Middle East Macron's Bold Move: France to Recognise Palestinian State

[spidermike007]

1 hour ago, HappyExpat57 said:

 

Are they still calling them Freedom Fries?

Sorry to inform, they never called them freedom fries. That was just a ridiculously dumb and juvenile construct on the part of Bush Jr. and his group of goons, while they lied through their teeth giving us every excuse under the sun why we should invade a country which was not our enemy, and start a 20-year, multi trillion dollar useless war.

 

If we had a true enemy at the time it was Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. The French are downright heroic for saying no to the circus clown. 

[Nick Carter icp]

The Nazi referencing anti Israelis are goose stepping in full force today .

See who can squeeze  gas chamber mention in or a Himmler mention in

[xylophone]

16 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

They saw Hamas as a way out their concentration camp. Just like many Irish supported the IRA freedom fighters.

So what you're saying is that the Palestinians supported Hamas in fighting the Israelis?

 

[Nick Carter icp]

22 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

They saw Hamas as a way out their concentration camp. Just like many Irish supported the IRA freedom fighters.

 

   Many Irish enjoyed fighting so much that they've joined the Palestinians just to continue fighting .

   Fighting, attacking Jews , bombs , terrorism  : Perfect cause for some Irish people 

[angryguy]

30 minutes ago, xylophone said:

I can't answer that but I would bet good money that if they did get the hostages out, they would then move in to completely raze Gaza to the ground and try to move the Palestinians out to elsewhere. Once that had been done, then Hamas would control nothing.

 

IMO, Palestinians have been complicit in the formation and support of Hamas and now they are reaping the rewards that they didn't foresee.

I didnt think leftists could think outside the narrow box of MSM, you are the rare exception

[Chomper Higgot]

19 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

The Nazi referencing anti Israelis are goose stepping in full force today .

See who can squeeze  gas chamber mention in or a Himmler mention in

Up until that post the Nazis got mentioned 9 times, 6 of which were by you.

 

There were no prior mentions in the thread of gas chambers or Himmler.

[xylophone]

6 minutes ago, angryguy said:

I didnt think leftists could think outside the narrow box of MSM, you are the rare exception

As I have never been a "leftist" or a Biden supporter for that matter, I thank you for your misplaced compliment!

[Nick Carter icp]

5 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Up until that post the Nazis got mentioned 9 times, 6 of which were by you.

 

 

   Untrue . 6 posts  mentioned the Nazis .

Before I mentioned it  

Here :

 

Nazis left the Warsaw ghetto

'

'Gaza was a concentration camp,

'

this is a bit like when Hitler recognised Eva Braun 

 

The final solution 

 

Neither did the Nazis control the Warsaw ghetto.

 

Palestinians in a concentration camp 

 

 

 

[Chris.C]

23 minutes ago, xylophone said:

So what you're saying is that the Palestinians supported Hamas in fighting the Israelis?

 

I’m saying the IDF are concentration camp guards, who don’t have the right of defense. Gazans are desperate and understandably hate the IDF.

Do you support the ethnic cleansing/ starvation happening now?

[Chris.C]

1 minute ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Untrue . 6 posts  mentioned the Nazis .

Before I mentioned it  

Here :

 

Nazis left the Warsaw ghetto

'

'Gaza was a concentration camp,

'

this is a bit like when Hitler recognised Eva Braun 

 

The final solution 

 

Neither did the Nazis control the Warsaw ghetto.

 

Palestinians in a concentration camp 

 

 

 

When will you stop supporting war crimes.

Concentration camps are not exclusive to Nazis,.

[Mavideol]

2 hours ago, loong said:

I wondered that myself.

The Palestinians have been carrying out terrorist attacks and firing missiles at Israel for decades.
All Israel has done is taken steps to protect itself.

always 2 versions to any story... it the glass half full or half empty

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, boloaf said:

France has a history of surrendering to invaders.

give an example, surrender to whom

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, Chris.C said:

More than 140 of the 193 UN member states already recognise Palestine – including Spain and several other EU nations – while major powers like the US and UK still withhold formal recognition.

Macron’s move comes amid a worsening humanitarian catastrophe in Gaza. According to Gaza’s health ministry, over 59,000 people have been killed since Israel’s military campaign began. UNRWA reports that one in five children in Gaza City is malnourished, and over 100 international aid organisations have warned of mass starvation unless immediate action is taken.

Israel maintains control over the flow of aid into Gaza and denies imposing a siege – blaming Hamas for the humanitarian crisis. However, condemnation is growing. UK Prime Minister Sir Keir Starmer has described the suffering in Gaza as “unspeakable and indefensible.”

