2 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Have you also noticed that they are quick to admonish those that they disagree with by making comments like, "I never mentioned race, so why have you brought it up?"

 

A bit like this you mean ?
 

2 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

I didn't mention delays to the prosecution. Why do you have the ability to read things that are not written ? 

 

2 hours ago, The Cyclist said:

Again, I never mentioned the media being investigated.

 

 

I have mentioned race on the thread, it went like this.

 

Islam is not a Race, never has been and never will be. In response to others who throw the race card around like confetti at a wedding.

2 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

It makes no sense, to anyone with a brain to go chasing the person that leaked it.

 

It does if someone involved in law enforcement did. Apart from the law, which is for everyone, police have a code of conduct. It's possible, yes my supposition again, that a police officer may have broken that. And that's serious. The police are beleaguered and (in some cases rightly) disrespected enough without their own going rogue, just because his emotions go the better of him.

 

8 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

Unless of course, there really is an establishment effort to keep all things Muslim related to wrongdoing out of the Media and the public eye.

 

While some on here have elevated the fact that it was a female police officer's nose that was broken, as if her gender makes the assault worse.

3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

It does if someone involved in law enforcement did.

 

And was it ? I have no doubt the howls would have been centred around " It must have been a Police Officer "

 

4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Apart from the law, which is for everyone,

 

I  think you need to rethink that statement.

 

The days of Policing without " Fear or Favour " disappeared around the time Tony Blair took Office in No10 in 1997.

 

 

6 minutes ago, The Cyclist said:

 

And was it ? I have no doubt the howls would have been centred around " It must have been a Police Officer "

 

 

I  think you need to rethink that statement.

 

The days of Policing without " Fear or Favour " disappeared around the time Tony Blair took Office in No10 in 1997.

 

 

 

Don't presume to tell me what to think.

 

So the UK is a police state now?

 

I'm done.

 

Thanks for playing.

3 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

Once again, the delays to the prosecution was to make sure the whole event was correctly and factually reported and for neither party to be blindsided by some else's, previously undisclosed smartphone video.

 

This ensures a thorough investigation and a prosecution that won't be at risk of being tossed out because someone was being less than honest.

 

If you think that the media needs to be investigated for manipulating any video, or the person who gave them (probably sold to them for a few hundred quid) the video, needs to be charged, that's a pretty sad indictment on your take on what makes for a safe society.

Why do you think the Police ask the public to provide them with any smart phone videos to help there investigations ? Sometimes they ask.

Just now, NanLaew said:

Don't presume to tell me what to think.

 

Bite me. 
 

Whats wrong, not like facts.

 

Yes we are done, I'll just give you a 2 word name to watch for in the future.

 

That name is Maggie Oliver.

 

If she lives long enough, she is going to spill her guts at an upcoming National Inquiry.

 

Then you will really get to see what has really been happening in the UK.

On 7/8/2025 at 12:02 AM, Photoguy21 said:

But say something hurtful on the internet and you will be before a judge within hours.

 

It's how the UK rolls now.

 

Sad isn't it.

 

Even Canuckistan isn't as bad.

 

Yet.

6 hours ago, NanLaew said:

What a load of totally unsubstantiated rubbish, but thanks for sharing the thoughts of the grandstanding grifter party, regardless of how hopelessly clueless they were back then, and how that really hasn't changed. Note they didn't have the "Starbucks video" either.

 

The clown party of 4 (and 2 suspended).

Clown party ? why are they ahead on all polls Nan? if it wasn't for Farage going out himself filming the boats coming over the channel the numbers would be surpressed. He warned us unless it is not stopped we will suffer in the next few years with rising housing, rising hospital appointments and dentist appointments. There not laughing at him now. Everything he said has become a reality now and its to late to stop it.

4 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Clown party ? why are they ahead on all polls Nan? if it wasn't for Farage going out himself filming the boats coming over the channel the numbers would be surpressed. He warned us unless it is not stopped we will suffer in the next few years with rising housing, rising hospital appointments and dentist appointments. There not laughing at him now. Everything he said has become a reality now and its to late to stop it.

Damn those immigrants and their constant dentistry!!

2 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

 

 

Do you honestly think that everyone just puts their hands up and goes peaceably whenever a policeman lays hands on them? These police apparently thought so... or maybe they momentarily forgot their basic training and ignored the safety of the general public. 

 

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

 

 

Who on here is defending their actions?

Appears to me you are........

1 hour ago, josephbloggs said:

Nigel Farage's wet dream.

