Huge crowd piles pressure on Dutch government to seek an end to Israel's campaign in Gaza

[ChaiyaTH]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    You have changed the subject .

We were talking about civilian deaths 

You must be delusional to even write this. Even on death count VS population or even regardless of it, this is applicable

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, ChaiyaTH said:

You must be delusional to even write this. Even on death count VS population or even regardless of it, this is applicable

 

   The normal rate of civilian casualties in wars is about 90 %

The rate of civilian casualties in the Gaza war is about 60 %

[bannork]

 British Foreign Secretary David Lammy told the U.K. Parliament Tuesday that "opposing the expansion of a war that has killed thousands of children is not rewarding Hamas." He called Israel's aid blockade "cruel and indefensible" and said "the world is judging" Netanyahu's government. Israeli opposition lawmaker Yair Golan told Israeli public radio Tuesday that unless it starts "behaving like a sane country" again, "Israel is on the path to becoming a pariah state."

Israel's Western allies pull back amid Gaza escalation

[Bkk Brian]

7 hours ago, bannork said:

Let's see, so far the British PM and Foreign Minister, Spanish PM, Canadian PN and French President have criticised Israel's actions in Gaza strongly. 

Thousands of demonstrators marched through London last weekend and The Hague.

Israel's actions of mass bombings resulting in huge civilian casualties, plus the seemingly deliberate policy of starvation under Netanayu, has resulted in Israel's reputation taking a nosedive.

Once seen as a civilised nation, with respect earned as a nation born from the Holocaust, it is now seen as no better than Hamas, brutal and merciless.  

So when not hiding behind linked quotes the veil slips and outed. A true Hamas apologist making comparisons between Israel and Hamas. While in Gaza they protest for the third day running against Hamas but apologist activists in the west condemn Israel.

 

Third day in a row Protests in Southern Gaza Challenge Hamas Amid Rising Discontent

 

[Bkk Brian]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

 British Foreign Secretary David Lammy told the U.K. Parliament Tuesday that "opposing the expansion of a war that has killed thousands of children is not rewarding Hamas." He called Israel's aid blockade "cruel and indefensible" and said "the world is judging" Netanyahu's government. Israeli opposition lawmaker Yair Golan told Israeli public radio Tuesday that unless it starts "behaving like a sane country" again, "Israel is on the path to becoming a pariah state."

Israel's Western allies pull back amid Gaza escalation

Hamas agrees with Lammy and thanks him. Hamas licking their lips........

 

Hamas terrorists say Britain’s stance is ‘principled’. Are we proud of ourselves?
We are betraying a good friend to appease people who hate everything we stand for.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2025/05/20/britain-israel-hamas-lammy-idf-gaza-campaign/

https://archive.ph/n2gQG

 

[Bkk Brian]

9 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

 

The rulings are contained within the bloody articles!!!

 

Listen, it is common knowledge that Israel have broken/are breaking international laws - both criminal and humanitarian. There are arrest warrants out for both Netanyahu and the leaders of Hamas.

 

The fact is that Israel has broken/is breaking International Humanitarian Law as applicable to an occupying force. It has also broken the law on rules of combat that state that a civillian population must not be targeted.

 

I've debated with people like you before and I'm pretty sure that even if I delivered the actual rulings to your door, you would not back down and apologise. I am quite happy that I am correct in that Israel have/are breaking both International Humanitarian Law and the rules on combat.

 

I am not in the habit of debating facts with someone who, even if the law was in front of them, would still argue with it.  I have work to do, thanks.

There are arrest warrants out for both Netanyahu and the leaders of Hamas.

 

Nope, the leaders of Hamas are all dead, no arrest warrants needed for them and as for the arrest warrant for Netanyahu, don't hold your breath on that. Second thoughts, give it a go..............

 

ICC prosecutor Khan on leave amid sexual misconduct probe

https://www.reuters.com/world/icc-prosecutor-khan-leave-amid-sexual-misconduct-probe-court-sources-say-2025-05-16/

[Evil Penevil]

16 hours ago, MangoKorat said:

There are arrest warrants out for both Netanyahu and the leaders of Hamas.

 

7 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

Nope, the leaders of Hamas are all dead, no arrest warrants needed for them ...

 

@Bkk Brianis correct.  The ICC was in a bit of a bind when it came to arrest warrants over the Gaza conflict.  It would be absurd to issue warrants for Israel's leaders for their response to the Oct. 7 Hamas attacks while not issuing warrants for the perpetrators of the attacks.  However, ICC warrants for the leaders of Hamas would require South Africa, Ireland, Spain and other Hamas-friendly countries to apprehend those leaders and that would place those countries in a very awkward position.  They absolutely don't want to arrest the leaders of Hamas.  Placing warrants on dead Hamas leaders gives the impression the ICC is putting equal pressure on both sides of the Gaza conflict while not requiring signatories of the Treaty of Rome to actually arrest active Hamas leaders.

[Hamus Yaigh]

On 5/20/2025 at 11:13 PM, mogandave said:

So you’re okay with the eradication of Israel?

When Israel has turned from getting unprecedented support after Oct-2023 to international pariah, you've got an Israeli ex-general saying that Israel is 'killing children for a hobby', it must stir your emotions if you have any?

