Trump Shifts Deportation Focus, Pausing Raids on Farms, Hotels and Eateries

[jerrymahoney]

On 6/14/2025 at 5:34 PM, impulse said:

No.  He just underestimated the depths to which the Dems, MSM and activist judges would sink. 

 

They'll be perfectly happy to destroy the country as long as it stops him.

 

NYTimes headline 02JUN2025:

 

A Fiery Brief Fueled by Conservatives Helped Put Trump’s Tariffs in Peril
A coalition including leading figures on the right said the president’s program did violence to the Constitution. One judge cited it eight times.

[jerrymahoney]

On 6/14/2025 at 5:18 PM, impulse said:

You lefties. 

 

You complain for months about getting your vegetables picked.  Then you complain more when he listens to your complaints, takes them to heart and makes an adjustment

 

There's just no pleasing people suffering from the syndrome.

That just means the policy was ill-conceived from the get go.

[annotator]

10 hours ago, Patong2021 said:

Because the  people who pay the low wages do not want to pay higher wages.

The  offshoring of  manufacturing occurred in large part because of  wage  differences.

The best way to get Americans a living wage is to throw out the illegals who are willing to work for a lot less!

[metisdead]

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[annotator]

1 hour ago, bannork said:

US manufacturers complain there's a shortage of US workers willing to take their jobs in the cities near residents' homes, why does anyone think those same workers would want to work far from home, trapped on a farm? 

Money isn't the sole issue deterring them.

If those illegals weren't in the states those manufacturers and would have to pay people enough to attract them!

[jerrymahoney]

50 minutes ago, jerrymahoney said:

That just means the policy was ill-conceived from the get go.

As in: How wuz we supposed to know that, if we haul off 2/3 of the workers at a red-state Trump-backing conservative Omaha, NB meat packing plant, some of our constituents might get upset?

[bannork]

47 minutes ago, annotator said:

If those illegals weren't in the states those manufacturers and would have to pay people enough to attract them!

I don't think they can offer enough pay to attract them.

[worgeordie]

Has he already run out of the millions of gang members, criminally insane,rapists,

murderers ,so now he's going after mom's ,kids,workers who have been in USA

for years, students a sad series of affairs ,Donald ,

 

regards worgeordie

 

[Hanaguma]

39 minutes ago, bannork said:

I don't think they can offer enough pay to attract them.

And you would know this.... how exactly? There is no such thing as a "job that Americans won't do". That is a racist trope that needs to be discarded.  Americans do EVERY job in America. There is no job in America that is majority illegal immigrant.  

[bannork]

34 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

And you would know this.... how exactly? There is no such thing as a "job that Americans won't do". That is a racist trope that needs to be discarded.  Americans do EVERY job in America. There is no job in America that is majority illegal immigrant.  

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/19/nx-s1-5397332/america-has-plenty-of-open-manufacturing-jobs-companies-say-they-cant-fill-them

[Hanaguma]

10 minutes ago, bannork said:

https://www.npr.org/2025/05/19/nx-s1-5397332/america-has-plenty-of-open-manufacturing-jobs-companies-say-they-cant-fill-them

Thank you for not responding to my post.

 

Anyway, your link said the first thing that prevents Americans from doing those jobs is the salary.  And guess what causes salaries to be low?  The presence of illegal workers who are willing to work at depressed wages. Remove them from the labour pool and employers will be forced to pay higher wages to attract legal residents and citizens.

 

What is wrong with that? American workers get better pay, illegals get shipped out. Win/win. 

[msbkk]

1 minute ago, Hanaguma said:

Thank you for not responding to my post.

 

Anyway, your link said the first thing that prevents Americans from doing those jobs is the salary.  And guess what causes salaries to be low?  The presence of illegal workers who are willing to work at depressed wages. Remove them from the labour pool and employers will be forced to pay higher wages to attract legal residents and citizens.

 

What is wrong with that? American workers get better pay, illegals get shipped out. Win/win. 

Employers who must than pay higher salaries will also increase the selling prices in order to stay in business. The money must come from somewhere. American consumers will have to pay more because of that.

[Hanaguma]

1 hour ago, msbkk said:

Employers who must than pay higher salaries will also increase the selling prices in order to stay in business. The money must come from somewhere. American consumers will have to pay more because of that.

Of course, there is no problem with that. IMHO people will pay more for their goods, if that is the price of a safer country. Plus, it is rather mean to keep a permanent underclass of low paid illegal workers, just to keep prices down.

 

Are you so heartless? 

[annotator]

17 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Of course, there is no problem with that. IMHO people will pay more for their goods, if that is the price of a safer country. Plus, it is rather mean to keep a permanent underclass of low paid illegal workers, just to keep prices down.

 

Are you so heartless? 

Excellent point! We Americans should all be in this together. If that means Americans should have to pay a little more, that should be okay. But I don't understand why President Trump isn't on board with this any longer.

[bannork]

1 hour ago, Hanaguma said:

Thank you for not responding to my post.

 

Anyway, your link said the first thing that prevents Americans from doing those jobs is the salary.  And guess what causes salaries to be low?  The presence of illegal workers who are willing to work at depressed wages. Remove them from the labour pool and employers will be forced to pay higher wages to attract legal residents and citizens.

 

What is wrong with that? American workers get better pay, illegals get shipped out. Win/win. 

It's not just the salary.

It appears US youth don't want to work in factories- repetitive, some times dirty, shift work.

Even less on farms hundreds of miles from home.

Factories and farms can only raise wages so much and if the perceived disadvantages of working in factories and farms won't attract US workers, then you are going to have to rely on migrant labour 

 

 

[CallumWK]

32 minutes ago, Hanaguma said:

Of course, there is no problem with that. IMHO people will pay more for their goods, if that is the price of a safer country.

 

So people go to the supermarket and pay a lot more, not just a little, for their food items and think oh, but it makes our country safer ? 😂

 

You should try a job as standup comedian.

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, CallumWK said:

 

So people go to the supermarket and pay a lot more, not just a little, for their food items and think oh, but it makes our country safer ? 😂

 

You should try a job as standup comedian.

Labour costs for food/vegetables are generally about 30% of the cost of production. So, about 15% of the cost of retail- production cost plus transport etc.  Imagine labour costs increase by half as a result of paying people more. That would mean about an 8% hike in the price of food that is labour intensive. Hardly "a lot more".  And that only on food items that are being producedpartially by illegal migrant labour. 

[Hanaguma]

2 hours ago, bannork said:

It's not just the salary.

It appears US youth don't want to work in factories- repetitive, some times dirty, shift work.

Even less on farms hundreds of miles from home.

Factories and farms can only raise wages so much and if the perceived disadvantages of working in factories and farms won't attract US workers, then you are going to have to rely on migrant labour 

 

 

"It appears..." means nothing. The fact is that Americans ALREADY work in factories, work shifts, work on farms. In ALL of those jobs, the majority of workers are American and legal residents.  You have a very low opinion of Americans if you think they are not willing to work hard for an honest paycheque. 

 

And are racist if you think the solution is perpetually importing "migrants" to do the scut work. 

[simple1]

Isn't it illegal to employ "illegals"? So what going to happen to the employers and employees who are given waivers, Will employers and the employees be Forgiven and the employees US residency? Makes a joke of Stephen Miller's hardline and trump's endorsement. of the policy as they had plenty of time to work through the consequences.