BREAKING NEWS Trump Confirms Surprise US Airstrikes on Iran’s Nuclear Sites, Including Fordo

[theblether]

This is excellent news. Ten years ago our collective jaws dropped when Saint Barack signed that appalling deal with Iran, now Trump has made it clear - no deals with this devil. 

 

You'd need to have been touched in the head to not recognize how extraordinarily dangerous it would have been to the world if these nutters had managed to create a nuke. Utterly absurd that they were allowed to even get close to doing so. Absurd. 

[Nick Carter icp]

Just now, BLMFem said:

As Israel is depending on the US for its continued existence I think "ally" doesn't really cover the complexity of the relationship.

 

   Israel can survive without the USA and its not dependant on the USA for its existence 

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More off topic posts removed including some making inflammatory slurs on Jews in the US @ronnie50

 

Trump Confirms Surprise US Airstrikes on Iran’s Nuclear Sites, Including Fordo

[rabas]

 

Not in the Pentagon brief.  The whole world including OSINT, watched six B-2 bombers take off from Missouri and lumber across the Pacific, past Hawaii, past Guam towards a rumored attack on Iran. Bombs so heavy they had to refuel right after takeoff. All fake.

[ronnie50]

7 minutes ago, rabas said:

Not in the Pentagon brief.  The whole world including OSINT, watched six B-2 bombers take off from Missouri and lumber across the Pacific, past Hawaii, past Guam towards a rumored attack on Iran. Bombs so heavy they had to refuel right after takeoff. All fake.

I haven't read all 14 pages, but did the Pentagon ever release the flight details, like which countries the B2s flew over? Or did it take 36 hours because they didn't overfly any other countries before attacking?

[Tug]

35 minutes ago, hotsun said:

But if its over quick and successful that means that trump is a hero and we cant have that can we

I’m pro peace and safety for the world stop with the divisive nonsense.trump will never be a hero in my view.silver spoon trust fund baby’s don’t insult POWs nor back murdering despots like Putin.hope that helps but doubt it.

[Purdey]

12 hours ago, WorriedNoodle said:

President Trump could potentially be impeached for bombing Iran without congressional approval, as it may violate the U.S. Constitution, which grants Congress the sole power to declare war (Article I, Section 8). The War Powers Resolution of 1973 further requires presidential notification to Congress within 48 hours of military action and limits such actions to 60-90 days without congressional authorization.

I think Trump didn't declare war. Neither did Bush. 

It was a special security operation, as Putin would say.

[Yagoda]

31 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

A disturbingly large number of Americans smugly repeat this insulting trope, diminishing French heroism and exaggerating their own singular role in liberation

French heroism. Oxymoron. 

[Yagoda]

31 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel can survive without the USA and its not dependant on the USA for its existence 

I daresay that Israel is the military match for any country in the world save China and Russia, and maybe South Korea.

 

 

[rabas]

10 minutes ago, ronnie50 said:

I haven't read all 14 pages, but did the Pentagon ever release the flight details, like which countries the B2s flew over? Or did it take 36 hours because they didn't overfly any other countries before attacking?

 

I haven't seen a 14 page report. The eastward attack force flight path is shown on the poster in the link. The diversionary flight over the pacific would take ~36 hours because they circumvented the globe. There not many countries to fly over in the pacific.

[Yagoda]

9 minutes ago, Tug said:

.silver spoon trust fund baby’s don’t insult POWs nor back murdering despots like Putin.

How does it feel to live a lie? Your whole view of reality is based on lies.

 

 

[dinsdale]

'Midnight Hammer'

 

[ronnie50]

14 minutes ago, rabas said:

 

I haven't seen a 14 page report. The eastward attack force flight path is shown on the poster in the link. The diversionary flight over the pacific would take ~36 hours because they circumvented the globe. There not many countries to fly over in the pacific.

Pentagon briefing just said Jordan Israel and Iraq fly overs. Not clear when/if all were notified in advance (or at all).

