On 7/5/2025 at 8:55 AM, SenorTashi said:

A poll I saw had 95% voting that they couldn't care less about the IDF part but were very angry about the stfu part. 

 

 

   Which poll was that ?

This story is about Pascal Robinson-Foster calling for the death of people and his anti semitic remarks  .

   No one was bothered about his STFU comments .

So , which poll did you see ?

 

6 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Again you are the one that started the off topic discussion on Tommy, disrupting the whole thread, not the poster you were responding to. 

Sigh. So we're not allowed to use examples to point out unbelievable hypocrisy of posters now?

Who made you the forum Nazi?

Just now, josephbloggs said:

Sigh. So we're not allowed to use examples to point out unbelievable hypocrisy of posters now?

Who made you the forum Nazi?

Sigh all you want, those are the facts and I can also discuss it without the need for personal attacks

On 7/4/2025 at 4:38 PM, lamyai3 said:

They might have had some tour dates and visa permissions cancelled and got dropped by their small label, but they've suddenly become more well known than ever. What was that old saying about no such thing as bad publicity? 

Well known will not translate into popularity. Bob Vylan haven't met a  trendy political fad that they did not embrace.  On the contrary, it has exposed their other idiotic statements such as the comments calling for violence against the police, with Pascal's idiotic "F**K the Police chant at  previous shows. 

 

The farce of this faux scandal is that the Glastonbury producers were well aware of Bob Vylan's political stance and calls for violence.  At an Alexandra Palace in London last May, Pascal Robinson-Foster was recorded yelling ‘Death to every single IDF soldier out there as an agent of terror for Israel. Death to the IDF’.  Had a white person said death to every single Iranian soldier out there as an agent of terror for Iran, that white person would have been arrested and charged with a hate crime. The BBC producers allowed the live broadcast of Bob Vylan, because they were in agreement with the sentiments. Had they not been, the live feed would not have occurred. 

 

The board of BBC cannot be blamed because it has little control over the individual employees, who are protected by unions or their trade association bodies. Nor would the board be vetting individual live feeds. The decision to broadcast lay entirely with the. show producers, who knew what they were doing and welcomed the controversy.

 

If the intent was to address the  issue, why aren't the responsible parties held accountable?

-  Alison Howe: Executive Producer for BBC television coverage. 

- Jonathan Rothery: Head of BBC Pop Music TV. 

- Rachel Davies: Commissioning Editor for BBC Pop Music TV. 

- Lorna Clarke: BBC Director of Music, responsible for commissioning the festival coverage. 

- Emily Eavis: A key organizer of Glastonbury Festival, working closely with the BBC on the broadcast

 

They all have gotten off without any acknowledgement of their  actions or an apology to  co workers for the damage they have done. Alison Howe should resign, but will not. Allison Howe was given a BAFTA in May 2025 for her work, and the reality is that she was a catastrophe waiting to happen.
“I was never the most academic and I decided to do a secretarial course as it seemed the best way to give me a half a chance of getting a job. My tutor was an incredible woman and made all of us believe we could be anything we wanted to be. She encouraged us to dream and to act on those dreams."

Is it any surprise, that she lacked the  acuity to appreciate and to forsee the problem that would arise?

Not the BBC's fault they were just broadcasting the performances live the blame lies with Bob Vylan and possibly the Glastonbury organisers who booked him.

Its for the police to bring any charges against them if apropriate and if they have broken any laws, and for the courts to decide if guilty and any punishment.

3 minutes ago, Bannoi said:

Not the BBC's fault they were just broadcasting the performances live the blame lies with Bob Vylan and possibly the Glastonbury organisers who booked him.

Its for the police to bring any charges against them if apropriate and if they have broken any laws, and for the courts to decide if guilty and any punishment.

 

   The BBC shouldn't have aired Bob Vylain live , thats the BBCs first mistake 

   The second mistake is the BBC NOT pulling the plug when the abuse began 

41 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Which poll was that ?

This story is about Pascal Robinson-Foster calling for the death of people and his anti semitic remarks  .

No one was bothered about his STFU comments .

So, which poll did you see? 

 

In this thread alone, this Bob Vylan chap encouraged people to kill police, said that indigenous Britons had no claim to their country, and encouraged people to kill members of the IDF.  But, of course, the only thing you want people talking about is the IDF one.  Where's the calls of "anti-policeism" or "anti-Britishsm"?

17 minutes ago, BangkokReady said:

 

In this thread alone, this Bob Vylan chap encouraged people to kill police, said that indigenous Britons had no claim to their country, and encouraged people to kill members of the IDF.  But, of course, the only thing you want people talking about is the IDF one.  Where's the calls of "anti-policeism" or "anti-Britishsm"?

 

   Your accusation doesnt make any sense 

I said "people" which includes the UK Police , I didn't just say the IDF

I do not want to make this just about the IDF , that is why I said he called for the death of people  rather than just the death to the IDF

 

 

 

Bob Vylain made the other comments about killing the Police at other concerts and they have just come to light recently .