[Bkk Brian]

2 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

When Israel has turned from getting unprecedented support after Oct-2023 to international pariah, you've got an Israeli ex-general saying that Israel is 'killing children for a hobby', it must stir your emotions if you have any?

He's an opposition MP its his job to stir emotions for the gullible with wild false claims

[billd766]

9 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said:

 

 

@Bkk Brianis correct.  The ICC was in a bit of a bind when it came to arrest warrants over the Gaza conflict.  It would be absurd to issue warrants for Israel's leaders for their response to the Oct. 7 Hamas attacks while not issuing warrants for the perpetrators of the attacks.  However, ICC warrants for the leaders of Hamas would require South Africa, Ireland, Spain and other Hamas-friendly countries to apprehend those leaders and that would place those countries in a very awkward position.  They absolutely don't want to arrest the leaders of Hamas.  Placing warrants on dead Hamas leaders gives the impression the ICC is putting equal pressure on both sides of the Gaza conflict while not requiring signatories of the Treaty of Rome to actually arrest active Hamas leaders.

And what kind of a situation would it put the USA in, whose government (not the people of the USA) under Trump is fully committed to supporting Israel.

 

It will make NO difference at all, as both Israel and the USA are NOT signatories of the ICC and simply ignore any ICC rulings.

[Bkk Brian]

10 minutes ago, billd766 said:

And what kind of a situation would it put the USA in, whose government (not the people of the USA) under Trump is fully committed to supporting Israel.

 

It will make NO difference at all, as both Israel and the USA are NOT signatories of the ICC and simply ignore any ICC rulings.

What do you mean not the people of the USA? & whether or not Israel or the US are signatories makes no difference to arrest warrants.

 

 

 

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[Evil Penevil]

1 hour ago, billd766 said:

And what kind of a situation would it put the USA in, whose government (not the people of the USA) under Trump is fully committed to supporting Israel.

 

It will make NO difference at all, as both Israel and the USA are NOT signatories of the ICC and simply ignore any ICC rulings.

 

It's true the U.S. and Israel aren't parties to the ICC and therefore aren't bound to honor ICC warrants.  The point is what effect an ICC warrant on a Hamas leader would have on countries which ARE parties to the ICC.  Would South Africa or Ireland or Spain arrest a leader of Hamas?

 

South Africa most likely wouldn't,  About five months before the Oct. 7 attack, South Africa announced plans to withdraw from the ICC because of the warrant on Russian leader Putin.

 

South Africa to try to withdraw from ICC again - Ramaphosa

JOHANNESBURG, April 25 (Reuters) - South Africa's governing African National Congress will aim to repeal the country's membership of the International Criminal Court (ICC), President Cyril Ramaphosa said on Tuesday, the second time it has attempted to do so.

The party's decision at a weekend meeting of its national executive committee came after the ICC issued an arrest warrant on March 17 against Russian President Vladimir Putin, accusing him of the war crime of illegally deporting hundreds of children from Ukraine.

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/south-africa-try-withdraw-icc-again-ramaphosa-2023-04-25/

 

[bannork]

Speaking to the Israeli public radio station Reshet Bet, Golan — a former general — said Israel was becoming a pariah state and cautioned that “a sane country doesn’t engage in fighting against civilians, doesn’t kill babies as a hobby and doesn’t set for itself the goals of expelling a population.”

After the outcry, he said he was referring to the conduct of Israel’s far-right government in his remarks, not of its soldiers.

Israeli politician critiques the Gaza war's toll on Palestinians and sparks an outcry

[Bkk Brian]

4 minutes ago, bannork said:

Speaking to the Israeli public radio station Reshet Bet, Golan — a former general — said Israel was becoming a pariah state and cautioned that “a sane country doesn’t engage in fighting against civilians, doesn’t kill babies as a hobby and doesn’t set for itself the goals of expelling a population.”

After the outcry, he said he was referring to the conduct of Israel’s far-right government in his remarks, not of its soldiers.

Israeli politician critiques the Gaza war's toll on Palestinians and sparks an outcry

That was already posted. More desperation from a hamas apologist.

2 hours ago, Bkk Brian said:

He's an opposition MP its his job to stir emotions for the gullible with wild false claims

 

[Yellowtail]

3 hours ago, Hamus Yaigh said:

When Israel has turned from getting unprecedented support after Oct-2023 to international pariah, you've got an Israeli ex-general saying that Israel is 'killing children for a hobby', it must stir your emotions if you have any?

So you’re okay with the eradication of Israel?

[Yellowtail]

59 minutes ago, bannork said:

Speaking to the Israeli public radio station Reshet Bet, Golan — a former general — said Israel was becoming a pariah state and cautioned that “a sane country doesn’t engage in fighting against civilians, doesn’t kill babies as a hobby and doesn’t set for itself the goals of expelling a population.”

After the outcry, he said he was referring to the conduct of Israel’s far-right government in his remarks, not of its soldiers.

Israeli politician critiques the Gaza war's toll on Palestinians and sparks an outcry

So you’re okay with the eradication of Israel?

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