The average IQ in Thailand is 89

[Airalee]

5 hours ago, newbee2022 said:

"You're the good or bad guy then?😂.

Well, I opened the thread to see how the members think of Thais.

And it's clear they think themselves to be the superiors.

I added an IQ test for everybody but got none response about the result.

My assumption (even more than assumptions) is that many/most were shocked not even getting the 89. I reckon 89 might be just the average here on AN.🥳

I noticed that you never posted a screenshot of your results.  Got something to hide?  
 

Perhaps had you chosen a site that didn’t require a credit card, more people might have answered.

 

Try this one.  It’s free.  Post a screenshot of your results.  

 

https://international-iq-test.com/en/

 

[Ebumbu]

Who designed the test and what life experience is it based on? So easy to rig a test to make Whites look superior. 

 

And what is intelligence? Here's one definition: the ability to live in your life conditions with the greatest satisfaction, peace, and social connection.

[newbee2022]

3 minutes ago, Ebumbu said:

Who designed the test and what life experience is it based on? So easy to rig a test to make Whites look superior. 

 

And what is intelligence? Here's one definition: the ability to live in your life conditions with the greatest satisfaction, peace, and social connection.

Social connection? Your logo's animal is involved?🥳

[Mike_Hunt]

1 hour ago, Airalee said:

I noticed that you never posted a screenshot of your results.  Got something to hide?  
 

Perhaps had you chosen a site that didn’t require a credit card, more people might have answered.

 

Try this one.  It’s free.  Post a screenshot of your results.  

 

https://international-iq-test.com/en/

 

The OP is hiding his low IQ.

[LosLobo]

4 hours ago, Watawattana said:

Not that this source is always accurate.  According to them Hong Kong had a population of over 9 million, whereas reality is just over 7.

 

You’re adding up districts that are already included in Hong Kong's total.
 

Hong Kong SAR is one city-region, not a collection of cities.
 

Kowloon, Tsuen Wan, Yuen Long, etc., aren’t separate cities — they’re parts of the city of Hong Kong SAR.
 

The site calls them “cities” for simplicity, but that’s misleading — they’re not cities, just districts within one city-region.
 

Hong Kong’s population is ~7 million — not 9.

[daveAustin]

3 hours ago, Ebumbu said:

Who designed the test and what life experience is it based on? So easy to rig a test to make Whites look superior. 

 

And what is intelligence? Here's one definition: the ability to live in your life conditions with the greatest satisfaction, peace, and social connection.

Take it you scored less than 89?

[cdemundo]

21 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

The median Thai person has roughly the same mental faculties as a white/European janitor. 

 

It's very important to know this if you are to understand the country and why things operate like they do. 

 

From the fairly  frequent mention of the Dunning-Kruger effect in discussions I think that this effect is fairly well-known to the AN members at large.

The thing I wonder about is do the members in general consider the effect applies to anyone?

Including them?

[newbee2022]

27 minutes ago, daveAustin said:

Take it you scored less than 89?

Why?

[Yellowtail]

40 minutes ago, newbee2022 said:

Why?

Because you weren't smart enough to score higher. 

[NorthernRyland]

1 hour ago, cdemundo said:

From the fairly  frequent mention of the Dunning-Kruger effect in discussions I think that this effect is fairly well-known to the AN members at large.

The thing I wonder about is do the members in general consider the effect applies to anyone?

Including them?

That's the thing with Dunning-Kruger, you don't know you're experiencing it by definition.

[NorthernRyland]

4 hours ago, Ebumbu said:

Who designed the test and what life experience is it based on? So easy to rig a test to make Whites look superior. 

 

And what is intelligence? Here's one definition: the ability to live in your life conditions with the greatest satisfaction, peace, and social connection.

 

Anyone can make an IQ test and there's many proxies. Working backwards from the chart I posted, career itself is a proxy for IQ.

 

Consider the fact the brain an organ and has a function like every other organ in the body. The idea is to make a test which measures the function of this organ. 

 

 

[NorthernRyland]

8 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

IQ is a BS 'test' that was designed to measure a person's ability to think and thus learn. Once a person has passed the age of about 16-18 their IQ test results are very much influenced by their education - the better educated they are, the higher they will score in the standard IQ tests. That is why the current western world is full of over-educated idiots who have a degree and think they are intelligent and can run a country or company, when they should be plumbers and cleaners - especially those in subjects like 'gender studies'.  

 

Do you understand that people from the same FAMILY and who went to the same schools have different IQ? It's at least 50% genetic and varies by population groups too for this reason.

[ukrules]

7 hours ago, TroubleandGrumpy said:

Once a person has passed the age of about 16-18 their IQ test results are very much influenced by their education - the better educated they are, the higher they will score in the standard IQ tests.

 

That's nonsense. Your IQ is largely fixed late in adolescence, it's a measure of cognitive potential, nothing more and certainly not education.

 

Back when I was at school they made us all do an IQ test, this was in the 80s when we were 15 or 16 years old depending on when in the academic year you were born.

After about this age your IQ will generally not change much if at all. You might be able to spend your time practicing IQ test type questions and get better at the tests but that doesn't change anything other than your ability to do those type of quizzes.

I remember we were told during the test that there are many more questions that we can possibly answer in the alloted time - likely about an hour and that's how it's designed - they said don't allow yourself to get stuck on one question - if you don't know it and can't figure it out just leave it blank and move on to the next question.
 

[NorthernRyland]

7 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

California one of the top five in spending, and in the bottom five in quality of outcome. 

 

IQ is largely genetic. It doesn't matter how much money they throw at the problem. They could spend 1 million each student and nothing would change.