I can't believe that any grown man can believe what you say or worship a proven grifter so sycophantically and unquestionably. It really makes anything you write immediately dismissible. It is quite amusing though. Now bringing BLM and George Floyd in to things, wow.

Jeez.

 

So why do you think they released the video of the police kicking them so long before they released the video of the attacks that actually led to the arrest? 

 

Why do you think it took so long to bring charges when it was all recorded on CCTV and was very clear exactly what happened? Compared to say, the tweeters about the Southport slaughter of kids that were arrested, charged and sentenced to unusually long sentences within a week... 

 

You've got no response to anything, other than a weak and predictable strawman about Farage which you then use as justification not to refute any of the points. Why don't you refute them? Because you can't. Weak as... 😄

 

Self loathing Liberals... Jeez.

1 hour ago, NanLaew said:

 

WATCH the video.

 

They DID go in hard.

 

They totally failed to SAFELY apprehend ANYONE.

 

I have no experience as a police officer, but coming from two generations of UK law enforcement, I am certainly not about "victim blaming the police."

 

Those pair of hoodlums need locking up, and the sooner, the better.

They have to go in hard Nan what do you want the police to say when someone is getting a beating ? " Escuse me Sir please stop attacking this Man " You as a trained police officer are trained in restraining Teqhniques. Sometime if the threat is severe they need to quickly deal with the threat immediatly if it means kneeling on a person to stop him so be it. Most police don't do this they just wade in with there Batons cracking heads.

10 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Damn those immigrants and their constant dentistry!!

Sums you up posting on this thread joe just winding up you don't want to input this thread do you joe. Your rumbled as a wind up Merchant.

What we are not discussing is what could have happened if these 2 thugs managed to take down one of the armed coppers and take his gun ?? That was a possibility. Remember the first interview with there lawyer came out with  " His cliant is in surgery now for a bleed on the Brain " what a load of crap. I bet he doesn't admit to that remark when he stands giving evidence.

18 minutes ago, JonnyF said:

 

So why do you think they released the video of the police kicking them so long before they released the video of the attacks that actually led to the arrest? 

 

Why do you think it took so long to bring charges when it was all recorded on CCTV and was very clear exactly what happened? Compared to say, the tweeters about the Southport slaughter of kids that were arrested, charged and sentenced to unusually long sentences within a week... 

 

You've got no response to anything, other than a weak and predictable strawman about Farage which you then use as justification not to refute any of the points. Why don't you refute them? Because you can't. Weak as... 😄

 

Read the thread. I have posting all the reasoning twice, maybe three times now, in length. And each time none of you respond to it. Not once. You just come back with conspiracy nonsense and Farage licking. 

Go back, look at my posts, some of them are long and explain it all, logically. Wondering why no one responds to them? Because it doesn't fit the conspiracy theory.

 

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Self loathing Liberals... Jeez.

Phew, you almost got through an entire post without a childish cliche - I was getting worried.

This is my last response to you Joe, your a wind up merchant. Now your trying to tell us we are all Conspiracy Theorists Wow.

16 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

Sums you up posting on this thread joe just winding up you don't want to input this thread do you joe. Your rumbled as a wind up Merchant.

I have responded many times with lengthy, reasoned, and logical posts. And you fail to respond to any of them. You just come out with conspiracy nonsense and don't engage in logical debate. And throw out ridiculous stuff about dentists - you comment deserved it.

29 minutes ago, petermik said:

 

Appears to me you are........

Excellent, then I am sure you can quote any post where I did. I'll just wait here, I am sure it won't take you long.

And while you're looking just skip over the several posts where I have said I hope they get found guilty and serve jail time. 

 

9 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

What we are not discussing is what could have happened if these 2 thugs managed to take down one of the armed coppers and take his gun ?? That was a possibility. Remember the first interview with there lawyer came out with  " His cliant is in surgery now for a bleed on the Brain " what a load of crap. I bet he doesn't admit to that remark when he stands giving evidence.

Great, let's talk about things that are not relevant and didn't happen, I'll play.

What could have happened if one of these thugs managed to take down a copper and take their gun? He might have shot them? They might have shot him? Why is this important to speculate on exactly?
 

