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London-Bound Air India Flight Crashes Near Ahmedabad

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6 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Could be but it looked like they were never set to any useful degree to enable take off.

I doubt that. The warnings would have been blaring, i didn't see any of the experts stating that and i doubt the plane would have gotten of the ground.

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3 hours ago, Georgealbert said:

The DGCA (Directorate General of Civil Aviation) has directed Air India to undertake immediate technical inspections of all Boeing 787-8 and 787-9 aircraft fitted with Genx engines. Of the 33 Dreamliners currently in service across Indian carriers, 8 have already undergone inspection. The remaining aircraft are being checked on an urgent basis.

 

Gotta wonder what they're being inspected for?

 

16 hours ago, stevenl said:

Nothing yet, hence the attempt from India to put the blame on someone else. 

 

43 minutes ago, stevenl said:

I doubt that. The warnings would have been blaring, i didn't see any of the experts stating that and i doubt the plane would have gotten of the ground.

 

Some of the vdo's I saw did have experts commenting on the low or nil flap selection.

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

I just did but you can't even comprehend that.

Yes. I can't comprehend anything you say.  is that amazing as well?  

Just now, sqwakvfr said:

Yes. I can't comprehend anything you say.  is that amazing as well?  

 

After all your nonsense? Not at all.

 

 

Just now, nauseus said:

 

After all your nonsense? Not at all.

 

 

But you said you were amazed at my nonsense.  

19 minutes ago, sqwakvfr said:

But you said you were amazed at my nonsense.  

 

Yes. But I'm used to it now.

Dual engine failure.

 

1 hour ago, nauseus said:

 

Yes. But I'm used to it now.

Ok.  Do you need more examples of my nonsense? 

 

An Air India Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner en route to New Delhi was forced to turn back to Hong Kong on 16 June, after the pilot reported a suspected technical issue mid-flight.

 

According to the Hong Kong Airport Authority, flight AI315 declared a “local standby”, indicating a precautionary return due to a possible fault. The aircraft landed safely at Hong Kong International Airport at around 13:15 local time.

 

The nature of the suspected technical issue has not been disclosed, and no injuries have been reported.

 

Air India has not yet issued an official statement regarding the diversion or the condition of the aircraft.

 

Passengers on board were disembarked following standard safety procedures. It remains unclear whether a replacement aircraft will be arranged or if the flight will be rescheduled.

 

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15 minutes ago, ravip said:

 

 

 

Oooh nooo.

The Air India aircraft (AI-159), scheduled to operate the first London-bound flight from Ahmedabad since last week's crash, did not take off on Tuesday due to a technical fault. This is the fourth such incident involving an Air India aircraft in the past 24 hours.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/air-india-ahmedabad-london-flight-cancelled-due-to-technical-glitch-same-route-on-which-ai171-crashed-2741956-2025-06-17

38 minutes ago, ravip said:

The Air India aircraft (AI-159), scheduled to operate the first London-bound flight from Ahmedabad since last week's crash, did not take off on Tuesday due to a technical fault. This is the fourth such incident involving an Air India aircraft in the past 24 hours.

 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.indiatoday.in/amp/india/story/air-india-ahmedabad-london-flight-cancelled-due-to-technical-glitch-same-route-on-which-ai171-crashed-2741956-2025-06-17

 

AI 159 flew yesterday (16th). Landed LGW OK after a one hour delay.

 

On June 18th, the DGCA stated, that the inspection of Air India's Dreamliners did not find safety deficiencies. Aircraft and maintenance were found in compliance with existing safety standards.

 

 

  • 2 weeks later...

From Aviation Herald.
 

On  Jun29th, India's Civil Aviation Minister said: "It has never happened that both engines shut down together." Investigators are analysing the black boxes from every angle including engine issues, fuel supply problem or something else including sabotage. A preliminary report is to be expected in three months.
 