   This thread is about the Glastonbury concert and what he said there and there he made antic semitic remarks and encouraged the killing of the IDF

Cancel culture never worked in the past, why should it work now? Look at all the movements of past decades - what horrified the parents and the establishment just made the kids want it more.

 

Also it looks like there's an increasing number of media outlets supporting what Bob Vylan and Kneecap were trying to say, even if they are against the way in which it was expressed. 

14 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

Cancel culture never worked in the past, why should it work now? Look at all the movements of past decades - what horrified the parents and the establishment just made the kids want it more.

 

Also it looks like there's an increasing number of media outlets supporting what Bob Vylan and Kneecap were trying to say, even if they are against the way in which it was expressed. 

I don't know any media outlets supporting the cries for kill the police and kill IDF, which ones would those be?

10 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

Cancel culture never worked in the past, why should it work now? Look at all the movements of past decades - what horrified the parents and the establishment just made the kids want it more. Looks like there's an increasing number of media outlets supporting what Bob Vylan and Kneecap were trying to say, even if they are against the way in which it was expressed. 

 

   It has never been acceptable for musicians to call for the death of others live on the BBC .

  Wasnt allowed or acceptable previously and it isn't allowed today 

  

43 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

Your accusation doesnt make any sense 

I said "people" which includes the UK Police , I didn't just say the IDF

I do not want to make this just about the IDF , that is why I said he called for the death of people  rather than just the death to the IDF

 

Bob Vylain made the other comments about killing the Police at other concerts and they have just come to light recently .

This thread is about the Glastonbury concert and what he said there and there he made antic semitic remarks and encouraged the killing of the IDF

 

Apparently a misunderstanding may have occurred.  Sowwy!  😘

8 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

I don't know any media outlets supporting the cries for kill the police and kill IDF, which ones would those be?

 

Much of gangsta rap became hugely popular on the back of this type of sentiment. Ice T wrote "Cop Killer", three decades later he's a mainstream character on "Law and Order".

 

Regarding the IDF, the BBC is decrying them on a daily basis - Bob Vylan is actually echoing their message (except much more violently). Probably their reason for not pulling the plug is they wanted something edgy and they were wondering how much they could get away with broadcasting. 

17 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

 

Much of gangsta rap became hugely popular on the back of this type of sentiment. Ice T wrote "Cop Killer", three decades later he's a mainstream character on "Law and Order".

 

Regarding the IDF, the BBC is decrying them on a daily basis - Bob Vylan is actually echoing their message (except much more violently). Probably their reason for not pulling the plug is they wanted something edgy and they were wondering how much they could get away with broadcasting. 

Much of gangsta rap became hugely popular on the back of this type of sentiment. Ice T wrote "Cop Killer", three decades later he's a mainstream character on "Law and Order".

 

Its illegal and we are in the UK not the US, although they've also had their visa cancelled to the US as a result of this. They are also not rappers and no the BBC has not gone that far down the rabbit hole to call for the killing of the IDF

 

 

@josephbloggs your baiting troll post has been removed. Please discuss the topic not other posters.

11 minutes ago, Bkk Brian said:

Its illegal and we are in the UK not the US, they are also not rappers and no the BBC has not gone that far down the rabbit hole to call for the killing of the IDF

 

They're a "punk rap" duo. 

4 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

 

They're a "punk rap" duo. 

No rapping going on here at this Punk Rock concert. Not that it matters on the legality of it in the UK, be it rap or punk, its illegal

 

 

1 hour ago, lamyai3 said:

Cancel culture never worked in the past, why should it work now? Look at all the movements of past decades - what horrified the parents and the establishment just made the kids want it more.

 

Also it looks like there's an increasing number of media outlets supporting what Bob Vylan and Kneecap were trying to say, even if they are against the way in which it was expressed. 

The leftist cause is collapsing. Your assumptions have no basis in reality

11 hours ago, JonnyF said:

He's a posh private schoolboy who speaks like he's got a plum in his mouth.

 

And that is relevant exactly how?

This is a good example of far-lefty evil. So, it's perfectly okay for the intolerant left to attack a minority like Jews in such a brazen way, but if the boot was on the other foot, then you are instantly arrested and jailed for speech crime... go figure you effing two-tier Kiers morons.

These vicious and deluded musicians should be arrested and jailed for hate crimes.... like everyone else would be. Reminds me of Putin saying that bombing Iran is out of order but it's okay for him to blow the hell out of Ukraine... FO. Strong is the duplicity with many now.

23 minutes ago, lamyai3 said:

 

Much of gangsta rap became hugely popular on the back of this type of sentiment. Ice T wrote "Cop Killer", three decades later he's a mainstream character on "Law and Order".

 

Regarding the IDF, the BBC is decrying them on a daily basis - Bob Vylan is actually echoing their message (except much more violently). Probably their reason for not pulling the plug is they wanted something edgy and they were wondering how much they could get away with broadcasting. 

