Popular Post Social Media Posted Monday at 09:03 PM Popular Post Posted Monday at 09:03 PM Pride Flags Removed from House of Lords Canteen After Peer’s Complaint The House of Lords has removed a set of Pride flags from its River Restaurant following a complaint from Baroness Emma Nicholson, a Conservative peer known for her gender-critical stance. The flags, which included the modern “Progress Pride” design, were put up at the start of June to mark the beginning of Pride Month. However, their presence quickly sparked controversy among members of the Lords. The Progress Pride flag includes the traditional rainbow colours along with a chevron featuring pink, blue, and white stripes representing the transgender community, as well as a yellow triangle with a purple circle symbolising intersex individuals. For some, this flag has become a flashpoint in debates over gender identity and the merging of trans rights with broader LGBTQ+ rights. Critics often argue for a separation of issues, referring to the slogan “LGB without the T.” Baroness Nicholson took to social media platform X to share photos of the flags on display above breakfast offerings at the restaurant. After receiving support online, she submitted a complaint to the Lord Speaker’s Office. By Friday afternoon, the decorations had been removed. "The superb River Restaurant in the House of Lords has had the decorations that I pictured removed," she tweeted. "The food remains as stunning as before. I am most grateful to the Lord Speaker for his swift and thoughtful response to my request. I respect all people in all walks of life always.” Baroness Nicholson, who has a history of voting against LGBTQ+ rights – including her support for Section 28 and opposition to gay marriage – originally served as a Conservative MP before defecting to the Liberal Democrats in the 1990s. She later returned to the Conservative Party in 2016. Helen Joyce, director of advocacy at the campaign group Sex Matters, supported the removal, saying, “The baby blue and pink of trans activism, which features in the flag, signals support for a harmful fringe ideology that justifies a wide range of human rights abuses, including puberty blockers for minors, surgeries that leave people sterile, the placement of rapists in women’s prisons, and the destruction of single-sex services and spaces.” Joyce added that the decision to display the flag was “provocative and inappropriate” and called its removal “reassuring.” Notably, the House of Commons canteen did not display similar flags. A spokesperson for the House of Lords clarified the removal by stating, “Informal decorations were put up locally to mark the beginning of Pride month. These were taken down at an appropriate point due to their unofficial nature.” They also specified that the Lord Speaker, Lord McFall, did not personally intervene in the matter. The incident sparked debate on social media, with many expressing discomfort over the flag’s placement. User Sean Ako, identifying as a gay man, commented, “Can’t I have my breakfast in peace without having a flag waved in my face? I don’t need to be celebrated first thing in the morning. I need to be caffeinated.” Another user, Clean City Bird, added, “Honestly, what has the progress flag or same-sex attraction got to do with having breakfast? Do you get a bigger portion if you state your pronouns while they plate your beans?” Margaret Kearney echoed similar sentiments, writing, “Think about the flags as you eat breakfast or have tea and toast. For some it could be a turn-off to eat anything.” While the removal of the Pride flags satisfied some, it has also highlighted the deep divisions within public institutions over how, and whether, to display symbols of LGBTQ+ solidarity. Adapted by ASEAN Now from The Telegraph 2025-06-10 1 5 2 8
Popular Post GanDoonToonPet Posted Monday at 10:21 PM Popular Post Posted Monday at 10:21 PM I agree wholeheartedly. The original gay pride flag signified the inclusion of everyone i.e. all the colours of the rainbow. The (progressive or racial) pride flag, like the one shown in the picture, is far from inclusive. It is in fact the opposite...exclusive. It includes transgender, non-binary, intersex, black-skinned, and brown-skinned people but excludes cisgender, straight, male-identifying, female-identifying and white-skinned people and, ironically, gay, bisexual and lesbian people. We call this progress 🤔 3 2 5 5 2
Harrisfan Posted Monday at 10:26 PM Posted Monday at 10:26 PM West is obsessed with labels Just live and let live 1 5 1 15
blaze master Posted Monday at 10:42 PM Posted Monday at 10:42 PM 15 minutes ago, Harrisfan said: West is obsessed with labels Just live and let live Someone will be along soon to thumbs down your rational comment. 1 1 10 1 2
Harrisfan Posted Monday at 10:44 PM Posted Monday at 10:44 PM Just now, blaze master said: Someone will be along soon to thumbs down your rational comment. In the west people all get labelled - snob, bogan, moron, gay, fw etc It is so ridiculous. 1 1 3
