Looks like Xi is finished

[theblether]

The Guardian has misread this story. Xi is expected to resign in August. Senior Xi loyalist generals are being removed. 

 

China is over $50 trillion in debt. Chinese wealth is flooding overseas - capital flight is driving the country to bankruptcy. 

 

Cosying up to Iran and Russia has backfired. Trump's tariffs are causing serious disruption to industrial capacity. 

 

internal conflicts are soaring. Riots and industrial arson reported as companies cannot meet payroll. 

 

However, the true barometer of who is in power in China is military command. The excuse for this guy is corruption - the truth is the CCP cleaning house. 

 

Trump is going to destroy Chinese expansionism without firing a shot. The threat to Taiwan has gone. 

 

Top Chinese general ousted from body that oversees China’s military | China | The Guardian https://share.google/ouLuUgrT1JNWzeOmL

[TheAppletons]

Agreed that Xi Jinping will be gone by September.

 

Probably more to do with the rumored stroke he suffered.  

 

So unless you think Trump put a voodoo curse on him to cause a stroke, then nothing to do with Trump.

[theblether]

5 hours ago, TheAppletons said:

Agreed that Xi Jinping will be gone by September.

 

Probably more to do with the rumored stroke he suffered.  

 

So unless you think Trump put a voodoo curse on him to cause a stroke, then nothing to do with Trump.

 

Nonsense. Intel is showing that the CCP has turned against Xi for siding with Iran and Russia in particular and attracting the wrath of Trump - the tariff escalation was the end of Xi. 

 

The Xiaoping school of government is back on the agenda. Xi was set for life before he lost the plot and decided to side with, as one senior CCP official put it, "worthless countries."

 

Ignoring Trump smashing China out the park with tariffs is childish. Contrary to the BS left wing media reports - the CCP knew with their crushing debt situation they couldn't afford a trade war. 

[candide]

2 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Nonsense. Intel is showing that the CCP has turned against Xi for siding with Iran and Russia in particular and attracting the wrath of Trump - the tariff escalation was the end of Xi. 

 

The Xiaoping school of government is back on the agenda. Xi was set for life before he lost the plot and decided to side with, as one senior CCP official put it, "worthless countries."

 

Ignoring Trump smashing China out the park with tariffs is childish. Contrary to the BS left wing media reports - the CCP knew with their crushing debt situation they couldn't afford a trade war. 

What are your sources? 

[couchpotato]

11 hours ago, theblether said:

The Guardian has misread this story. Xi is expected to resign in August. Senior Xi loyalist generals are being removed. 

 

China is over $50 trillion in debt. Chinese wealth is flooding overseas - capital flight is driving the country to bankruptcy. 

 

Cosying up to Iran and Russia has backfired. Trump's tariffs are causing serious disruption to industrial capacity. 

 

internal conflicts are soaring. Riots and industrial arson reported as companies cannot meet payroll. 

 

However, the true barometer of who is in power in China is military command. The excuse for this guy is corruption - the truth is the CCP cleaning house. 

 

Trump is going to destroy Chinese expansionism without firing a shot. The threat to Taiwan has gone. 

 

Top Chinese general ousted from body that oversees China’s military | China | The Guardian https://share.google/ouLuUgrT1JNWzeOmL

Thank you for the laugh of my day. Xi will be in power long after you stop posting on this forum.

[save the frogs]

There's a bunch of videos on youtube claiming that China will collapse within the next 15 minutes. 

 

[theblether]

49 minutes ago, couchpotato said:

Thank you for the laugh of my day. Xi will be in power long after you stop posting on this forum.

 

Expected to retire in August -  Is Chinese Pres. Xi Jinping on his way out? https://share.google/aeWs7FGyZkPBd6Zgs

[angryguy]

But the leftists here predicted trumps tariffs would destroy the US not China. You must be lying

[theblether]

53 minutes ago, couchpotato said:

Thank you for the laugh of my day. Xi will be in power long after you stop posting on this forum.

 

Xi will be missing from the next BRICS meeting due to a "scheduling issue." If you believe that there is something wrong with your head. 

 

Also - The Four Main Groups Challenging Xi Jinping - Jamestown https://share.google/UfOgDVyNphNur2bQh

[riclag]

12 hours ago, theblether said:

The Guardian has misread this story. Xi is expected to resign in August. Senior Xi loyalist generals are being removed. 

 

China is over $50 trillion in debt. Chinese wealth is flooding overseas - capital flight is driving the country to bankruptcy. 

 

Cosying up to Iran and Russia has backfired. Trump's tariffs are causing serious disruption to industrial capacity. 

 

internal conflicts are soaring. Riots and industrial arson reported as companies cannot meet payroll. 