 

   Ice T wrote a song about a Cop killer . 

Ice T didn't shout onstage encouraging people to kill Cops .

There were also calls to ban him as well, back in the day 

7 minutes ago, Sir Dude said:

This is a good example of far-lefty evil. So, it's perfectly okay for the intolerant left to attack a minority like Jews in such a brazen way, but if the boot was on the other foot, then you are instantly arrested and jailed for speech crime... go figure you effing two-tier Kiers morons.

These vicious and deluded musicians should be arrested and jailed for hate crimes.... like everyone else would be. Reminds me of Putin saying that bombing Iran is out of order but it's okay for him to blow the hell out of Ukraine... FO. Strong is the duplicity with many now.

 

   Bob Vylan regularly  refers to White people as "Gammons" 

Just imagine if a White person referred to Blacks as the chocolates 

1 hour ago, lamyai3 said:

Cancel culture never worked in the past, why should it work now? Look at all the movements of past decades - what horrified the parents and the establishment just made the kids want it more.

 

 

    This isn't about anyone being cancelled , this is about  what the BBC allows to be shown on their TV programmes .

Best Glastonbury ever - been going for 20 years 12 as a volunteer in recycling and do after festival so we get to 'tat' the stuff that folks leave behind and a get a 'free' ticket to boot and get on site early. It truly is a land of smiles. Wanted to see Bob and Kneecap on West Holt's but everying knew they would be totally rammed so we left them to the kidz. Nadine Shah was a revelation on Sunday though. 

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Bob Vylan regularly  refers to White people as "Gammons" 

Just imagine if a White person referred to Blacks as the chocolates 

 

Taiwanese people refer to Hong Kong Chinese as Bananas.

 

I assume you object to the term Redneck, and regularly send written complaints to the authorities when you see the term in use.

 

Similarly you are on the phone regularly about the use of Karen.

 

You are literally 7 years too late regarding the debate about the perjorative use of the word Gammon, which first emerged as an insult early in the 17th Century.

 

#gammonparadox

 

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Ruddy-faced free speech champion: "PC has gone too far. We just can't speak our mind any more"

Snowflake millennial: "Calm down, gammon, you'll do yourself a mischief"

Ruddy-faced free speech champion: "That is a racist SLUR and I am disgusted!

 

Nicholas Nickleby

 

 

 

The insult describes a state of mind, not a race. For instance Kanye West would meet the definition of a Gammon.

 

Similarly, being called a pillock isn't a sexist insult. If I call you a numpty, I am not implying you are cuckolded husband.

 

In truth some people looking to be offended by the term "Gammon" are only doing so, to legitimise their foul racist language. Ironically this subgroup of Gammons have transmogrified into Snowflakes.

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    This isn't about anyone being cancelled , this is about  what the BBC allows to be shown on their TV programmes .

 

As opposed to what Channel 4 shows.

 

 

 

23 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

Taiwanese people refer to Hong Kong Chinese as Bananas.

 

I assume you object to the term Redneck, and regularly send written complaints to the authorities when you see the term in use.

 

Similarly you are on the phone regularly about the use of Karen.

 

You are literally 7 years too late regarding the debate about the perjorative use of the word Gammon, which first emerged as an insult early in the 17th Century.

 

#gammonparadox

 

 

Nicholas Nickleby

 

 

 

The insult describes a state of mind, not a race. For instance Kanye West would meet the definition of a Gammon.

 

Similarly, being called a pillock isn't a sexist insult. If I call you a numpty, I am not implying you are cuckolded husband.

 

In truth some people looking to be offended by the term "Gammon" are only doing so, to legitimise their foul racist language. Ironically this subgroup of Gammons have transmogrified into Snowflakes.

 

   Try and keep up with the times :

 

What does a gammon mean in slang?

 

Gammon is a pejorative term popularised in British political culture since the 2010s. The term refers to the colour of a white person's flushed face, which purportedly resembles the type of pork of the same name.

 

In British slang, "gammon" has recently gained traction as a term to describe a middle-aged, often white, man who is perceived as having a reddish complexion and holding reactionary or conservative political views. It's used pejoratively, often online, and can be considered an insult

 

24 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

As opposed to what Channel 4 shows.

 

 

 

 

 Errrmm no, this isn't about what Channel 4 shows

31 minutes ago, MicroB said:

 

In truth some people looking to be offended by the term "Gammon" are only doing so, to legitimise their foul racist language. Ironically this subgroup of Gammons have transmogrified into Snowflakes.

 

   Are you referring to me ?

1 hour ago, MicroB said:

In truth some people looking to be offended by the term "Gammon" are only doing so, to legitimise their foul racist language. Ironically this subgroup of Gammons have transmogrified into Snowflakes.

 

   I am not offended by the term and also I don't use racist foul language .

  My point was that Bob Vylans main theme for topics in songs is racism  , how hes a victim of racists .

   And there's him calling White people "gammons".

Yet theres him crying  in his songs about what other [people called him