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1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

You mean like shutting down the open border and deporting illegals. Said he'd do it and he's done it and doing it. Do you think this is a bad thing? MAHA. Being done. DOGE. Cutting billions in waste. DEI. Getting that done. Men out of women's sport's. Well that's been signed off. From what's been happening Trump seems to be a very rare example of a politician actually doing what they campaigned on.

Remember Joe was going to raise taxes on billionaires? 

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11 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Remember Joe was going to raise taxes on billionaires? 

 

Yes, but there are ways billionaires get around this.

Offhsore havens.

And ... sometimes they just move to another country. 

Apple set up in Ireland because of low taxes. So loss of jobs in the US. 

 

And ... Elon is a billionaire that is using his money for projects that benefit people, in my opinion. The average human being cannot undertake massive projects. So in some cases like Elon, billionaires might be a good thing. 

 

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8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Remember Joe was going to raise taxes on billionaires? 

 

 

You can't raise taxes on billionaires unless a wealth tax is implemented.    But, wealth taxes don't work. 

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4 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

 

Yes, but there are ways billionaires get around this.

Offhsore havens.

And ... sometimes they just move to another country. 

Apple set up in Ireland because of low taxes. So loss of jobs in the US. 

 

And ... Elon is a billionaire that is using his money for projects that benefit people, in my opinion. The average human being cannot undertake massive projects. So in some cases like Elon, billionaires might be a good thing. 

 

Billionaires and their lawyers are typically smarter than government employees. 

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11 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Billionaires and their lawyers are typically smarter than government employees. 

 

They have a moral responsibility to do sth with their massive wealth.

Elon seems like he's doing projects to help humanity.

Bill Gates is hated because of vaccines? But didn't he spend a fortune trying to find a cure for malaria? 

Not sure what Jeff Bezos is doing. 

 

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Just now, save the frogs said:

 

They have a moral responsibility to do sth with their massive wealth.

Elon seems like he's doing projects to help humanity.

Bill Gates is hated because of vaccines? But didn't he spend a fortune trying to find a cure for malaria? 

Not sure what Jeff Bezos is doing. 

 

They do not have a moral responsibility to do anything, just because they are wealthy. They have a moral responsibility to pay whatever taxes they cannot legally avoid. 

 

Didn't Jeff Bezos give us Amazon? Why is that not enough? 

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7 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

What is a user tax, VAT? 

 

The more you use the more tax you pay. Someone who owns a 10 million dollar home etc vs a person living day to day in an apartment. 

 

There should be no outs or loopholes. 

 

 

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11 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Didn't Jeff Bezos give us Amazon? Why is that not enough? 

You could make that argument I suppose.

 

But my guess is loads of people hate the MAGA team just because of the whiff of money surrounding that administration. Regardless of what they do. A lot of people just resent and do not trust very wealthy people. 

 

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31 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

You mean like shutting down the open border and deporting illegals. Said he'd do it and he's done it and doing it. Do you think this is a bad thing? MAHA. Being done. DOGE. Cutting billions in waste. DEI. Getting that done. Men out of women's sport's. Well that's been signed off. From what's been happening Trump seems to be a very rare example of a politician actually doing what they campaigned on.

The "they are all the same" narrative well and truly blown out of the water.

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1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

You could make that argument I suppose.

 

But my guess is loads of people hate the MAGA team just because of the whiff of money surrounding that administration. Regardless of what they do. A lot of people just resent and do not trust very wealthy people. 

 

Yet the Democrats are now the party of the rich. Harris outspent Trump by more than two to one. 

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3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Yet the Democrats are now the party of the rich. Harris outspent Trump by more than two to one. 

 

She also trotted out her own line up of billionaires during the campaign .

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1 hour ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

This should be funded at the state and local level. 

Fine idea.  

 

Republicans might get a big shock, though, when the bills come home and they find the richer Democtratic States that fund the Federal budget, are not subsidising their spending.

 

PH

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2 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

Fine idea.  

 

Republicans might get a big shock, though, when the bills come home and they find the richer Democtratic States that fund the Federal budget, are not subsidising their spending.

 

PH

I doubt anyone paying attention will be shocked. 

 

Parents should pay for their kid's meals. 

 

If some kids are going to get free lunches, all kids should get free lunches. 

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14 minutes ago, Phulublub said:

Fine idea.  

 

Republicans might get a big shock, though, when the bills come home and they find the richer Democtratic States that fund the Federal budget, are not subsidising their spending.

 

PH

This is another dumb talking point. 

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