19 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

And male soldiers shouldn't fire on female soldiers.

 

Yeah, right.

 

I'm pretty sure WPc Ellie Cook and WPc Lydia Ward would resent your labeling them as being "weaker."

So you think a woman is and equal match for a violent man in a fight. You must be one of these people who think it is ok for a man to put a dress on call themselves a woman then compete in the women's sports events.

23 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

I'm pretty sure WPc Ellie Cook and WPc Lydia Ward would resent your labeling them as being "weaker."

Certainly weaker than those two violent thugs. Who by the way who fought dirty. Getting head butts in and landing massive kicks.

look mum there he is mummy says. These 2 Hard men even launched into the victim with a toddler watching close by. So you don't go in softly softly with Scum like this. I can't remember any scum, muslim or white punching female police officers in the face. They should have been arrested there and then.

16 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

look mum there he is mummy says. These 2 Hard men even launched into the victim with a toddler watching close by. So you don't go in softly softly with Scum like this. I can't remember any scum, muslim or white punching female police officers in the face. They should have been arrested there and then.

We have no idea what went on on the plane. If she had a grievance she should have taken up with the cabin crew on the plane. She clearly knows what her two sons are capable of, why get then to confront the man. Certainly puts you off flying with Qatar if that is what some of the passengers are capable of. Following the trial the mother and the two sons should be put on a no fly list.

4 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

Certainly puts you off flying with Qatar if that is what some of the passengers are capable of.

I don't think you can blame Qatar for something that happened in an airport an hour or so after a flight. Nothing to do with them.

There are undoubtedly nasty characters on every flight. If they behave themselves on the plane then what do you expect them to do? Check character references before allowing people to board?

And, forgetting the nastiness and cowardice of what they did, we don't actually know what happened on the flight. Maybe the man groped her? It doesn't justify the violence - not at all - but we don't know.

Maybe we'll find out during the trial.

7 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

I don't think you can blame Qatar for something that happened in an airport an hour or so after a flight. Nothing to do with them.

There are undoubtedly nasty characters on every flight. If they behave themselves on the plane then what do you expect them to do? Check character references before allowing people to board?

And, forgetting the nastiness and cowardice of what they did, we don't actually know what happened on the flight. Maybe the man groped her? It doesn't justify the violence - not at all - but we don't know.

Maybe we'll find out during the trial.

And did I blame Qatar? As you say we don't know what went on so not sure why you suggested that he groped her. God he must be desperate to grope that. More likely fighting over overhead bin space. But then take it up with the cabin crew. Don't resort to violence in the terminal. The amount of cctv in an airport, did they really think that they were going to get away with it. But their names are known now. Every time they fly somewhere they are going to get special attention.

 

1 hour ago, Geoff914 said:

So you think a woman is and equal match for a violent man in a fight. You must be one of these people who think it is ok for a man to put a dress on call themselves a woman then compete in the women's sports events.

 

Police officers in uniform. Their job description doesn't say, because you're weaker, keep to the back when in a confrontation and call a male officer to help.

 

One of them is a trained firearms officer. Does her job description say, only pull your weapon after a male colleague says it's ok?

 

And your totally wrong about my stance on transgenders in sports, not that it's relevant here.

 

Now, stop clutching your pearls. It's not manly.

 

 

10 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

 

Police officers in uniform. Their job description doesn't say, because you're weaker, keep to the back when in a confrontation and call a male officer to help.

 

One of them is a trained firearms officer. Does her job description say, only pull your weapon after a male colleague says it's ok?

 

And your totally wrong about my stance on transgenders in sports, not that it's relevant here.

 

Now, stop clutching your pearls. It's not manly.

 

 

You have great difficulty following a argument don't you. I wasn't suggesting that the the women officers hold back. I was talking about the level of violence shown against two women by the two accused. These two hunks of men used the same level of violence against the two women as the police officer and the man in Starbucks. Ask yourself what sort of a man uses that level of violence against a woman. Also resorting to personal slurs shows your inability to make a strong case.

