Markets Rebound as US and China agree to slash tariffs for 90 days

[candide]

15 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

What is it with your links that never open?

Any live video from real people to back up your claims?

Why is it that you cannot open any link? It's not my link, it's Mike Hunt's link. I just copied and pasted it. 🤣

 

I don't think there is a spell on me, but to make sure, try to open the link from his post. 

[ThreeCardMonte]

3 minutes ago, candide said:

Why is it that you cannot open any link? It's not my link, it's Mike Hunt's link. I just copied and pasted it. 🤣

 

I don't think there is a spell on me, but to make sure, try to open the link from his post. 

Why you make everything complicated?

 

Too much hassle searching for the lost link.

[candide]

14 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Why you make everything complicated?

 

Too much hassle searching for the lost link.

Lol! It's the  post I quoted. 

[kimothai]

4 hours ago, candide said:

B.S. I did not cheery pick anything. That's the latest available list of polls about the economy by RCP, a RW leaning site. And I always put a link so that other people can check it. 🤣

 

Yes, approval ratings vary over time according to respondents' perceptions. The proof being that the same polls were showing a positive approval two months ago!

 

Cherry pick or not they are still outdated. My original post was not about defending or complaining about Trump. It was to say that people (usually the left) who only complain and never give credit when credit is due are simply people who cry wolf and after continuous complaining they just become irrelevant and in some cases become a laughing stock. (or as I stated "a car alarm that that nobody pays attention to).

[GanDoonToonPet]

On 5/13/2025 at 2:52 AM, GanDoonToonPet said:

So the USD, and in turn the THB, will strengthen tomorrow? Just wondering because I need to change / transfer some GBP this week 🤔

 

On 5/13/2025 at 3:34 AM, nauseus said:

 

Pound is up a touch, 44 maybe in the morning?

 

You were right 🤪

 

Rose to 44.1 yesterday but by the time I'd had my morning coffees and checked, it had gone down to 43.8. Woke up about an hour ago as couldn't sleep so thought I'd take a peek. Nailed it at 44.2 or almost a cool 22k THB 😂

[frank83628]

18 hours ago, Colki said:

I find some comments quite astounding. Americans will pay a 30% Trump tax on Chinese made goods and you say he is a master negotiator. 

 

Could you please explain the logic of your claims.

10% on goods, 20% is there to stop the fentanyl 

[frank83628]

17 hours ago, johnnybangkok said:

Markets go down - MAGA's ok as Trump has a plan 

Markets go up - MAGA's gloat it was all part of the 'big plan' even though it's still worse than what it was before Trump got involved.

 

When people can't even see that all is happening is he is creating the problem to then ride in on a white steed to proclaim he's solved the problem (and one more time for the hard of comprehension - the problem HE started) whilst still not actually solving the problem (remember it was supposed to be about trade deficits and re-shoring jobs) then I think you economically illiterate fans should start listening to ANYONE who is rightly complaining. 

See above...

When people complain, no matter what, they just become (as per Fetterman) a car alarm that nobody pays attention to. 

[frank83628]

16 hours ago, Presnock said:

Yes, and you can safely bet that all of them were able to use those few dollars that they didn't have to pay to the tax man where as the rich people are not really hampered by and tax savings while they go about their spending.  a totally different game for the poor and not so well off.  Just like Trump learning about a possible recession - IF one does occur then it will not affect him nor the other rich people as they will still have money to spend wildly if desired but the lower paid people may be out of a job as their small business might be forced to close or even some big businesses are having problems too and while they are talking, nothing has been put in writing as to finished details of a new trade agreement - exactly like that with the UK, they claimed to have settled but then said it would be months probably before the finall writiten agreement was done and signed by both countries.

Captian negative

[frank83628]

15 hours ago, Paul Henry said:

Yagoda,People won't finish up with egg on their face eggs are too expensive.Claims he will drop drug prices by 90% same as he said about eggs.Another gross exaggeration by the words consumate liar in chief.Not even Trump knows why he lies and exaggerates so much.It really must be an illness.

Prices have dropped. All over.

The rest of your comment is just libtard whining.

[bubblegum]

I wish all the AN members who are living in the USA a Merry Christmas, if you can afford it.

[TedG]

9 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

Who said we’re paying 30% more for anything?

 

I haven’t seen any news articles that Americans are paying 30% more than they were a month or two ago.

 

Have you?

Leftists fear mongering is unrelenting!

 

I'm paying 20% more for items after four years of Joe Biden. 

[TedG]

43 minutes ago, bubblegum said:

I wish all the AN members who are living in the USA a Merry Christmas, if you can afford it.

It's May.   

[Paul Henry]

Frank83628 is so faroff the mark.Derogatory comments are a weak persons retort.I am far from a liberal I believe in facts.honesty and decency.You claim prices have dropped is a pure figment of your imagination.

Show us the receipts of your erroneous claims.All data both Government and private proves you wrong.

Look forward to you responding without insults to prove me wrong.

[nauseus]

3 hours ago, GanDoonToonPet said:

 

 

You were right 🤪

 

Rose to 44.1 yesterday but by the time I'd had my morning coffees and checked, it had gone down to 43.8. Woke up about an hour ago as couldn't sleep so thought I'd take a peek. Nailed it at 44.2 or almost a cool 22k THB 😂

 

I think Kerry does deliver cases of beer.

[Presnock]

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Prices have dropped. All over.

The rest of your comment is just libtard whining.