 

However, the true barometer of who is in power in China is military command. The excuse for this guy is corruption - the truth is the CCP cleaning house. 

 

Trump is going to destroy Chinese expansionism without firing a shot. The threat to Taiwan has gone. 

 

Top Chinese general ousted from body that oversees China’s military | China | The Guardian https://share.google/ouLuUgrT1JNWzeOmL

Good! Its disturbing to me why the CCP is almost never discussed!

 

Don’t you agree ?

[angryguy]

2 minutes ago, riclag said:

Good! Its disturbing to me why the CCP is almost never discussed!

 

Don’t you agree ?

Leftists usually decide the discussion here and its always trump. If China had a civil war today the thread about it would be crickets

[Sir Dude]

The OP is completely correct as Xi has completely messed it up with his authoritarian policies, even the Chinese people are rebeling and the other Chinese "elders" are getting worried (people like Hu Jintao, Wen Jiabao) and Zhang Youxia - who is head of the PLA - are taking back power behind the scenes. So many Xi supporters and military general loyalists have been purged... change is coming at the 4th plenum, scheduled for mid-late August or thereabouts.

The Chinese economy is in free-fall, factories closing, joblessness rising, even college grads with MA/PhDs can't find a job and are becoming Grab drivers etc. in the gig economy. House prices are falling off a cliff edge, workers haven't been paid, banks are folding with savings disappearing with no response or explanation.

The Chinese have something in their culture called "The heavenly mandate", which is that the people cede power to the CCP authorities if they provide employment and prosperity... and the CCP is in serious danger of breaking that contract.

Expect some serious changes soon... although, it "might" (never can tell with Chinese politics) be a soft landing out of power for Xi, as the CCP elders will want to maintain social order but reverse many of his policies, which harken back to Maoism really, so as to save face and let the party survive. The CCP has got itself into this mess because of personality cult policies from Xi, a hopelessly corrupt system, debt and the way it runs its economy, plus local government financing vehicles selling land to developers that were actually operating a massive Ponzi scheme, which has now collapsed... can add on to that the grey economy and all that debt too. This is why companies are fleeing, including Chinese ones due to tariffs from the US and Europe too. China is in deep do-do but the CCP MO is to just suppress information on everything or just stop collecting data and pretend it's still okay. 

A house of cards at the moment waiting to fail... don't believe the CCP propaganda, it's shot.

[candide]

6 minutes ago, angryguy said:

Leftists usually decide the discussion here and its always trump. If China had a civil war today the thread about it would be crickets

B.S. as usual, about what the left hypothetically may think or may do! 🤣

[angryguy]

1 minute ago, candide said:

B.S. as usual, about what the left hypothetically may think or may do! 🤣

I see you dont have anything to say about China as it has nothing to do with trump

[candide]

16 minutes ago, theblether said:

 

Xi will be missing from the next BRICS meeting due to a "scheduling issue." If you believe that there is something wrong with your head. 

 

Also - The Four Main Groups Challenging Xi Jinping - Jamestown https://share.google/UfOgDVyNphNur2bQh

It's a possible explanations. There may be other explanations.

 

"However, much of the speculation about Xi’s political misfortunes relies on unsubstantiated rumors or glaring ignorance of context. In some cases, a cursory look at the so-called “signs” reveals them to be entirely normal occurrences. In other cases, there are simpler and more convincing explanations for developments regarded as unusual. This article addresses some of the oft-repeated and less speculative arguments and evidence brought up by those who buy into the Xi “losing power” narrative."

https://sinoinsider.com/2025/06/xi-is-losing-power-or-is-he/

 

[candide]

5 minutes ago, angryguy said:

I see you dont have anything to say about China as it has nothing to do with 

 

I just did! 

 

You are making up what "the left" may think or do in hypothetical situations! 🙂

 

Your other claim is also B.S. Plenty of right-wing initiated threads on this forum! 🤣

[John Drake]

4 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

The OP is completely correct as Xi has completely messed it up with his authoritarian policies, even the Chinese people are rebeling and the other Chinese "elders" are getting worried (people like Hu Jintao, Wen Jiabao) and Zhang Youxia - who is head of the PLA - are taking back power behind the scenes. So many Xi supporters and military general loyalists have been purged... change is coming at the 4th plenum, scheduled for mid-late August or thereabouts.

The Chinese economy is in free-fall, factories closing, joblessness rising, even college grads with MA/PhDs can't find a job and are becoming Grab drivers etc. in the gig economy. House prices are falling off a cliff edge, workers haven't been paid, banks are folding with savings disappearing with no response or explanation.