4 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

You have great difficulty following a argument don't you. I wasn't suggesting that the the women officers hold back. I was talking about the level of violence shown against two women by the two accused. These two hunks of men used the same level of violence against the two women as the police officer and the man in Starbucks. Ask yourself what sort of a man uses that level of violence against a woman. Also resorting to personal slurs shows your inability to make a strong case.

 

Christ on a bike, we already know and agree on what sort of man these awful thugs are.

 

Sorry if  I'm not too good at stooping to your lower level of rationale.

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

Christ on a bike, we already know and agree on what sort of man these awful thugs are.

 

Sorry if  I'm not too good at stooping to your lower level of rationale.

There you go with the slurs again. It is sad when you can't base an argument on intellect.

This is a report on a site i come across of the kind of B/S these 2 scumbags have told there family members.

 

 

 

A family source said that the passenger had hit the elderly mother of the brothers with a trolley at the airport and abused her. The police attempted to arrest one of the brothers who resisted the arrest, calling it unfair.

Ammad and Fahir told Geo News that they were advised not to comment and were too distressed to speak and would let their legal team speak till they were back to normal.

The police not only assaulted the brothers but also arrested them and tortured them in the police van on the way to the lock-up too, according to their family members.

 

 

 

On 7/7/2025 at 4:46 AM, The Cyclist said:

 

I trust you agree, that everyone, including Police Officers, have the right to defend themselves.

 

And that when the gloves come off, no point in pussyfooting around, they really come off.

The brothers probably wouldn't have tried that in France or Germany. 

10 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

This is a report on a site i come across of the kind of B/S these 2 scumbags have told there family members.

 

 

 

A family source said that the passenger had hit the elderly mother of the brothers with a trolley at the airport and abused her. The police attempted to arrest one of the brothers who resisted the arrest, calling it unfair.

Ammad and Fahir told Geo News that they were advised not to comment and were too distressed to speak and would let their legal team speak till they were back to normal.

The police not only assaulted the brothers but also arrested them and tortured them in the police van on the way to the lock-up too, according to their family members.

 

 

 

wonder who the gutless 1 is who keeps uploading the Thumbs down Emoji    Coward hiding behind a keyboard.

15 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

The police not only assaulted the brothers but also arrested them and tortured them in the police van on the way to the lock-up too, according to their family members.

 

 

 

Aren't those under arrest normally put into a small self contained cubicle in the van?. The lock up, sounds like Arthur Daley arrested them.

38 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

Aren't those under arrest normally put into a small self contained cubicle in the van?. The lock up, sounds like Arthur Daley arrested them.

Was that before or after he sustained his head injury causing the swelling on the Brain that required treatment ?

2 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

You have great difficulty following a argument don't you. I wasn't suggesting that the the women officers hold back. I was talking about the level of violence shown against two women by the two accused. These two hunks of men used the same level of violence against the two women as the police officer and the man in Starbucks. Ask yourself what sort of a man uses that level of violence against a woman. Also resorting to personal slurs shows your inability to make a strong case.

Quite, this new video just released provide a harrowing account of the injuries caused on the female officer:

 

Unfortunately it will not render because of the violence, you need to click and watch it:

 

 

https://x.com/GBPolitcs/status/1943348371894243380

 

Here's the embedded video: ☹️

 

4 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

wonder who the gutless 1 is who keeps uploading the Thumbs down Emoji    Coward hiding behind a keyboard.

Oh look a pair of Cowards

 

Some analysis from a barrister.

7 hours ago, Lancelot01 said:

The brothers probably wouldn't have tried that in France or Germany. 

 

They might have , as you cannot fix stupid.

 

The outcome would have been very different, with the pair of them resembling T-Bags.

 

 

13 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

Unless by some shear fluke the whole jury is people of Pakistani origins then they are certain to be found guilty.

 

Yes they will be found guilty.

 

It's the sentences that will be interesting. Even though the 2 tier sentencing guidelines are not official yet, they are still being applied by judges under Britain's 2 tiered justice system. 