Obviously you have been listening to the wrong/incorrect news clips - I have relatives and friends in different states and NONE of them indicates and lower prices ..yeah some say that gas is now lower but that usually happens as an economy starts dragging down and people no longer are doing a lot of driving - why? because of the lack of funds to just waste on driving around or on vacation.  Some things as they become more scarce (as the eggs did at first after culling the hens) then prices go up and that is what is happening already.  Now no ships delivering many items so girls won't even be able to get two dolls or no 5 pencils available either  But el presidente will have a 400 million dollar plane that won't allow him to fly on it as the president must use an "official" US presidential aircraft!

[Presnock]

19 hours ago, Presnock said:

Yes, and you can safely bet that all of them were able to use those few dollars that they didn't have to pay to the tax man where as the rich people are not really hampered by and tax savings while they go about their spending.  a totally different game for the poor and not so well off.  Just like Trump learning about a possible recession - IF one does occur then it will not affect him nor the other rich people as they will still have money to spend wildly if desired but the lower paid people may be out of a job as their small business might be forced to close or even some big businesses are having problems too and while they are talking, nothing has been put in writing as to finished details of a new trade agreement - exactly like that with the UK, they claimed to have settled but then said it would be months probably before the finall writiten agreement was done and signed by both countries.

Yes as an American taxpayer for over 60 years, I am well aware of any tax cuts when it comes time to fill out the 1040's!

[stevenl]

10 hours ago, frank83628 said:

If you had brains you'd have invested during the dip..... 

If you were a decent poster you'd refrain from flaming.

[stevenl]

47 minutes ago, Paul Henry said:

Look forward to you responding without insults to prove me wrong

No chance of that happening.

[frank83628]

7 minutes ago, Presnock said:

Obviously you have been listening to the wrong/incorrect news clips - I have relatives and friends in different states and NONE of them indicates and lower prices ..yeah some say that gas is now lower but that usually happens as an economy starts dragging down and people no longer are doing a lot of driving - why? because of the lack of funds to just waste on driving around or on vacation.  Some things as they become more scarce (as the eggs did at first after culling the hens) then prices go up and that is what is happening already.  Now no ships delivering many items so girls won't even be able to get two dolls or no 5 pencils available either  But el presidente will have a 400 million dollar plane that won't allow him to fly on it as the president must use an "official" US presidential aircraft!

What a load of nonsense that was. 

Two dolls or no5 pencils?? ..... lifes essentials!!

[frank83628]

31 minutes ago, stevenl said:

If you were a decent poster you'd refrain from flaming.

Flaming? Don't play the victim just because you didnt like what I said. You were implying that some people, ie trumps & co made a lot of money, well, you could have done it also if you were involved in stocks, but you're clearly not, so you were just complainng about something that doesn't effect you in any way.

[johnnybangkok]

3 hours ago, frank83628 said:

See above...

When people complain, no matter what, they just become (as per Fetterman) a car alarm that nobody pays attention to. 

We would certainly rather not pay attention to you and your 'Trump is never wrong!' modus operandi, but since you seem compelled to insert yourself in every conversation and denigrate anyone with a differing opinion as some left wing lunatic, we unfortunately have to listen to your absurd assertions time and time again. They never come with any facts. They don't have any figures and have only a tenuous grasp of any reality the vast majority of us are seeing and living in. But that's the cross you've chosen to die on so expect the more coherent and sensible on here to pull your nonsense up every single time.

 

So one last time (not necessarily for you as I know you won't listen). Trump starting all this tariff nonsense, he was the one that poked the bear. When markets reacted (especially the bond markets) he was forced into (yet another) backtrack of his ill-fated plan. Off he trots, cap in hand to China. Desperate for a deal (The Art of The Deal my a$$) he needed to show his 'genius' was going to be good for the American public. In the end he simply backed down and gave China what it wanted and slashed tariffs on Chinese goods from 125% to 10%, for at least 90 days. An earlier additional levy of 20% designed to punish China for its role in the fentanyl trade will remain in place, but its specificity suggests it could be negotiable. America halved a separate 120% tariff on e-commerce packages valued below $800 which enter America via a separate “de-minimis” customs regime (https://www.economist.com/china/2025/05/13/a-great-trade-victory-over-america-is-being-celebrated-in-china). And what did China give in return? A reciprocal 10% on American goods. Some deal making that. And Trump and the Trump loyalists like yourself think for some bizarre reason it's a win. 

 

It reminds me of that rather apt analogy about the pigeon - “Never play chess with a pigeon. The pigeon just knocks all the pieces over, then $hits all over the board and struts around like it won.”

 

   

[Presnock]

2 hours ago, frank83628 said:

What a load of nonsense that was. 

Two dolls or no5 pencils?? ..... lifes essentials!!

well you sound like the president - that is what he said when they cited him and he said that it was just cheap junk anyway and a waste of money.  Yeah if you heard his original comment, mr rich guy says he remembed a young girl with 30 dolls - probably his daughter at a young age  as they were rich and I am sure he bought whatever she wanted for Xmas. IMHO but who is he to determine what one would buy as a Xmas present for their kids - what everyone is trying to wake him up to see that people instead of having great jobs and lots of money, they won't have any money to buy anything or that the shelves will be empty to begin with.  IMHO typical rich guy could care less what the economy does as he is rich and can afford whatever he wants anyway so who cares about the poor, as they are nothing but losers in his mind.