[stevenl]

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

I do not think one out of context line from one individual makes for significant "...conflicting opinions within the Trump Administration was to whether Iran was actually developing nuclear weapons capability,", but you go ahead and believe what you like brother. 

Not at all taken out of context, it was a clear statement in her testimony.  Only when trump was told about it, he forced her to retract with a lame excuse. See your post.

[ThreeCardMonte]

1 hour ago, Tug said:

Waaa off topic but I feel compelled to respond….I believe you are mistaken you are ignoring the fact of Germany fighting a 2 front war. the brave resilient Russian people killed 80% of germanys soldiers ran them out of more territory than the rest of the allied forces.all stop 🛑 and yes all the allied forces contributed but keep in mind if Germany had been able to focus on defense without the Russian invasion and consequences it may have been different.I hope this war is over quickly with a successful conclusion.

So what you’re saying is without the Russian front Germany would have taken over the UK due to focusing their attention on invading UK before we arrived over paid, over sexed and over there.

 

[Yagoda]

13 minutes ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

So what you’re saying is without the Russian front Germany would have taken over the UK due to focusing their attention on invading UK before we arrived over paid, over sexed and over there.

 

Hes not saying anything with any historical accuracy

[bannork]

[NickyLouie]

58 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

'Midnight Hammer'

 

 

 

Message was clear , FAFO 

 

USA is back and if you want piece , step on up .....

 

[CallumWK]

And according to some experts, Trump has made thing only worse with his bombing.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bombing-iran-nuclear-sites-complicates-132948201.html

 

Indeed, there’s just a slim possibility that the US entering the war will convince Iran to increase IAEA cooperation, said Darya Dolzikova, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, a London-based think tank.

“The more likely scenario is that they convince Iran that cooperation and transparency don’t work and that building deeper facilities and ones not declared openly is more sensible to avoid similar targeting in future,” she said.

IAEA inspectors haven’t been able to verify the location of the Persian Gulf country’s stockpile of near-bomb-grade uranium for more than a week. Iranian officials acknowledged breaking IAEA seals and moving it to an undisclosed location.

 

 

[theblether]

4 minutes ago, CallumWK said:

And according to some experts, Trump has made thing only worse with his bombing.

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bombing-iran-nuclear-sites-complicates-132948201.html

 

Indeed, there’s just a slim possibility that the US entering the war will convince Iran to increase IAEA cooperation, said Darya Dolzikova, a senior research fellow at the Royal United Services Institute, a London-based think tank.

“The more likely scenario is that they convince Iran that cooperation and transparency don’t work and that building deeper facilities and ones not declared openly is more sensible to avoid similar targeting in future,” she said.

IAEA inspectors haven’t been able to verify the location of the Persian Gulf country’s stockpile of near-bomb-grade uranium for more than a week. Iranian officials acknowledged breaking IAEA seals and moving it to an undisclosed location.

 

 

 

Made up guesswork - one of my mates works for the IAEA in Vienna, they haven't been able to track Iran's nuclear material for years. 

 

You'd need to be truly demented if you think they were enriching while under inspection. It's just unbelievable that anyone is carrying this nonsense as sage insight. 

 

"Yes, MR IAEA Inspector, here's where we enrich to weapons grade!!"

 

Give it a rest.  

[NanLaew]

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

French heroism. Oxymoron. 

 

American exceptionalism. Fantasy.

[Magictoad]

“We are not happy that our country is being attacked. We are happy that the criminals who ruled it are being taken down.”

The Iranians

[Jim Blue]

So many unknown unknowns .....I forget who said that !!!!

[xylophone]

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

'Midnight Hammer'

 

I watched this and thought it was a load of old codswallop with Hegseth reading from a prepared script which was structured to paint Trump as the commander-in-chief who planned and coordinated the whole thing – – yeah right. Hegseth has his nose so far up trumps posterior, that it's embarrassing to listen to him.