The Chinese have something in their culture called "The heavenly mandate", which is that the people cede power to the CCP authorities if they provide employment and prosperity... and the CCP is in serious danger of breaking that contract.

Expect some serious changes soon... although, it "might" (never can tell with Chinese politics) be a soft landing out of power for Xi, as the CCP elders will want to maintain social order but reverse many of his policies, which harken back to Maoism really, so as to save face and let the party survive. The CCP has got itself into this mess because of personality cult policies from Xi, a hopelessly corrupt system, debt and the way it runs its economy, plus local government financing vehicles selling land to developers that were actually operating a massive Ponzi scheme, which has now collapsed... can add on to that the grey economy and all that debt too. This is why companies are fleeing, including Chinese ones due to tariffs from the US and Europe too. China is in deep do-do but the CCP MO is to just suppress information on everything or just stop collecting data and pretend it's still okay. 

A house of cards at the moment waiting to fail... don't believe the CCP propaganda, it's shot.

 

I'd like for this to be true. I think. Prior to Xi, the way things were moving with gradualist and relatively  soft spoken foreign policy, China was pretty much set to have everything just fall into its lap. The cat was belled, however, with Xi and everyone made aware. Even the greedy sellouts on Wall Street and in Congress. No doubt many Chinese leaders would like to get things back to where they were.

[angryguy]

2 minutes ago, candide said:

 

I just did! 

 

You are making up what "the left" may think or do in hypothetical situations! 🙂

 

Your other claim is also B.S. Plenty of right-wing initiated threads on this forum! 🤣

I SHOULD go and look for the threads when trump put the tariffs on China, can probably find some of your posts about how the US is finished etc

[candide]

20 minutes ago, angryguy said:

I SHOULD go and look for the threads when trump put the tariffs on China, can probably find some of your posts about how the US is finished etc

Why don't you contribute to the thread's topic instead of derailing it by posting baseless rants about "the left"? 🤣

[angryguy]

1 minute ago, candide said:

Why don't you contribute to the thread's topic instead of derailing it by posting baseless rants about "the left"? 🤣

Its relevant as yall were pro china back before yall were pro iran

[Sir Dude]

37 minutes ago, John Drake said:

 

I'd like for this to be true. I think. Prior to Xi, the way things were moving with gradualist and relatively  soft spoken foreign policy, China was pretty much set to have everything just fall into its lap. The cat was belled, however, with Xi and everyone made aware. Even the greedy sellouts on Wall Street and in Congress. No doubt many Chinese leaders would like to get things back to where they were.

Yeah, I agree with that sentiment, they were sat on the cusp of complete victory, only to snatch defeat through Xi's policies, and your last sentence in that response about Chinese leaders wishing it would go back to the early 2010s is very accurate indeed... guess it's a case of hindsight is 20-20. 

[BLMFem]

13 hours ago, theblether said:

The Guardian has misread this story. Xi is expected to resign in August. Senior Xi loyalist generals are being removed. 

 

China is over $50 trillion in debt. Chinese wealth is flooding overseas - capital flight is driving the country to bankruptcy. 

 

Cosying up to Iran and Russia has backfired. Trump's tariffs are causing serious disruption to industrial capacity. 

 

internal conflicts are soaring. Riots and industrial arson reported as companies cannot meet payroll. 

 

However, the true barometer of who is in power in China is military command. The excuse for this guy is corruption - the truth is the CCP cleaning house. 

 

Trump is going to destroy Chinese expansionism without firing a shot. The threat to Taiwan has gone. 

 

Top Chinese general ousted from body that oversees China’s military | China | The Guardian https://share.google/ouLuUgrT1JNWzeOmL

So you're linking to an article that says the opposite of what you claim. Tell me, why don't you link to something that supports your assertions, or is that too much to ask?

[DezLez]

56 minutes ago, angryguy said:

I SHOULD go and look for the threads when trump put the tariffs on China, can probably find some of your posts about how the US is finished etc

Which tariffs under Trump's TACO (lack of) system do you refer to?

[candide]

1 hour ago, angryguy said:

Its relevant as yall were pro china back before yall were pro iran

More B.S. from you....🤣

[couchpotato]

3 hours ago, couchpotato said:

Thank you for the laugh of my day. Xi will be in power long after you stop posting on this forum.

Xi will never give up power voluntarily until Taiwan is of the PRC.. he has an obsession about this, and therefore he will be around to when that happens (tomorrow or 20 years from now).

[SunnyinBangrak]

2 hours ago, angryguy said:

But the leftists here predicted trumps tariffs would destroy the US not China. You must be lying

Beat me too it🤣. Every. Single. Narrative. Of the hivemind is complete and utter BS