Recent trip to UK with Qatar air- A very sad, heartbreaking visit.

[georgegeorgia]

17 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You bought an Asian to the UK and you are complaining because British Asians stamped your Asian immigrant into the UK ?

Your a hypocrite,complaining about trans- people,

[youreavinalaff]

15 hours ago, kevozman1 said:

 

I don't even have a big problem with that kind of thing. When I pass through the Gulf Arab countries, most of the workforce are foreigners, mostly South Asians, Africans and Filipinos, but here are the differences to the West - the Gulf Arab states do not hand out passports to these workers like Christmas cards, nor do they allow the foreign workforce to have an entitled attitude. Most of these groups you can't treat nicely as they take advantage - reciprocation and honour are not traits most groups have in high quantities. The Western elite know this also, but they are currently bringing down the quality of life for most people. How low they will drop it I have no idea.

The UK does not hand out passports like Christmas cards either. The route to a passport for workers is long, requires a lot of paperwork and is expensive. Many people stop at the ILR stage.

[Yellowtail]

4 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

The UK does not hand out passports like Christmas cards either. The route to a passport for workers is long, requires a lot of paperwork and is expensive. Many people stop at the ILR stage.

In the US, once they start getting benefits, most lose interest in becoming citizens.

[Kinnock]

20 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

 

   Your Wife is an Immigrant ?

You have an Asian Wife....................and you are complaining about Asian immigrants ?

   You would like the UK Government to place restrictions on Asian immigrants ?

   Do you want your Wife banned from entering the UK ?

 

She applied for a visa and I paid all her costs for her 2 week visit ..... she did not take a rubber boat across the channel then demand a free hotel 

 

And I'm the immigrant, as we live in Thailand, and I applied for the correct visa and brought foreign investment by setting up a BOI company here.

 

I would like the UK government to restrict illegal immigration, and I believe most UK residents (of any ethnic origins) want the same.  

 

[Scouse123]

17 minutes ago, Kinnock said:

She applied for a visa and I paid all her costs for her 2 week visit ..... she did not take a rubber boat across the channel then demand a free hotel 

 

And I'm the immigrant, as we live in Thailand, and I applied for the correct visa and brought foreign investment by setting up a BOI company here.

 

I would like the UK government to restrict illegal immigration, and I believe most UK residents (of any ethnic origins) want the same.  

 

 

Exactly my point.

When I came to Thailand, I did so legally—obtaining the correct visas and bringing sufficient funds. I built homes, bought cars, opened a business, and supported two Thai girls through their education.

 

Their futures, and that of my now-extended family, have improved significantly since I became part of their lives.

 

One is now a nurse, and the other works in Central Bangkok.

 

I’m not asking for gratitude, but I do believe that people who make positive, lawful contributions like this deserve at least to be acknowledged, not mischaracterized.

 

I certaily do not think it's too much to ask that people coming to the UK have something to offer the country and enter by the correct channels, and by that I don't mean the English channel.

[Kinnock]

37 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

 

Exactly my point.

When I came to Thailand, I did so legally—obtaining the correct visas and bringing sufficient funds. I built homes, bought cars, opened a business, and supported two Thai girls through their education.

 

Their futures, and that of my now-extended family, have improved significantly since I became part of their lives.

 

One is now a nurse, and the other works in Central Bangkok.

 

I’m not asking for gratitude, but I do believe that people who make positive, lawful contributions like this deserve at least to be acknowledged, not mischaracterized.

 

I certaily do not think it's too much to ask that people coming to the UK have something to offer the country and enter by the correct channels, and by that I don't mean the English channel.

Agree 100% ..... but I assume the thumb downvote on your post means someone believes making a positive impact on the country where you live is unnecessary and a bad thing?

[Pdavies99]

On 6/7/2025 at 6:44 AM, sirhowie said:

I live in north Manchester and I'm afraid his description is a mirror of how areas have become ghettoes of crime drugs begging.  There are about 80% of the shops either Kabab curry or Turkish barbers far to many to sustain profit legally . The car washes get raided all the time by immigration. Not withstanding that the local Jewish areas have now been taken over by the Asian population and the Jewish population have moved further North. I want to move permanently to Thailand but my thai wife loves the UK so it's three months in the winter in Udon Thani .

so his description isn't racist but a fair description of what it's like living under a Trotsky government and previously under a failed Tory one.

As I mentioned before, I can partly agree with your comments, but really it's up to you where you live in the UK.

 

There are still many great places....likewise there are certainly many parts of Thailand that aren't so good.  Be it racism, poverty, boring area, too hot for some etc. 

 

Noting your comments about the UK, well to compare...living in Thailand, you have to pay annually immigration and that may increase, a overpriced cost to buy European style food products, corrupt police, worlds most dangerous roads etc etc 

 

Sorry but I think more people should look at the positives of the UK and Thailand and stop thinking about how it was!