France’s recognition of Palestine is bold – but it will only be meaningful if it leads to real change. The world must now push for a just and viable Palestinian state – not another version of the old offers where one side gets sovereignty, and the other gets silence.

how many countries recognize Israel

[Mavideol]

1 hour ago, proton said:

 

If you believe Hamas propaganda

always 2 versions to a story

[Grusa]

I have always said, and continue to do so:-

"A plague on both your houses!"

The world would be a better place if both warring nations simply ceased to be. Along with several of their neighbours.

(Preferably, without nuclear fallout).

[Nick Carter icp]

20 minutes ago, Chris.C said:

When will you stop supporting war crimes.

 

 

   I do not support war crimes .

Do you support the Palestinian  war criminals from Oct 7 th onwards and the daily war crimes committed by the Palestinians since that date 

[Yagoda]

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

See who can squeeze  gas chamber mention in or a Himmler mention in

You mean the Himmler who ran the gas chambers that the French government helped fill with Jewish children.

 

Least the Ukrainians had the guts, if you can call it that, to shoot kids.

 

France should declare war on Israel. Hahahahahaha

[stevenl]

4 hours ago, Captor said:

how the whole thing started by Hamas on October 7, 2023

There is your mistake. Nothing started on October 7. 

[Nick Carter icp]

7 minutes ago, stevenl said:

There is your mistake. Nothing started on October 7. 

 

   Yes it did,

The current war started on Oct 7 th 2023

Israel declared war on Oct 7 th 2023

[Peter Crow]

What an IAH (Irrelevant Arse Hole),

 

[placnx]

4 hours ago, loong said:

I really don't understand how anyone can recognise a Palestinian state when the Palestinians have not declared a state.

They have been offered a state many times and refused every time.

They also refused offers made before 1967 when they decided to identify as Palestinians to make it seem like they had a legitimate claim. Prior to 1967 they identified as Arabs or South Syrians.

What the Palestinians were offered from 1993 on was not really a sovereign state. They were really bamboozled in the Oslo negotiations. There were no safeguards in the case of bad faith by Israel, which is what they got. Settlements and more settlements.

 

Now an ex-mayor of Jerusalem is proposing that the "sheikhs" in various urban areas, starting with Hebron, form independent entities to govern themselves. It sounds like South African bantustans. That fits snugly into the Apartheid well documanted by Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International. 

 

Your claim about Palestinian identity corresponds to the fantasy: A land without people for a people without land. How preposterous.

[Thingamabob]

4 hours ago, Hanaguma said:

Go try that in Free Palestine, see how you get on.  

 

You would face torture followed by a slow and painful death.

 

[placnx]

4 hours ago, proton said:

Where is this so called Palestine state? 

The ICJ last year ruled that it's Gaza and the West Bank, and that the Zionist settlers should move out ASAP.

[placnx]

4 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

  Point is that Anti Israeli frequently talk about Nazi .

People who oppose the Jewish state have an interest in a group that tried to annihilate  Jews .

   Anti Israelis seem to have Nazi sympathies 

Maybe Christians have a different moral view: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. What we see Israelis doing is a corruption of this thinking: Do unto others as has been done to you. Genocide begets genocide?

[Nick Carter icp]

4 minutes ago, placnx said:

Maybe Christians have a different moral view: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. What we see Israelis doing is a corruption of this thinking: Do unto others as has been done to you. Genocide begets genocide?

 

   Israel's attitude is that if you attack us then will will annihilate you .

Israel needs to warn other Countries off from attacking them .

Israel's survival depends on it 

[placnx]

2 hours ago, Mavideol said:

always 2 versions to a story

Yes, and the perpetrators will say that they were just following orders. There are a lot of selfie videos they made happily committing war crimes, so their version may not be too credible.

[placnx]

2 hours ago, Yagoda said:

You mean the Himmler who ran the gas chambers that the French government helped fill with Jewish children.

 

Least the Ukrainians had the guts, if you can call it that, to shoot kids.

 

France should declare war on Israel. Hahahahahaha

Sanctions would be more effective.

[placnx]

11 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Israel's attitude is that if you attack us then will will annihilate you .

Israel needs to warn other Countries off from attacking them .

Israel's survival depends on it 

One shouldn't take violence advocated in one's holy book too seriously. Israel will undo itself by its wanton obsession to dominate the Middle East. Try living in peace for a change.

[Nick Carter icp]

2 minutes ago, placnx said:

One shouldn't take violence advocated in one's holy book too seriously. Israel will undo itself by its wanton obsession to dominate the Middle East. Try living in peace for a change.

 

   Israel cannot live in peace when the neighbours keep attacking Israel .

Israel would preferer a peaceful existence

[Yagoda]

9 minutes ago, placnx said:

Sanctions would be more effective.

They wont. Trump wont let them. As he said today about it: "It doesnt mean anything".