This happened 1 hour ago. This is the Clown MP farage on his own Boat witnessing and filming with GB News a boat full of fighting age men crossing the channel this morning. They filmed the french coast guard handing out life vests then once they were escorted out of french waters the English border force was waiting to pick them up to deliver them to Dover The cheeky frogs even told the migrants to hand there life vests back to the french on the boat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

This happened 1 hour ago. This is the Clown MP farage on his own Boat witnessing and filming with GB News a boat full of fighting age men crossing the channel this morning. They filmed the french coast guard handing out life vests then once they were escorted out of french waters the English border force was waiting to pick them up to deliver them to Dover The cheeky frogs even told the migrants to hand there life vests back to the french on the boat.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What has this got to do with the trials of the Manchester Airport attackers again?

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Great, let's talk about things that are not relevant and didn't happen, I'll play.
 

 

1 minute ago, josephbloggs said:

What has this got to do with the trials of the Manchester Airport attackers again?

 

 

   ^ You started a game .

He wont respond Nick because he can't play the game and slag off Farage the film crew says it all.

2 minutes ago, BarraMarra said:

He wont respond Nick because he can't play the game and slag off Farage the film crew says it all.

Ha ha, says the man who has never replied to one of my factual posts in response to conspiracy claims (cover up etc, two tier nonsense etc). Just pops up, shouts about "what if they took a gun"? (They didn't, and why the question anyway? I don't get it). And now popping up with a random video about dinghies in the channel.

Again, What has any of this got to do with the trials of the Manchester Airport attackers? Care to respond for once?

4 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

So why do you think they released the video of the police kicking them so long before they released the video of the attacks that actually led to the arrest? 

 

 

I only saw a video of the initial assault 2 or 3 nights ago. On the BBC news site they had the actual assault in Starbucks plus some new footage in the car park. I looked again the next day to post here and it was gone. Whether it was a leak before it was shown in court so the BBC took it down I don't know. This was the only time I have seen footage, and I have searched a lot, of the Starbucks assault that kicked this all off.

If anybody does have a link can they post it here. 

5 hours ago, NanLaew said:

 

It does if someone involved in law enforcement did. Apart from the law, which is for everyone, police have a code of conduct. It's possible, yes my supposition again, that a police officer may have broken that. And that's serious. The police are beleaguered and (in some cases rightly) disrespected enough without their own going rogue, just because his emotions go the better of him.

 

 

While some on here have elevated the fact that it was a female police officer's nose that was broken, as if her gender makes the assault worse.

Are you talking about the cctv footage released at the time taken in the car park? My guess it was somebody from security at the airport.

Sorry but the vicious assault of "two" female officers does make a difference. Two hunking great, very violent men against two weaker women. That is like saying an assault by a violent adult against a 14 year old boy isn't more significant had it been against an adult male. Or may be a violent young male against a 70 year old male.

6 minutes ago, Geoff914 said:

I only saw a video of the initial assault 2 or 3 nights ago. On the BBC news site they had the actual assault in Starbucks plus some new footage in the car park. I looked again the next day to post here and it was gone. Whether it was a leak before it was shown in court so the BBC took it down I don't know. This was the only time I have seen footage, and I have searched a lot, of the Starbucks assault that kicked this all off.

If anybody does have a link can they post it here. 

I think this thread has had its time Geoff till the court hands down a sentance. However i found the video of the Muslim enter Starbucks and the young brother in Blue attacks the man pointed out by the mother inside Starbucks. the police arrived later.

 

 

 

1 hour ago, BarraMarra said:

I think this thread has had its time Geoff till the court hands down a sentance. However i found the video of the Muslim enter Starbucks and the young brother in Blue attacks the man pointed out by the mother inside Starbucks. the police arrived later.

You are probably right. We have all seen the videos including the footage in Starbucks. Might as well just see how this pans out. Unless by some shear fluke the whole jury is people of Pakistani origins then they are certain to be found guilty.

 

 

 

 

Just now, Geoff914 said:

 

Yes probably right. All the videos are in the public domain. We can all see what happened. Just a shame that the copper lost his temper, fully understandable I think under the circumstances. But it was lucky the totally innocent man in Starbucks wasn't very seriously injured or the police or other members if the public in the car park.

2 hours ago, Geoff914 said:

Are you talking about the cctv footage released at the time taken in the car park? My guess it was somebody from security at the airport.

Sorry but the vicious assault of "two" female officers does make a difference. Two hunking great, very violent men against two weaker women. That is like saying an assault by a violent adult against a 14 year old boy isn't more significant had it been against an adult male. Or may be a violent young male against a 70 year old male.

 

And male soldiers shouldn't fire on female soldiers.

 

Yeah, right.

 

I'm pretty sure WPc Ellie Cook and WPc Lydia Ward would resent your labeling them as being "weaker."