 

Trump is as dumb as a bag of rocks and has successfully bankrupted many of his companies and would have difficulty running a bath let alone overseeing an operation like this, but all due respect to the military involved, because they did a great and professional job.

 

Trump painted himself into a corner and put himself "between a rock and a hard place" as the saying goes, because Iran was prepared to discuss a peace agreement provided Israel stopped their bombing, however Trump was not able to persuade Netanyahu to stop the bombing, because he is too weak, so the bombing continued and Iran refused to negotiate hence Trump taking the action he did.

 

Make no mistake about it, this could have been avoided, but Trump could neither negotiate successfully with Netanyahu, or for that matter with Putin, which shows how much of a weak man he is, so now we have the current situation.

 

Who knows what the outcome will be, but having been on this earth for nearly 78 years and have been involved in the war in Biafra as well as the revolution by Gaddafi where retribution was being sought on foreign citizens, I fear for citizens/soldiers of America and other countries (US allies) when the Iranians and their allies activate their retribution in one form or another.
 

[Magictoad]

As the Zionist leader Ze’ev Jabotinsky put it: “We were not created in order to teach morals and manners to our enemies.”

YES YES YES GO ISRAEL & GO TRUMP & GO USA

[CallumWK]

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/bombing-iran-nuclear-sites-complicates-132948201.html

 

Satellite Images Undermine Trump’s Claim Iran’s Atomic Sites Destroyed

Trump said heavily fortified sites were “totally obliterated” late Saturday, but independent analysis has yet to verify that claim.

Satellite images taken on Sunday of Fordow and distributed by Maxar Technologies show new craters, possible collapsed tunnel entrances and holes on top of a mountain ridge. They also show that a large support building on the Fordow site, which operators may use to control ventilation for the underground enrichment halls, remained undamaged.

 

There were no radiation releases from the site, the IAEA reported. US Air Force General Dan Caine told a news conference on Sunday that an assessment of “final battle damage will take some time.”

[Patong2021]

4 hours ago, ThreeCardMonte said:

And we’re still speaking English.

If not for the USA coming to your aid in two, not one world wars you would be speaking German.

The Germans who immigrated to the USA were not our enemy.

 

A large number of German immigrants most certainly were. The German American Bund was holding rallies in many US cities. The largest was the infamous Madison Square Gardens rally, which had 20,000 in attendance. Huge for the era. The Bund was openly pro-Nazi and engaged in political activities that were anti American. One of the more notorious events was the attack on the German language New Yorker Staats-Zeitung .Their demands included more pro-Nazi articles and  more articles denouncing western European democracies. The Bund attempted to take control of multiple German American organizations. Its downfall came when  when Socialists and patriotic ethnic Germans participated in a campaign against the Bund. 

The Bund was  eventually undone because of its internal corruption. Revisionist historians would have us believe that the American German community was wholly opposed to the Nazis, when that was not the case. The people who were opposed are those who had fled German persecution and wanted nothing to do with the Germany of old; the Mennonites and other Christians, Jews, and socialists. Most 3rd and older generation Americans who had German heritage, did not consider themselves German, but American and were not interested in the Bund and its hate. The ethnic German socialists were some of the USA's most patriotic and they rallied against the Bund. However, there were still tens of thousands of nazi supporters  who had to be dealt with in WWII.

[kwonitoy]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If that was enough damage to affect the centrifuge hall is what has to be determined and that will be a very grey area.

US claims outstanding success, Iran says no you missed.

The fog of war

[kwonitoy]

 

 

This is the nuts and bolts of what the US is trying to disrupt.

These centrifuges are a very hi tech item, extremely high tensile strength steel balanced better than a Swiss watch to be able to spin at 90,000 rpm

They don't have to lay in ruins to be disabled, the shockwave through the rock could be enough to unbalance things.

 

[TedG]

4 hours ago, Tug said:

I’m pro peace and safety for the world stop with the divisive nonsense.trump will never be a hero in my view.silver spoon trust fund baby’s don’t insult POWs nor back murdering despots like Putin.hope that helps but doubt it.

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