India has also accepted the proposal from ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organisation) for an ICAO observer into the accident investigation. The observer will not have investigative authority, but will provide technical input and ensure that global best practises are being followed. This enhances transparency and reinforces India's adherence to international standards.

1 hour ago, Georgealbert said:

From Aviation Herald.
 

On  Jun29th, India's Civil Aviation Minister said: "It has never happened that both engines shut down together." Investigators are analysing the black boxes from every angle including engine issues, fuel supply problem or something else including sabotage. A preliminary report is to be expected in three months.
 

India has also accepted the proposal from ICAO (International Civil Aviation Organisation) for an ICAO observer into the accident investigation. The observer will not have investigative authority, but will provide technical input and ensure that global best practises are being followed. This enhances transparency and reinforces India's adherence to international standards.

 

Thanks. A rather ambiguous statement and a rather long time for a preliminary report. 

 

I can't hold my breath any longer.

 

 

 

 

24 minutes ago, nauseus said:

 

Thanks. A rather ambiguous statement and a rather long time for a preliminary report. 

 

I can't hold my breath any longer.

 

 

 

 


ICAO guidances states that normally a preliminary report should be released within 30 days of the crash and the final report should come within 12 months.

 

This article covers the same details coming from Murlidhar Mohol, India’s civil aviation minister

 

“Investigators look into Air India sabotage theory”

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/investigators-look-air-india-sabotage-170520769.html

25 minutes ago, Georgealbert said:


ICAO guidances states that normally a preliminary report should be released within 30 days of the crash and the final report should come within 12 months.

 

This article covers the same details coming from Murlidhar Mohol, India’s civil aviation minister

 

“Investigators look into Air India sabotage theory”

 

https://www.yahoo.com/news/investigators-look-air-india-sabotage-170520769.html

 

Thanks, George.

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On Jul 8th 2025 the AAIB (Aircraft Accident Investigation Bureau) indicated they have submitted their preliminary report to India's DGCA (Directorate General of Civil Aviation) and the Ministry of Civil Aviation.

 

That preliminary investigation report  is expected to be released to the public by July 11, in line with international aviation standards.

On 6/15/2025 at 2:26 PM, impulse said:

 

Gotta wonder what they're being inspected for?

 

Software...

 

The 737 Max was a software issue. Even though the root cause lied in fitting modern engines on an obsolete airframe. Anyhow the pilots were clueless when the aircraft showed a ming of its own.

 

This 787 throttled its engines for some obscure reason.

 

Boeing must revisit its software development/release processes, or sell out to the Airbus/Comac alliance (to be, thanks to TACO).

 

6 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

Software...

 

The 737 Max was a software issue. Even though the root cause lied in fitting modern engines on an obsolete airframe. Anyhow the pilots were clueless when the aircraft showed a ming of its own.

 

This 787 throttled its engines for some obscure reason.

 

Boeing must revisit its software development/release processes, or sell out to the Airbus/Comac alliance (to be, thanks to TACO).

 

 

Care to give a link to support the self-throttling claim ?

17 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

Care to give a link to support the self-throttling claim ?

 

That popular hypothesis is based on the process of elimination. The interim report will be very interesting because all the recoverable data are in. 

37 minutes ago, bg53 said:

 

That popular hypothesis is based on the process of elimination. The interim report will be very interesting because all the recoverable data are in. 

 

That's not even a link - let alone any evidence.

 

Apparently there is now suspicion of at least one engine being stopped (fuel cut-off switch) manually. Maybe we'll find out later today??

12 minutes ago, nauseus said:

That's not even a link - let alone any evidence.

 

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The popular hypotheses out there are just noise for now.

18 minutes ago, bg53 said:

 

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The popular hypotheses out there are just noise for now.

 

I just heard it again.

3 hours ago, bg53 said:

 

That popular hypothesis is based on the process of elimination. The interim report will be very interesting because all the recoverable data are in. 

I think it may be interesting because the Indians will try to put the blame on Boeing. 

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