Putin didn’t budge in Ukraine peace talks. Now Donald Trump may be forced to act

[Mike_Hunt]

4 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Ok, so, all the BS talk of invading Europe should be laughed at then. 

 

Russia would not be able to handle the logistics of invading Europe.

[frank83628]

10 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Russia would not be able to handle the logistics of invading Europe.

Russia has no intention, its doesn't even want All of Ukraine. Despite the BS media saying otherwise

[Mike_Hunt]

6 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

Russia has no intention, its doesn't even want All of Ukraine. Despite the BS media saying otherwise

 

Russia should not be in Ukraine.  

[BLMFem]

Well, TACO is served and Trump is cementing his position as Putin's lapdog.

Traitor.

 

Hegseth will skip a meeting on organizing military aid to Ukraine in a first for the US

 

"For the first time since the U.S. created an international group to coordinate military aid to Ukraine three years ago, America's Pentagon chief will not be in attendance when more than 50 other defense leaders meet Wednesday."

[BLMFem]

Trump is obviously in regular contact with Putin. I guess that due to his obvious mental decline he needs frequent reminders from the boss on what his orders are.

 

Trump says Putin told him in phone call he will respond to Ukraine’s weekend drone attacks

 

"The leaders’ conversation was their second time speaking in a matter of weeks. Trump, who announced the call afterward in a post on Truth Social, made no mention of applying pressure on the Russian leader to agree to a ceasefire, or to calibrate his reprisal for Ukraine’s audacious drone attack on Russian airfields over the weekend."

[bannork]

Lindsey, etc threatening to arm the unwilling Donald:

 

RBC-Ukraine has already reported that the US Senate is ready to approve a bill on tough sanctions against Russia if the Russian dictator Vladimir Putin does not demonstrate a desire for peace.

 

The sanctions will take effect if Russia refuses to enter into good-faith negotiations for sustainable peace with Ukraine or attempts to undermine Ukrainian sovereignty after reaching a peace agreement, including through new military aggression.

 

Additionally, the law imposes a 500% tariff on imports of goods from countries that continue to purchaseRussian oil, gas, uranium, and other resources.

'Will not be carrots': US Senate prepares tough tools for Trump against Putin

[frank83628]

On 6/3/2025 at 11:00 PM, Mike_Hunt said:

 

Russia should not be in Ukraine.  

The US shouldn't have ousted the democratically elected leader back in 2014 then, or gone against both minsk agreements. 

[Mike_Hunt]

1 minute ago, frank83628 said:

The US shouldn't have ousted the democratically elected leader back in 2014 then, or gone against both minsk agreements. 

 

Russia should not have invaded Ukraine. 

[Mike_Hunt]

2 minutes ago, frank83628 said:

The US shouldn't have ousted the democratically elected leader back in 2014 then, or gone against both minsk agreements. 

The agreement failed to stop fighting.[5] At the start of January 2015, Russia sent another large batch of its regular military.[2] Following the Russian victory at Donetsk International Airport in defiance of the Protocol, Russia repeated its pattern of August 2014, invaded with fresh forces and attacked Ukrainian forces at Debaltseve, where Ukraine suffered a major defeat, and was forced to sign a Package of Measures for the Implementation of the Minsk Agreements, or Minsk II,[2] which was signed on 12 February 2015.[6] This agreement consisted of a package of measures, including a ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line, release of prisoners of war, constitutional reform in Ukraine granting self-government to certain areas of Donbas and restoring control of the state border to the Ukrainian government. While fighting subsided following the agreement's signing, it never ended completely, and the agreement's provisions were never fully implemented.[7] The former German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier suggested a mechanism of granting an autonomy to Eastern Donbas only after "the OSCE certified that the local elections had followed international standards", called the Steinmeier formula.[8]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

[frank83628]

6 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

The agreement failed to stop fighting.[5] At the start of January 2015, Russia sent another large batch of its regular military.[2] Following the Russian victory at Donetsk International Airport in defiance of the Protocol, Russia repeated its pattern of August 2014, invaded with fresh forces and attacked Ukrainian forces at Debaltseve, where Ukraine suffered a major defeat, and was forced to sign a Package of Measures for the Implementation of the Minsk Agreements, or Minsk II,[2] which was signed on 12 February 2015.[6] This agreement consisted of a package of measures, including a ceasefire, withdrawal of heavy weapons from the front line, release of prisoners of war, constitutional reform in Ukraine granting self-government to certain areas of Donbas and restoring control of the state border to the Ukrainian government. While fighting subsided following the agreement's signing, it never ended completely, and the agreement's provisions were never fully implemented.[7] The former German Foreign Minister Frank-Walter Steinmeier suggested a mechanism of granting an autonomy to Eastern Donbas only after "the OSCE certified that the local elections had followed international standards", called the Steinmeier formula.[8]

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements

Oh, wikipedia....well that showed me didn't it, the totally factual site has spoken. Must be true!!🙄

[frank83628]

10 hours ago, bannork said:

Lindsey, etc threatening to arm the unwilling Donald:

 

RBC-Ukraine has already reported that the US Senate is ready to approve a bill on tough sanctions against Russia if the Russian dictator Vladimir Putin does not demonstrate a desire for peace.

