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White House and Qatar in Talks Over Presidential Jet for Trump Administration


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11 minutes ago, Social Media said:

 

 

The deal also surfaces amid frustrations expressed by Trump over Boeing’s delays in delivering two 747-8s that were initially ordered during his first presidency. In February, Trump criticized the manufacturer, saying, “No, I’m not happy with Boeing. It takes them a long time to do, you know, Air Force One, we gave that contract out a long time ago. We may buy a plane or get a plane, or something.”

 

 

 

 

Prolly could get one from China fairly quickly.

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As I recall, 747's aren't converted to Air Force One.  They're built from the ground up, even using different alloys than a production 747.  Of course, it's possible that the Qatari's ordered it that way for their ruling family.  Nothing but the best...  Heck, it may be better than a US gub'ment specked AF1.

 

I don't have a dog in this fight. I could see it going many different ways.  But I'm not all up in arms, given how many freebies the US taxpayers have paid for around the world.  Including a lot more than $400 million of free airplanes.  Maybe it's time we got some back...  Call it a modest "thank you" for spending $billions keeping the sea lanes open for their oil.

 

And I am glad to see Boeing feel the pressure and shame, so maybe they'll get their house in order and start delivering stuff on time and not stuff that falls out of the sky.

 

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14 minutes ago, LosLobo said:

Retrofitting a 747 into Air Force One would cost at least $400 million, how would DOGE like that?

 

No clue here...  Call Big Balls and ask.

 

But given that it was custom built for Qatari royals, I suspect it's already got a lot of the bells and whistles.

 

BTW, Boeing agreed to $3.9 billion for 2 of them, so bringing one in for $400 million of modifications seems like quite the deal.  Even to Boeing, who is claiming to be losing a few $billion since it was a fixed price contract.  They may be real happy they don't have to produce the 2nd at such a loss.

 

Air Force One debacle: Boeing has now lost more than $1 billion on each of the president’s two new jets | CNN Business

 

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9 minutes ago, Jingthing said:

The most corrupt "president" in American history (it's not even close) strikes again.

 

I saw that.  He was on the View and BBC just last week.  Lots of Dems aren't too happy about that...

 

 

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48 minutes ago, impulse said:

 

No clue here...  Call Big Balls and ask.

 

But given that it was custom built for Qatari royals, I suspect it's already got a lot of the bells and whistles.

 


The Qatari 747-8i, delivered in 2012 and entered service in 2015, was custom-built for VIP transport. It includes luxury interiors, advanced commercial communications, and likely basic self-defense features.

However, it lacks core Air Force One capabilities such as EMP shielding, aerial refueling, military-grade communications, and advanced countermeasures.
 

To meet U.S. presidential standards, it would require an estimated $400–700 million in upgrades, including defense systems, secure comms, and structural modifications.
 

In short: it’s a high-end airframe and a strong platform, but not mission-ready out of the box — and definitely not a free ride.

Your suspect is very suspect!

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1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

I saw that.  He was on the View and BBC just last week.  Lots of Dems aren't too happy about that...

 

 

This shows desperation to deflect. Not a good sign.

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7 hours ago, stevenl said:

This shows desperation to deflect. Not a good sign.

So let’s see……donney jr selling audiences with dad for 500k a pop,the crypto grift gig,now the religion of peace offering a free luxury 747 to Donnie…….it is breathtaking in its scope the absolute corruption is indeed breathtaking to behold.ya gotta admit it’s a step up from selling Chinese bibles,sneakers,and cartoons of himself!wonder when the hunter Biden laptop brigade are going to chime in…..

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12 hours ago, LosLobo said:

In short: it’s a high-end airframe and a strong platform, but not mission-ready out of the box — and definitely not a free ride.

Your suspect is very suspect!

 

I said it's got a lot of the bells and whistles.  Not all of them.  And $400 million sounds a lot cheaper than the $1.95 billion we're paying Boeing. 

 

Besides, $400 million for an aircraft you actually get sounds better than $3.9 billion for 2 that you don't.

 

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12 hours ago, stevenl said:
13 hours ago, impulse said:

I saw that.  He was on the View and BBC just last week.  Lots of Dems aren't too happy about that...

This shows desperation to deflect. Not a good sign.

 

It does show desperation, but not to deflect.  It's desperation on the part of the Dems who wish Biden would just go away.

 

It's even got its own thread:

 

Are we taking bets on how many midterm candidates will be asking Biden to stump for them?  Other than Republicans, I mean.  They'd be thrilled to see him on the campaign trail.  Dems, not so thrilled.

 

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1 hour ago, impulse said:

 

It does show desperation, but not to deflect.  It's desperation on the part of the Dems who wish Biden would just go away.

 

It's even got its own thread:

 

Are we taking bets on how many midterm candidates will be asking Biden to stump for them?  Other than Republicans, I mean.  They'd be thrilled to see him on the campaign trail.  Dems, not so thrilled.

 

Not related at all to a qatari 747 gift to trump. So yes, desperation.

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First question. Is this given to trump personally , or is it given to the president? and would be the property of the US after trump leaves office?  

Second, it can never be used as a presidential plane because of the obvious security concerns. This lane was in possession and control of a foreign goverment. Even the current Air Force one, if it was under the control of a foreign goverment, would not be able to be of use again as a presidential plane, because even after you did the most extensive sweep, you still cant  say with absolute certainty that it is 100% secure. 

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See?  No more slinking in the shadows, no more multi-layered and conflicting alibis/excuses/fictional comments or callow backtracking, now he can say it straight out.  Bold as Mussolini!The sun shines upon American kleptocracy, bold and brave.  MAGA baby! 

 

U.S. President Donald Trump dismissed ethical concerns about his plan to accept an airplane as a gift from the Qatari royal family, saying on Monday it would be "stupid" to turn down the generous offer.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/white-house-confirms-qatar-offered-plane-us-2025-05-12/

 

Waiting for his SCOTUS stooges to come to his defense.  But it seems there's a few surprises:

https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/12/media/maga-media-shapiro-loomer-levin-trump-qatar-plane-gift

 

Just another man trying to provide for his family:  he has a very good brain and he makes good television.

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