, while material analysis shows that there is 'nothing' in it any more).  

Vaccination on the other hand provides a clearly detectable substance, and not only that but each vaccine contains a bunch of (often toxic) adjuvants to ensure the substance will be 'accepted' by your body, irrespective whether you need it. 

 

While I dismiss vaccination in ALL its forms (yes also rabies, polio, flu vaccines as well as the Covid-19 gen-therapy), I am a strong supporter of the homeopathic principle. 

Pray you don't get bit by a stray dog here or elsewhere, and can't bring him to be tested. Not getting rabies treatment and finding out it was positive will surely see you stop posting on AN.I may be wrong but in all likelihood you've had your Polio shot when you were young.

[rattlesnake]

54 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

There will always be anti vaxxers, who should just do what they do and let others decide what they do. There is a lot of evidence they work, and some will doubt the sun is real so..............

 

That works for me. Remove all mandates, especially for kids.

[fredwiggy]

3 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

That works for me. Remove all mandates, especially for kids.

Except of course the usual proven ones. Covid I don't think young children really need it, although my daughter did get hers............https://www.samitivejhospitals.com/article/detail/immunization-recommendation-for-children

[rasg]

11 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

This came today...........https://www.yahoo.com/news/shingles-vaccine-unexpected-effect-heart-193943612.html.

It's interesting but not many in the UK would benefit from it as the NHS only give the shingles vaccine to 65 year olds, and over 70 year olds. You read that right. If you are 65 you can have it but 66, 67, 68 and 69 year olds cannot.

 

I had shingles a few years ago and because it was spotted very early, the anti virals the doctor meant that shingles wasn't bad at all. What was bad was the neuropathy that followed that went on for more than a year.

[spidermike007]

21 hours ago, Red Phoenix said:

> Posting a ThumbsDown emoji and comment WITHOUT having read dr Stillwagon's arguments, clearly demonstrates the shallowness of your thinking.  

Keep on boosting, eventually you will face the consequences!

Your rather severe judgment is far worse than an emoji. You just might need some counseling. Or grow some thicker skin. 

[save the frogs]

On 5/10/2025 at 7:35 PM, Red Phoenix said:

Keep on boosting, eventually you will face the consequences!

 

So anyway, what were you expecting would happen? Everyone who got the Covid jab would drop dead and the only people remaining on the planet would be the anti-vaxxers? How many anti-vaxxers are there on the planet? 100,000?

 

Kind of like Noah's Ark. Repopulate the planet with anti-vaxxers only.

 

[Ralf001]

42 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

So anyway, what were you expecting would happen? Everyone who got the Covid jab would drop dead and the only people remaining on the planet would be the anti-vaxxers? How many anti-vaxxers are there on the planet? 100,000?

 

Kind of like Noah's Ark. Repopulate the planet with anti-vaxxers only.

 

[simon43]

[quote]

As evidenced by the fact that human beings consume seed oils and sugar, which are poisons to the body, for decades and decades before the body finally breaks down. 

[/quote]

 

All organisms need food energy, which is converted into ATP by cellular respiration.

 

Food energy is sugar, glucose sugar C6H12O6 .  If sugar is poison to our body, shouldn't someone inform that to every living plant and animal??

[Lacessit]

On 5/11/2025 at 3:07 PM, rattlesnake said:

 

Polio is the founding myth. The core pillar of the Vaccine Religion.

Smallpox is the core pillar of vaccination, declared eradicated in 1980, thanks to vaccination.

 

Ordinary smallpox had a death rate of 30%. Hemorrhagic smallpox was between 97-100%.

 

If anything is a religion, it is the anti-vaxxer movement, complete with false prophets on YouTube.

 

A chiropractor calling himself a doctor. No training or experience in immunology.

 

It's like asking the local butcher to do open-heart surgery. Dumb as a can of soup.

[Lacessit]

8 hours ago, simon43 said:

[quote]

As evidenced by the fact that human beings consume seed oils and sugar, which are poisons to the body, for decades and decades before the body finally breaks down. 

[/quote]

 

All organisms need food energy, which is converted into ATP by cellular respiration.

 

Food energy is sugar, glucose sugar C6H12O6 .  If sugar is poison to our body, shouldn't someone inform that to every living plant and animal??

The problem with sugar is its excessive use, leading to insulin resistance, inflammation, obesity, and diabetes. It's a poison all right. As Paracelsus said, the dose makes the poison.

 

How ubiquitous sugar is in virtually all Thai food can be measured by the fact local crops were not enough for Mitripol, so they bought up all sugar production in Australia.

[rattlesnake]

50 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

A chiropractor calling himself a doctor. No training or experience in immunology.

 

It's like asking the local butcher to do open-heart surgery. Dumb as a can of soup.

 

Still waiting for your high-IQ insights on the Impossible Question, the Redfield question.

 

(Top virologist Dr. Robert Redfield, who served as the director of the CDC, claims that reports of so-called "Long Covid" are actually a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injury).

 

This is where we were at, for your convenience:

 

 

[Lacessit]

40 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Still waiting for your high-IQ insights on the Impossible Question, the Redfield question.

 

(Top virologist Dr. Robert Redfield, who served as the director of the CDC, claims that reports of so-called "Long Covid" are actually a cover-up for mRNA vaccine injury).

 

This is where we were at, for your convenience:

 

 

I've had 3 mRNA boosters. I've had COVID once in between those boosters. 3 days of a sore throat and runny nose, finish. I am in the most vulnerable age cohort.

 

The only side effect I note is a very low tolerance of fools.

 

Does Dr. Redfield produce any concrete evidence of his claim, or is it merely an opinion?

 

What is the incidence of long COVID in unvaccinated people compared to vaccinated people? People who are unvaccinated can't get mRNA injury, right?

 

In Australia, why were unvaccinated people who got COVID 6-7 times more likely to need ICU admission?

[rattlesnake]

6 minutes ago, Lacessit said:

Does Dr. Redfield produce any concrete evidence of his claim, or is it merely an opinion?

 

What do you think?

 

This is what Dr. Redfield's peers had to say about him when he was appointed as CDC Director in 2018:

 

“Dr. Redfield’s appointment to Director of CDC is a brilliant recognition of a great public health advocate, an excellent researcher, and one that has a life of dedication to public service. This appointment is refreshingly not about politics, but about quality, competence and compassion. Dr. Redfield encompasses all of those qualities and more.”

Terry Lierman, Chairman of IHV’s Board of Advisors

 

“Dr. Redfield is eminently qualified for this critical position. He has made a lifelong commitment to advancing biomedical research and human health through discovery-based medicine."

Albert Reece, MD, PhD, MBA, Executive Vice President for Medical Affairs (UM Baltimore) and John Z. Akiko Bowers Distinguished Professor and Dean (University of Maryland School of Medicine)

 

“Dr. Redfield has served his country well, and consistently demonstrates strong public health instincts that are grounded in science and clinical medicine. In my view, despite the loss to the Institute, I believe this makes him the ideal candidate to direct the CDC.”

Dr. Gallo, Director and co-founder of the Institute of Human Virology (IHV) at the University of Maryland School of Medicine in Baltimore, Maryland

 

https://www.medschool.umaryland.edu/news/2018/dr-robert-redfield-co-founder-of-the-institute-of-human-virology-at-the-university-of-maryland-school-of-medicine-to-become-cdc-director.html