 

The sanctions will take effect if Russia refuses to enter into good-faith negotiations for sustainable peace with Ukraine or attempts to undermine Ukrainian sovereignty after reaching a peace agreement, including through new military aggression.

 

Additionally, the law imposes a 500% tariff on imports of goods from countries that continue to purchaseRussian oil, gas, uranium, and other resources.

'Will not be carrots': US Senate prepares tough tools for Trump against Putin

The exact reason BRICS was formed, the US dishing out sanctions over something thatnis nothing to do with them.

Graham is a neocon war hawk, he is going behind trumps back, he is a RINO. Stuck in the cold war mentality, just like some here.

[Digitalbanana]

When Trump said he phoned Putin and described his war with Ukraine as like two school kids fighting in a park that need to be left to carry on a little longer, this is like putty in Putin's hands, he knows there is a child like mind running the Oval Office.

 

This oversimplified analogy, combined with Trump’s reluctance to impose new sanctions or military aid to Ukraine, could embolden Putin, who may perceive a less assertive or naive counterpart in the Oval Office, giving him leverage to prolong the war or push aggressive terms.

[BLMFem]

3 hours ago, Digitalbanana said:

When Trump said he phoned Putin and described his war with Ukraine as like two school kids fighting in a park that need to be left to carry on a little longer, this is like putty in Putin's hands, he knows there is a child like mind running the Oval Office.

 

This oversimplified analogy, combined with Trump’s reluctance to impose new sanctions or military aid to Ukraine, could embolden Putin, who may perceive a less assertive or naive counterpart in the Oval Office, giving him leverage to prolong the war or push aggressive terms.

Putin playing the orange TACO like a fiddle, and everyone can see it.

Pathetic.

[Mike_Hunt]

9 hours ago, frank83628 said:

Oh, wikipedia....well that showed me didn't it, the totally factual site has spoken. Must be true!!🙄

 

Is it incorrect? 

[Mike_Hunt]

9 hours ago, frank83628 said:

The exact reason BRICS was formed, the US dishing out sanctions over something thatnis nothing to do with them.

Graham is a neocon war hawk, he is going behind trumps back, he is a RINO. Stuck in the cold war mentality, just like some here.

Is Putin a war hawk? Or a war monger? 

[JakeC]

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Russia has no intention, its doesn't even want All of Ukraine. Despite the BS media saying otherwise

 

 

You need to stop parroting that 💩 and wake up!

 

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When asked by a journalist about Russiaʼs concessions in the context of a peace agreement, Trump said that Russia would have to give up all of Ukraine.

He said this in an interview with NBC News on May 4.

"Russia will have to give up all of Ukraine. Because Russia wants all of Ukraine. And if I hadnʼt intervened, they would have continued to fight for all of Ukraine right now. Russia doesnʼt just need the piece it has now, it needs all of Ukraine," the US president said.

 

How can you be so obtuse? That's your man Trump saying so.

[JakeC]

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Oh, wikipedia....well that showed me didn't it, the totally factual site has spoken. Must be true!!🙄

 

So post your published version of the events that took place. I guess you prefer your entirely fabricated version, backed up with nothing but hot air.

 

 

[frank83628]

1 hour ago, JakeC said:

 

So post your published version of the events that took place. I guess you prefer your entirely fabricated version, backed up with nothing but hot air.

 

 

I have written it many times, as have others. you all deny it because cnn told you different, its like talking to brick wall, only dumber

[JakeC]

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I have written it many times, as have others. you all deny it because cnn told you different, its like talking to brick wall, only dumber

 

Are you genuinely this obtuse?

I didn't ask for your made up version. Just a recounting of the actual events by a respected publication. Not one sided, but one that describes events and actions by BOTH sides.

Have you published such a link many times? I haven't ever seen it.

CNN? What has that to do with me? 

You strike me as the kind of person who wants to appear to have won the argument, rather having any interest in uncovering the actual truth. 

Are you interested in the truth or do you prefer your fictional version of events, expressly for children?

An intelligent person looks at both sides of the coin. Whereas you appear to have added 2 and 2 together and made 22, No one can convince you that there might be another possibility. Not intelligent.

 

P.S. I note that you fell silent about this: 

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Russia has no intention, its doesn't even want All of Ukraine. Despite the BS media saying otherwise

 

when I pointed to the evidence of your Donald saying it.

 

So hard for you to admit that you are wrong.