 

I expect a very lenient sentence. The only thing stopping that is the publicity surrounding the case but that didn't stop them rejecting Lucy Connolly's appeal against her ridiculously harsh sentence for a nasty tweet. 

10 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

This is a report on a site i come across of the kind of B/S these 2 scumbags have told there family members.

 

 

 

A family source said that the passenger had hit the elderly mother of the brothers with a trolley at the airport and abused her. The police attempted to arrest one of the brothers who resisted the arrest, calling it unfair.

Ammad and Fahir told Geo News that they were advised not to comment and were too distressed to speak and would let their legal team speak till they were back to normal.

The police not only assaulted the brothers but also arrested them and tortured them in the police van on the way to the lock-up too, according to their family members.

 

 

 

 

And what precise value does this unattributed "site I come across" offer to this discourse? It's probably already inadmissible at the trial.

 

We already know and agree they are BS'ing scumbags and need to do time.

1 hour ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yes they will be found guilty.

 

It's the sentences that will be interesting. Even though the 2 tier sentencing guidelines are not official yet, they are still being applied by judges under Britain's 2 tiered justice system. 

 

I expect a very lenient sentence. The only thing stopping that is the publicity surrounding the case but that didn't stop them rejecting Lucy Connolly's appeal against her ridiculously harsh sentence for a nasty tweet. 

 

Despite the predictably 2-tier posting on this thread, I agree that the punishment could be inadequate and disappointing. However, beating up some 2-tier police officers may impact the 2-tier punishment meted out.

12 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

We have no idea what went on on the plane. If she had a grievance she should have taken up with the cabin crew on the plane. She clearly knows what her two sons are capable of, why get then to confront the man. Certainly puts you off flying with Qatar if that is what some of the passengers are capable of. Following the trial the mother and the two sons should be put on a no fly list.

The mother was the catalyst for the whole incident...as said above...she knew exactly what her sons were capable of and chose to use them to seek retribution....arrogant numpty.

Im expecting a light sentance they certainly won't be locked up for fear of upsetting the Muslim locals and them turning on Starmer costing him thousands in votes in future county council elections especially in high Muslim areas in the North of England, bearing in mind most Mayors are Muslim. Don't be surprised if the jury members are warned off either. 

2 hours ago, BarraMarra said:

Im expecting a light sentance they certainly won't be locked up for fear of upsetting the Muslim locals and them turning on Starmer costing him thousands in votes in future county council elections especially in high Muslim areas in the North of England, bearing in mind most Mayors are Muslim. Don't be surprised if the jury members are warned off either. 

Excellent, another conspiracy theory (jurors will be "warned off").

You guys are funny. First of all it was "why no arrests, it's because they are Muslim". Then they get arrested. Then it's "but no charges, it's because they are Muslim". Investigations complete, complaints against the police dismissed. Charges are brought. Then it's "Why has there been no trial, it's because they are Muslim and it's being buried."  Trial starts. "Yeah, but but but it's only because of Farage". 

And now it's "Starmer will bury it, can't upset Muslims, the jurors will be warned off and they won't do jail time". It's just hilarious to watch.

If, as expected, they get found guilty and are sentenced to custodial sentences what will it be then? Maybe start thinking of something now so you are ready. Will it be because of Farage? Yaxley-Lenon maybe? It can't just be the criminal justice system working in the way it always works, as it has been all along!

 

Why dont you just FO joe your pissing people off and driving members off posting with your posts just do us a favour and FO.

BTW, there's some lengthy clips from the existing video, plus police bodycam running now on the Daily Express.

4 minutes ago, transam said:

Not me............🤔

No surprise.

5 minutes ago, transam said:

Not me............🤔

 

 OK, apart from @transam, hands up all those who are pissed off with @BarraMarra repeatedly telling @josephbloggs to FO, just because @BarraMarra's endless loop of witless arguments are laughably weak and @josephbloggs keeps calling him on it?