UK Gibraltar Deal Triggers Backlash: UK ‘surrendering Gibraltar’

[RayC]

15 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

There are only really 2 possibilities.

 

1. They hate Britain and this is deliberate.

2. They do not hate Britain and they are monumentally stupid.

 

All the evidence suggests the majority of Labour MP's fall into the first bracket. Thornberry's tweet mocking the white van man who had the temerity to have the St George flag hanging from a window etc. The contempt she had for such a working class Brit was palpable. 

 

 

What absolute nonsense.

 

You quote one tweet from the loathsome Emily Thornberry and therefore conclude that the majority of Labour MPs hate Britain. It's absurd reasoning

 

A Reform canvasser was caught making racist comments during last year's GE campaign. By your rationale, we should therefore conclude that the majority of Reform members are racists.

[annotator]

On 6/13/2025 at 5:27 PM, Tiger1980 said:

it’s a rock with thousands of citizens who continually vote 99% to remain British rather than Spanish. How so unlike yourself.

Remain British? 96% voted to stay in the EU. They hate the UK. They just want to stay in the UK for all the benefits they get from staying in it.

[JonnyF]

10 hours ago, RayC said:

A Reform canvasser was caught making racist comments during last year's GE campaign. By your rationale, we should therefore conclude that the majority of Reform members are racists.

 

Bit of a difference between a canvasser and a senior member of the party who is also an MP.

 

Labour hate Britain. They hate the working class. Thornberry let the mask slip but we all knew what was underneath already. Labour have become a party for the Metropolitan Liberal elite. Not the working man in Doncaster. 

 

Unfortunately for you, the working class have seen it. And now they've seen it, they won't unsee it. You better hope Labour ramp up the damage. They are a one term government not to be repeated. 

[RayC]

32 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

Bit of a difference between a canvasser and a senior member of the party who is also an MP.

 

Labour hate Britain. They hate the working class. Thornberry let the mask slip but we all knew what was underneath already. Labour have become a party for the Metropolitan Liberal elite. Not the working man in Doncaster. 

 

Unfortunately for you, the working class have seen it. And now they've seen it, they won't unsee it. You better hope Labour ramp up the damage. They are a one term government not to be repeated. 

 

Where's the difference? Is there something that magically turns a Labour candidate from a person who cares about the country into one who hates the country the moment s/he becomes a MP? Of course there isn't. It's ridiculous. I would call it science-fiction but that would be an insult to science. Your logic is flawed. You are being completely irrational.

 

Labour may appeal to the Metropolitan Liberal elite but, it also appears to appeal to the working man in Doncaster given that the city returned all (4) MPs from Labour at the last election.

[josephbloggs]

12 hours ago, RayC said:

A Reform canvasser was caught making racist comments during last year's GE campaign. By your rationale, we should therefore conclude that the majority of Reform members are racists.

 

Well, erm.....

[newbee2022]

On 6/13/2025 at 1:29 PM, jippytum said:

No suprise here. Starmer is happy to hand our country to Europe and any illegal immigrant who fancies a two hour dingy trip. 

immigrant who fancies a two hour dingy trip. 

Why not?

After a while they will mingle with UK's Aboriginals and pop up the average IQ.

[Nick Carter icp]

50 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

immigrant who fancies a two hour dingy trip. 

Why not?

After a while they will mingle with UK's Aboriginals and pop up the average IQ.

 

  

Aborigines come from Australia , there are no Aborigines from the UK 

[Harrisfan]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  

Aborigines come from Australia , there are no Aborigines from the UK 

Indonesia actually

[newbee2022]

8 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  

Aborigines come from Australia , there are no Aborigines from the UK 

I call them as I like. Even without your consent!!!🤓

[newbee2022]

Just now, Harrisfan said:

Indonesia actually

For me they're Aborigines. You don't like it? Scroll on

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

I call them as I like. Even without your consent!!!🤓

 

   You are the wrong person to criticise other peoples intelligence 

[newbee2022]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You are the wrong person to criticise other peoples intelligence 

Said one of the Aboriginals ???😂😂😂

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, newbee2022 said:

Said one of the Aboriginals ???😂😂😂

 

   Your humour level is on the same level as your intelligence .

[newbee2022]

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You are the wrong person to criticise other peoples intelligence 

Well, a proof of your intelligence:

Have a quick look and google "What is an Aboriginal?"

No further comments required 🤓

[newbee2022]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Your humour level is on the same level as your intelligence .

Well, I gave you just a test question concerning your Intelligence level. 