blaze master Posted Monday at 10:45 PM Posted Monday at 10:45 PM 1 minute ago, Harrisfan said: In the west people all get labelled - snob, bogan, moron, gay, fw etc It is so ridiculous. Old mindsets. 4
Popular Post Jim Blue Posted Monday at 11:02 PM Popular Post Posted Monday at 11:02 PM Believe some of the Lords weren't so Lordly in the past .Lord Boothby comes to mind ....... ⁴ 4 1 2
Popular Post quake Posted 23 hours ago Popular Post Posted 23 hours ago Well done. The tide is turning. keep up the good work. 1 9 2 6
Popular Post Packer Posted 23 hours ago Popular Post Posted 23 hours ago The whole pride thing is very odd. Why should people be proud of their sexual preference? It doesn't make any sense. 5 4 2 2 6
Zaphod Priest Posted 23 hours ago Posted 23 hours ago 2 minutes ago, Packer said: The whole pride thing is very odd. Why should people be proud of their sexual preference? The opposite of pride? Shame. Gay people in the West had to hide their sexuality for fear of persecution and prosecution. Even today prejudice and discrimination are rife. That's enough to make gay men and women feel ashamed of their sexuality. The "whole pride thing" is an attempt, partially, to address the shame. 1 2 1 11 1
Popular Post mogandave Posted 23 hours ago Popular Post Posted 23 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Packer said: The whole pride thing is very odd. Why should people be proud of their sexual preference? It doesn't make any sense. Often, it’s all they have. People participating in pride events are generally childless, sad people with empty lives just starving for attention and affirmation. Same with a lot of leftists. 1 2 1 7 1 3
blaze master Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago 29 minutes ago, Zaphod Priest said: The opposite of pride? Shame. Gay people in the West had to hide their sexuality for fear of persecution and prosecution. Even today prejudice and discrimination are rife. That's enough to make gay men and women feel ashamed of their sexuality. The "whole pride thing" is an attempt, partially, to address the shame. Rubbish. In. Canada you are legally allowed to put x as your gender on your passport. Seems pretty prejudice and discriminatory to me. 1 1
Popular Post JonnyF Posted 22 hours ago Popular Post Posted 22 hours ago 2 hours ago, Harrisfan said: In the west people all get labelled - snob, bogan, moron, gay, fw etc It is so ridiculous. It's the scourge of identity politics. As a gay man... As a black man... As a mother... As a transwoman... People use this at the start of a sentence to make the rubbish they are about to say more credible. Identity politics is putting equality back decades. Everyone wants to be special, according to (in most cases) immutable characteristics. Who cares what colour you are or who/what you like to have sex with (as long as it is legal). Just stop being a muppet and everyone will get on fine. The Lords got something right for once. 4 1 2 2 1 2
Popular Post mogandave Posted 22 hours ago Popular Post Posted 22 hours ago Is pride not number one of the seven deadly sins? It ranks above: greed, lust, envy, gluttony, wrath and sloth. 2 1 2 1 1
Watawattana Posted 22 hours ago Posted 22 hours ago An action taken that addresses the thoughts of the majority. Not that common I think. I'm happy the Lords have taken this action, about as happy to see Pride flags flying too. It doesn't bother or affect me, but I tend to agree with Zaphod about what happened in the past; Alan Turing being one example of far too many. But it's gone too far when Pride starts splintering into ever more radical factions, such as mentioned in GanDoonToonPet's post. Also reminds me of the BLM movement; needed as in the past black lives didn't matter and generally a positive and peaceful movement, but even that started to splinter into groups such as Say Her Name as BLM's focus on women was not strong enough, and allegations of using money raised for a $6m house without good justification. 1 1
Popular Post quake Posted 21 hours ago Popular Post Posted 21 hours ago We are at the point where, if you say anything what ever against the alphabet people. You are automatically labeled as a homophobe. ( also some posters on here do it.) Well done the alphabet people. top marks for that, you shot yourself in the foot. The push back has arrived in the west and it's been long overdue. But the damage the alphabet people have done to the gay community is huge, it has set it back 20 years. Top marks again. The alphabet people, should have integrated instead of segregated. Good luck. 5 1 1 2 1
roquefort Posted 21 hours ago Posted 21 hours ago 3 hours ago, Jim Blue said: Believe some of the Lords weren't so Lordly in the past .Lord Boothby comes to mind ....... ⁴ Up to him. No-one else's business, as long as it's legal. Live and let live. 2 2
Popular Post jesimps Posted 18 hours ago Popular Post Posted 18 hours ago What happened to "Have a gay day!" ? Now they've bagged a month! Right - Happy Veterans Month! 2 1