 

"At 13 Baltimore City high schools, zero students tested proficient on 2023 state math exam"

 

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/at-13-baltimore-city-high-schools-zero-students-tested-proficient-on-2023-state-math-exam

[NorthernRyland]

6 minutes ago, ukrules said:

Back when I was at school they made us all do an IQ test, this was in the 80s when we were 15 or 16 years old depending on when in the academic year you were born.

 

They've phased these tests out because they are inherently discriminatory. Now we get DEI which is reverse discrimination in favor of low IQ people, i.e. if your race tests too high against other races they raise the bar for you to pass.

 

Here's a real rubber meets the road situation where money is involved. NBA had a test they would conduct in order to know if a player was brain injured and would receive compensation.

 

Because black Americans have an average IQ of 85 they were passing the test more often than white players and thus the NBA would offset their score to normalize them against whites.

 

Of course they got sued and had to end this but now the NBA is paying out settlements to black people in which a white person with the same injury would not get.

 

https://www.npr.org/2021/10/20/1047793751/nfl-concussion-settlement-race-norming-cte#:~:text=NFL agrees to end race,B settlement on concussions : NPR&text=Movies-,NFL agrees to end race-based brain testing in $1,players to win dementia awards.

[Yellowtail]

17 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

IQ is largely genetic. It doesn't matter how much money they throw at the problem. They could spend 1 million each student and nothing would change.

 

"At 13 Baltimore City high schools, zero students tested proficient on 2023 state math exam"

 

https://foxbaltimore.com/news/project-baltimore/at-13-baltimore-city-high-schools-zero-students-tested-proficient-on-2023-state-math-exam

That students are not proficient at math has little to do with IQ, and much more to do with the quality of education. 

 

While genetics is a component, environment is a much bigger concern.

 

 

[ukrules]

4 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

They've phased these tests out because they are inherently discriminatory. Now we get DEI which is reverse discrimination in favor of low IQ people, i.e. if your race tests too high against other races they raise the bar for you to pass.

 

They still did them fairly recently in the UK, I remember my nephew said they told him he could join Mensa based on his results - pretty sure he didn't bother though, neither did I.

 

[NorthernRyland]

11 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

That students are not proficient at math has little to do with IQ, and much more to do with the quality of education. 

 

While genetics is a component, environment is a much bigger concern.

 

 

Then how do they increase the "quality" of education? All they ever say is to spend more money per child so why doesn't that work in Baltimore?

 

Sure "change the culture" but that culture is coming from the people themselves so unless you're planning to separate families and colonize them they will revert back to the norm.

[Yellowtail]

17 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Then how do they increase the "quality" of education? All they ever say is to spend more money per child so why doesn't that work in Baltimore?

That's all "they" ever say, because "they" are leftists. 

17 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

Sure "change the culture" but that culture is coming from the people themselves so unless you're planning to separate families and colonize them they will revert back to the norm.

Students should have to pass a national test to move to the next grade. Schools that are not performing should have funding cut. 

[NorthernRyland]

3 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Students should have to pass a national test to move to the next grade. Schools that are not performing should have funding cut. 

 

But the students can't pass, that's the problem. They need to passed along or the schools will overflow.

 

In my view there's literally no solution except lower standards for certain races. US simply has too much diversity to make grading standards achievable anymore. These are hard facts of biology and the US is learning this in real time.

 

 

 

[NorthernRyland]

Just now, NorthernRyland said:

In my view there's literally no solution except lower standards for certain races. US simply has too much diversity to make grading standards achievable anymore. These are hard facts of biology and the US is learning this in real time.

 

 

This is already happening. They want diversity in schools but test standards make this impossible so instead of giving up on diversity they're going to toss out of the tests entirely.

 

https://www.oregonlive.com/education/2023/10/oregon-again-says-students-dont-need-to-prove-mastery-of-reading-writing-or-math-to-graduate-citing-harm-to-students-of-color.html

[Yellowtail]

17 minutes ago, NorthernRyland said:

 

But the students can't pass, that's the problem. They need to passed along or the schools will overflow.

 

In my view there's literally no solution except lower standards for certain races. US simply has too much diversity to make grading standards achievable anymore. These are hard facts of biology and the US is learning this in real time.

 

 

 

 

So, the teachers are correctly blaming the teachers. 

 

If you have 10% of students that can't pass a math test, it might be the students, but if none of the students can pass a math test, it's not the students. 

[Ebumbu]

3 hours ago, NorthernRyland said:

Working backwards from the chart I posted, career itself is a proxy for IQ.

 

Tesla died in poverty. So did Eric Satie, a great composer. And countless other prodigious geniuses died in poverty. Van Gogh. Nietzsche. I'd rather say it's the rule: exceptional, profound intelligence isolates you. It makes you distant from others. Not great for a career, frequently.

Your parents' income and connection have a lot more to do with your financial success than any other single factor, including IQ. Look at Trump. He boasts about passing a dementia test. Inherited 200-500M. Without that, he'd be a petty criminal. 

[Ebumbu]

4 hours ago, daveAustin said:

Take it you scored less than 89?

 

The Stanford-Binet intelligence test, developed by Lewis Terman in 1916, was based on the Binet-Simon scale, which was initially designed to identify children in need of special education. However, over time, the test was appropriated to reflect racist ideology. Terman and other early proponents of IQ testing were influenced by eugenics, which promoted the idea that intelligence was largely race based. 

 

During the early 20th century, the IQ test was used to justify the exclusion of immigrants from entering the U.S. These groups were labeled as "genetically inferior" based on their lower scores on the IQ test, even though the tests were culturally biased. 

 

The Stanford-Binet test creators explicitly warned clinicians not to use the tests as a sole determinant of intelligence or to make conclusions about an individual’s worth. They cautioned against using IQ scores to assess a person’s overall intellectual ability or their potential for success, recognizing that the test was limited and biased by cultural experiences. 

 

I could go on.