😂😂😂

[Nick Carter icp]

13 hours ago, RayC said:

A Reform canvasser was caught making racist comments during last year's GE campaign. By your rationale, we should therefore conclude that the majority of Reform members are racists.

 

   Wasn't he a method actor being filmed by the opposition in order to discredit Reform ?

   It wasn't a genuine video ?

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Well, a proof of your intelligence:

Have a quick look and google "What is an Aboriginal?"

No further comments required 🤓

 "a word for a member of any of the groups of people who first lived in Australia, which was used officially in the past, but is now offensive."

 

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/aborigine

 

[DezLez]

23 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  

Aborigines come from Australia , there are no Aborigines from the UK 

WRONG!

The term "Aboriginal" does not apply ONLY to the "Aboriginals" of Australia!

"being the first or earliest known of its kind present in a region"

 

• Have their own distinct cultural practices, languages, and beliefs.
• Refers to the people who have been in a region from the earliest time.
• etc etc.
• ABORIGINAL Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

 

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, DezLez said:

WRONG!

The term "Aboriginal" does not apply ONLY to the "Aboriginals" of Australia!

"being the first or earliest known of its kind present in a region"

 

• Have their own distinct cultural practices, languages, and beliefs.
• Refers to the people who have been in a region from the earliest time.
• etc etc.
• ABORIGINAL Definition & Meaning - Merriam-Webster

 

 

   "Aborigines" 

 

"For me they're Aborigines. You don't like it? Scroll on"

[DezLez]

Just now, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   "Aborigines" 

 

"For me they're Aborigines. You don't like it? Scroll on"

For the rest of the world they are NOT. 

I suggest that you your facts right and apologise when you are corrected rather than make a fatuous reply.!

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, DezLez said:

For the rest of the world they are NOT. 

 

 

   Could you elaborate on that ?

For the rest of the world they are not what ?

[DezLez]

15 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 "a word for a member of any of the groups of people who first lived in Australia, which was used officially in the past, but is now offensive."

 

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/aborigine

 

And from the same link if you delve a bit deeper;

"a member of a race of people who were the first people to live in a country, before any colonists arrived:"

ABORIGINAL | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary

[DezLez]

5 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Could you elaborate on that ?

For the rest of the world outside of Australia they are not the only "Aboriginals".

"a member of a race of people who were the first people to live in a country, before any colonists arrived:"

When losing and in a hole I suggest you stop digging unless of course you are an Australian "digger" as opposed to any other nation's digger!

[Nick Carter icp]

1 minute ago, DezLez said:

And from the same link if you delve a bit deeper;

a member of a race of people who were the first people to live in a country, before any colonists arrived:

ABORIGINAL | English meaning - Cambridge Dictionary

 

  Who were the colonists that arrived in the UK ?

[DezLez]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Who were the colonists that arrived in the UK ?

The Irish, Norse, Romans, French etc etc!

[Nick Carter icp]

9 minutes ago, DezLez said:

For the rest of the world outside of Australia they are not the only "Aboriginals".

"a member of a race of people who were the first people to live in a country, before any colonists arrived:"

When losing and in a hole I suggest you stop digging unless of course you are an Australian "digger" as opposed to any other nation's digger!

 

   Aborigines are Australians , Aborigines come from Australia 

Aborigines are not from the UK  

Newbee was using the term to be racially abusive 

[JonnyF]

6 hours ago, RayC said:

Labour may appeal to the Metropolitan Liberal elite but, it also appears to appeal to the working man in Doncaster given that the city returned all (4) MPs from Labour at the last election.

 

Let's see how many they get at the next election.

 

People have now seen what Labour do when in power.

 

One term government.

[Chomper Higgot]

The Uk loses diplomatic and political weight after Brexit shocker.

[Nick Carter icp]

14 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The Uk loses diplomatic and political weight after Brexit shocker.

 

   Starmer gets accused of surrendering British sovereignty (in 2025)

Blame Brexit (from 2016) .

   Not Starmers fault , oh no, always someone else's fault .

Labour can do no wrong , always because of someone else 

 

[Chomper Higgot]

2 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Starmer gets accused of surrendering British sovereignty (in 2025)

Blame Brexit (from 2016) .

   Not Starmers fault , oh no, always someone else's fault .

Labour can do no wrong , always because of someone else 

 

And yet the negotiations are inextricably linked to the failed promises of Brexit.

 

Not a warm sunlit upland in sight.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jun/12/gibraltar-agrees-15-sales-tax-on-goods-in-post-brexit-settlement-with-spain