ThreeCardMonte Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 6 hours ago, Jim Blue said: Believe some of the Lords weren't so Lordly in the past .Lord Boothby comes to mind ....... ⁴ How about Lord Mountbatten? Wasn’t he famous for his boys? 2 2
Popular Post ThreeCardMonte Posted 18 hours ago Popular Post Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, quake said: We are at the point where, if you say anything what ever against the alphabet people. You are automatically labeled as a homophobe. ( also some posters on here do it.) Well done the alphabet people. top marks for that, you shot yourself in the foot. The push back has arrived in the west and it's been long overdue. But the damage the alphabet people have done to the gay community is huge, it has set it back 20 years. Top marks again. The alphabet people, should have integrated instead of segregated. Good luck. Happy to see a UK poster with your mindset. Quite refreshing for a change. 1 2
ThreeCardMonte Posted 18 hours ago Posted 18 hours ago 7 minutes ago, jesimps said: What happened to "Have a gay day!" ? Now they've bagged a month! Right - Happy Veterans Month! It’s spreading! 1
Chomper Higgot Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 5 hours ago, Zaphod Priest said: The opposite of pride? Shame. Gay people in the West had to hide their sexuality for fear of persecution and prosecution. Even today prejudice and discrimination are rife. That's enough to make gay men and women feel ashamed of their sexuality. The "whole pride thing" is an attempt, partially, to address the shame. Including up until recently members of the House of Lords. 1
ThreeCardMonte Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 5 hours ago, Zaphod Priest said: The opposite of pride? Shame. Gay people in the West had to hide their sexuality for fear of persecution and prosecution. Even today prejudice and discrimination are rife. That's enough to make gay men and women feel ashamed of their sexuality. The "whole pride thing" is an attempt, partially, to address the shame. “hide their sexuality for fear of persecution and prosecution” So why do they continue to emulate the most notorious of their persecutors who placed them in the crematoriums. The Nazi’s, Gestapo and SS during their Cosplay? 2
Thingamabob Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago A canteen is not a great place for flags of any kind. 1
Baht Simpson Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 13 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said: “hide their sexuality for fear of persecution and prosecution” So why do they continue to emulate the most notorious of their persecutors who placed them in the crematoriums. The Nazi’s, Gestapo and SS during their Cosplay? You don't seem to understand what Nazis are. Or indeed crematoriums. 🙂 They're Leatherman, more akin to American cops than Nazis. If you're going display your endless homophobia in your numerous anti-gay posts at least try to get your facts straight or you'll come across as an idiot too. 1 2
Baht Simpson Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 5 minutes ago, Thingamabob said: A canteen is not a great place for flags of any kind. I agree. Seems like it was a private gesture by someone though.
ThreeCardMonte Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 9 minutes ago, Baht Simpson said: You don't seem to understand what Nazis are. Or indeed crematoriums. 🙂 They're Leatherman, more akin to American cops than Nazis. If you're going display your endless homophobia in your numerous anti-gay posts at least try to get your facts straight or you'll come across as an idiot too. Soeaking from experience? They certainly look like Nazi, Gestapo, SS to me. The hypocrisy is astounding. Dressing like the men who burned them. Anti-gay? Where are getting this from? Because I speak the truth.? You should be supporting me for bringing this hypocrisy to light. These real Gestapo uniforms represent the photo I submitted much more than you claiming “American cop’.
Photoguy21 Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago There should only be the countries flag not that of a sect 2
Baht Simpson Posted 17 hours ago Posted 17 hours ago 3 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said: Soeaking from experience? They certainly look like Nazi, Gestapo, SS to me. The hypocrisy is astounding. Dressing like the men who burned them. Anti-gay? Where are getting this from? Because I speak the truth.? You should be supporting me for bringing this hypocrisy to light. Lol. Can you get any more ridiculous? 1 1
Jingthing Posted 16 hours ago Posted 16 hours ago I don't care whether this Lordly greazy (sic) spoon hash house keeps up those decorations or not. But I do think it might be relevant if they put up decorations for other celebratory holidays such as Christmas. 1 1
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