 

Thailand for many is great and so is the UK for some.

[Nick Carter icp]

3 hours ago, Kinnock said:

She applied for a visa and I paid all her costs for her 2 week visit ..... she did not take a rubber boat across the channel then demand a free hotel 

 

And I'm the immigrant, as we live in Thailand, and I applied for the correct visa and brought foreign investment by setting up a BOI company here.

 

I would like the UK government to restrict illegal immigration, and I believe most UK residents (of any ethnic origins) want the same.  

 

 

   The Asian  immigration staff at Heathrow would not have come to the UK via a boat across the channel .

 They would have been the grandchildren of Asians who came to the UK in the 1960's with working/settlement visas.

   They were born in the UK and have British passports .

The Heathrow staff were NOT illegal immigrants 

[richard_smith237]

16 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   The Asian  immigration staff at Heathrow would not have come to the UK via a boat across the channel .

 They would have been the grandchildren of Asians who came to the UK in the 1960's with working/settlement visas.

   They were born in the UK and have British passports .

The Heathrow staff were NOT illegal immigrants 

 

 

But that won't stop the boomer Alf-Garnets making statements along the lines of ...

 

 

... "I come back to me own bloody country, don't I, and it's a load o’ bleedin’ foreigners sat there, pokin’ about with me passport, tellin’ me whether I can come in or not! I mean, what’s the world comin’ to, eh? I fought for this country – well, me dad did – and now I need flippin’ permission to get in from someone who probably got off the boat last week!"

 

 

[Nick Carter icp]

ASEANNOW Garnett :

   *There's too many bloody Asians living in the UK . That's it I'm leaving , I'm moving to Asia to get away from them * 

[richard_smith237]

3 hours ago, Pdavies99 said:

As I mentioned before, I can partly agree with your comments, but really it's up to you where you live in the UK.

 

There are still many great places....likewise there are certainly many parts of Thailand that aren't so good.  Be it racism, poverty, boring area, too hot for some etc. 

 

Noting your comments about the UK, well to compare...living in Thailand, you have to pay annually immigration and that may increase, a overpriced cost to buy European style food products, corrupt police, worlds most dangerous roads etc etc 

 

Sorry but I think more people should look at the positives of the UK and Thailand and stop thinking about how it was!

 

Thailand for many is great and so is the UK for some.

 

Valid points... But to see that you have 'two down thumbs' indicates the mentality of some of the audience who wish to be vocal but perhaps lack the words to articate their bigotry in a non-bigotted manner...  so thumbs down it is.

 

As you wrote - Thailand is great for many...   but many complain.

The UK is also great for many... but many complain.

 

As the Op wrote - head out of the cities and the UK is a lovely place...   I'm not interested in the cities in the UK, not interested in the slightest, many area's of many cities have been turned into absolute shyat-holes, perhaps due to changes in culture due to immigration, a lack of local pride, an absolute lack of enforcement, disempowerment of the policeforces etc...    The unaffluent area's of many cities and major towns have been taken over what seems to be 'people who are for some reason 'un-policeable'...      and who would be a policeman, when they can get fired for taking a knife of a 15 year-old in a manner some consider excessive (it was not a butter knife !)... 

 

That said,... the UK countryside area's are stunning.... I hope they stay that way, it will be devastating to see them 'evolve' in the same manner cities have, with fly-tipping, the unruly, gangs of lawless youths and police too scared to respond to anything...  but right now, thats not so.

 

So... UK Countryside - amazing !!...   Cities not so.

 

Immigration - who care's what 'race' meets me at boarder-force entry - they are usually polite enough to both myself and my wife... 

 

 

 

 

[Scouse123]

4 hours ago, Kinnock said:

Agree 100% ..... but I assume the thumb downvote on your post means someone believes making a positive impact on the country where you live is unnecessary and a bad thing?

 

We will always get those types on here.

 

3 hours ago, Pdavies99 said:

As I mentioned before, I can partly agree with your comments, but really it's up to you where you live in the UK.

 

 

You speak as if it's a simple task to uproot your life, leave behind family, give up jobs and careers, and move across the country in search of a "better" town or city.

 

Is it our fault that our towns and cities have become unrecognisable, when it's the government that chose to place migrants disproportionately in Northern areas, regions that both past and present governments have long neglected?

 

Your post oversimplifies what, for most people, is an incredibly difficult and complex decision.

 

[Scouse123]

14 minutes ago, richard_smith237 said:

 

Valid points... But to see that you have 'two down thumbs' indicates the mentality of some of the audience who wish to be vocal but perhaps lack the words to articate their bigotry in a non-bigotted manner...  so thumbs down it is.

 

As you wrote - Thailand is great for many...   but many complain.

The UK is also great for many... but many complain.

 

As the Op wrote - head out of the cities and the UK is a lovely place...   I'm not interested in the cities in the UK, not interested in the slightest, many area's of many cities have been turned into absolute shyat-holes, perhaps due to changes in culture due to immigration, a lack of local pride, an absolute lack of enforcement, disempowerment of the policeforces etc...    The unaffluent area's of many cities and major towns have been taken over what seems to be 'people who are for some reason 'un-policeable'...      and who would be a policeman, when they can get fired for taking a knife of a 15 year-old in a manner some consider excessive (it was not a butter knife !)... 

 

That said,... the UK countryside area's are stunning.... I hope they stay that way, it will be devastating to see them 'evolve' in the same manner cities have, with fly-tipping, the unruly, gangs of lawless youths and police too scared to respond to anything...  but right now, thats not so.

 

So... UK Countryside - amazing !!...   Cities not so.

 

Immigration - who care's what 'race' meets me at boarder-force entry - they are usually polite enough to both myself and my wife... 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree with every point you make above.

 

Just to let you and any posters from North West England and Cumbria know that work has begun, and they are building a £ 2.5 million super mosque on the edge of the Lake District.

 

Now that will blend in with the stunning countryside..........NOT!

 

They believe there is a need for one, as there are approximately 100 Muslim families in or around that area.

 

https://thedavidvance.substack.com/p/the-lake-district-super-mosque

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2029550/construction-lake-district-first-mosque

[richard_smith237]

45 minutes ago, Scouse123 said:

Just to let you and any posters from North West England and Cumbria know that work has begun, and they are building a £ 2.5 million super mosque on the edge of the Lake District.

 

Now that will blend in with the stunning countryside..........NOT!

 

They believe there is a need for one, as there are approximately 100 Muslim families in or around that area.

 

https://thedavidvance.substack.com/p/the-lake-district-super-mosque

 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2029550/construction-lake-district-first-mosque

 

Hardly a supermosque, its the size of a farmers barn, which is hardly pleasing on the eye.

 

I've nothing against building a mosque - so long as they are not using tax payers money, my same argument would persist if it were a church being built.

 

I've nothing against multiculturalism either - but what I am against is the shift in moral standards that evolves when those from 'alternative cultures' overwhelm area's and bring their own 'poorer' standards rather than adapting... 

 

I've worked with many different cultures in many different countries and always enjoyed the culture I'm in - but at the risk of sounding racist... the Pakistanis in the UK are perhaps the singular most objectionable group of 'people' I've had the displeasure to be exposed to - they are dangerous, IMO...   Meanwhile I find Indians, the Chinese, Jamaicans etc and many other nationalities bring a colour and vibrance than enhances compliments, blends and enhances all cultures where differences are seen to be minor and similarities and overlap become more obvious......    I just don't get that with Pakistani's - if that makes a racists - so be it..... 

[youreavinalaff]

7 hours ago, Scouse123 said:

 

Exactly my point.

When I came to Thailand, I did so legally—obtaining the correct visas and bringing sufficient funds. I built homes, bought cars, opened a business, and supported two Thai girls through their education.

 

Their futures, and that of my now-extended family, have improved significantly since I became part of their lives.

 

One is now a nurse, and the other works in Central Bangkok.

 

I’m not asking for gratitude, but I do believe that people who make positive, lawful contributions like this deserve at least to be acknowledged, not mischaracterized.

 

I certaily do not think it's too much to ask that people coming to the UK have something to offer the country and enter by the correct channels, and by that I don't mean the English channel.

Most do enter by the correct channels. Only about 10% of total migration to UK is illegal.

 

That's probably the same in most countries. 

[Nick Carter icp]

4 hours ago, youreavinalaff said:

Most do enter by the correct channels. Only about 10% of total migration to UK is illegal.

 

That's probably the same in most countries. 

 

   Its not actually illegal to claim asylum in the UK 

[youreavinalaff]

30 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Its not actually illegal to claim asylum in the UK 

I didn't say it was.

 

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, youreavinalaff said:

I didn't say it was.

 

 

   Which migration to the UK is illegal ?

The 10 % ?

[youreavinalaff]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Which migration to the UK is illegal ?

The 10 % ?

The 10% that isn't legal. I'd have thought that was obvious.

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, youreavinalaff said:

The 10% that isn't legal. I'd have thought that was obvious.

 

   How do they enter the UK ?

[youreavinalaff]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   How do they enter the UK ?

Illegally. I'd have thought that was obvious.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, youreavinalaff said:

Illegally. I'd have thought that was obvious.

 

   Knew it 

You meant that asylum seekers are illegal immigrants .

[youreavinalaff]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Knew it 

You meant that asylum seekers are illegal immigrants .

I don't recall saying that.

 

I'm fully away of the difference. In fact, if you'd care to look at my posting history on such matters, you'll see for yourself.

 

So, no, I didn't mean what you say. That's two incorrect accusations you've made about me in as many days.