23 minutes ago, stevenl said:

A lie you keep repeating.

No, a truth you call a lie.

 

Democrats brag they are going to shut the government down unless they get changes to previously passed legislation, such that they can give "free" healthcare to non-citizens, including illegal aliens. 

 

Then, after the Democrats shut the government down (the only promise they have kept in years), Democrats blame Republicans for the shutdown. 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, a truth you call a lie.

 

Democrats brag they are going to shut the government down unless they get changes to previously passed legislation, such that they can give "free" healthcare to non-citizens, including illegal aliens. 

 

Then, after the Democrats shut the government down (the only promise they have kept in years), Democrats blame Republicans for the shutdown. 

@stevenl

5 minutes ago, KhunLA said:

@stevenl

They were all lying, they did not really mean it!

17 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No, a truth you call a lie.

 

Democrats brag they are going to shut the government down unless they get changes to previously passed legislation, such that they can give "free" healthcare to non-citizens, including illegal aliens. 

 

Then, after the Democrats shut the government down (the only promise they have kept in years), Democrats blame Republicans for the shutdown. 

Looking forward to a quote from a democrat saying that.

45 minutes ago, stevenl said:

A lie you keep repeating.

As of Jan. 1, 2024, adults in California ages 26 through 49 are eligible for Medi-Cal, regardless of their immigration status. All other Medi-Cal eligibility rules, including income limits, still apply. Find out more on the Department of Health Care Services website.

5 minutes ago, stevenl said:

Looking forward to a quote from a democrat saying that.

 

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

Now all you need to do is explain how Democrats who are in the minority managed to shutdown the Government.

 

Give it your best go.

 

 

 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/videos/democrat-government-shutdown/

 

https://appropriations.house.gov/news/press-releases/democrats-chose-shutdown-americans-are-paying-price

 

https://apnews.com/article/democrats-republicans-shutdown-negotiations-votes-health-care-29b11579bfc694a52b9e8e272a47bb91

 

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/government-shutdown-drags-weekend-senate-democrats-block-gop-plan

 

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-lede/why-democrats-shut-down-the-government

 

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/5537624-government-shutdown-senate-vote/

 

 

IS that enough, or are you so stubborn not to see the trend here? 

What the worst part is, the Dems voted no on a bill that they have passed yearly when the presidency was Democratic. The Dems are doing this deliberately without care or concern how it effects the people. 

They have voted on this same bill many times in the past under Biden and passed it. There were not changes to it now either. 

 

JOHN FETTERMAN

This first-term Democratic maverick from Pennsylvania has been firm in his commitment to never vote against legislation keeping the government operating.

"I won’t vote for the chaos of shuttering our government," Fetterman, 56, said in a statement late on Tuesday. "My vote was for our country over my party."

 

ANGUS KING

The 81-year-old Maine senator is an independent who aligns with Democrats and has been in the Senate since 2013.

"I could not, in good conscience, vote to shut the government down and hand even greater power to the trio of Donald Trump, Stephen Miller and Russell Vought," King said in a statement, referring to Trump's Deputy Chief of Staff Miller and Office of Management and Budget Director Vought.

 

These are Dem senators who have crossed the line and went against the Dems wishes to keep the government shut down. 

2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said:

The lie is ‘Democrats shutdown the Government’.

 
Let’s see if you can explain how they did so while in the minority.

 

 

They may be the minority. But this means nothing when 60 votes are needed to pass it. Obviously you know nothing about politics and use your feelings toward Trump to base judgement. 

Let me explain how the Dems can shut down the government with the 60 votes needed to pass the bill to keep the government from shutting down. 

Party affiliation

Affiliation		Members
	Republican Party	53
	Democratic Party	45
	Independent	2
Total		100

 

I do hope this enlightens you. As well as my other reply you requested. 

1 hour ago, Yellowtail said:

 

That's not the claim you made. You know it and keep repeating the lie.

37 minutes ago, stevenl said:

That's not the claim you made. You know it and keep repeating the lie.

What claim am I making? What I said was:

 

"Democrats brag they are going to shut the government down unless they get changes to previously passed legislation, such that they can give "free" healthcare to non-citizens, including illegal aliens. 

 

Then, after the Democrats shut the government down (the only promise they have kept in years), Democrats blame Republicans for the shutdown."

W

What is not true?

 

Even Vox says Democrats shut it down: 

"The real reason Democrats forced a government shutdown"

https://www.vox.com/politics/463408/government-shutdown-democrats-demands-health-care

 

And CNN is quoting democrats blaming Republicans for the shutdown:

"Democratic leaders blame Trump and GOP as government shutdown deadline lapses" 

And: 

"Democrats condemn GOP for government shutdown"

 

September 30, 2025: US federal government shuts down after Senate fails to pass funding plans | CNN Politics

On 10/3/2025 at 10:01 AM, howlee101 said:

I wake up each day to irritate the likes of you and the rest of the liberals.  So success for today

And that is the highlight of your day?

 

What a sad life you must lead if that is the best that you can offer.

1 minute ago, billd766 said:

And that is the highlight of your day?

 

What a sad life you must lead if that is the best that you can offer.

Yep, a sad life of causing the left to respond as I expect you, and other lefties, with grimaced and red faces.  Do you need a sombrero?

Great news, $8,000,000,000.00 in green-energy boondoggles canceled, with more to come!

Oh, and 18,000,000,000.00 in infrastructure funding to New York on hold! 

 

Great work Senator Schumer!

On 10/3/2025 at 12:00 PM, Slowhand225 said:

Good because everyone I know that had insurance through their employer paid more for less after that passed. Mine went up 470.00 a month for 2 people. So we subsidized those without. 

 

so true   thanx to Obama care,,   we paid over $1300 a month for 2 people and still had a crappy deductable ..     worst thing to ever happen   turning big pharma and ins co on the people

And Trump continues with his unlawful bullying, thinking he is above the law. 

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/white-house-threatens-not-pay-125832877.html

 

White House Threatens to Not Pay Workers Furloughed by Shutdown

(Bloomberg) -- The White House is considering not paying federal employees for days they have been furloughed during the shutdown, according to a person familiar with the matter, a move that could run afoul of a law that mandates workers get backpay once the government re-opens.

 

Axios, which reported earlier on the memo, said some White House officials believe an amendment to the law allows leeway over whether or not to provide backpay to government workers. Democrats quickly refuted the memo.

 

“I think the law is clear,” Senator Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, told CNN Tuesday. “These federal workers will have their paycheck delayed, but if the Trump administration is now arguing that they’re going to eliminate the paychecks of those who are furloughed, that is an outrage. It is a violation of the law.”

 

Truth be told ...

 

GOPer Slams Mike Johnson for Shutting Down Government to Dodge Epstein

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/201406/thomas-massie-mike-johnson-government-shutdown-dodge-epstein

1 minute ago, sharot724 said:

Truth be told ...

 

GOPer Slams Mike Johnson for Shutting Down Government to Dodge Epstein

 

https://newrepublic.com/post/201406/thomas-massie-mike-johnson-government-shutdown-dodge-epstein

Massie is crazy.   The government shut down because the Democrats voted against keeping the government open. 

1 minute ago, TedG said:

Massie is crazy.   The government shut down because the Democrats voted against keeping the government open. 

He is one hell of a competent leader 

https://cdn.jwplayer.com/previews/8tS6cIJv

 

 

 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/johnson-cornered-on-claims-hes-snubbing-democrat-to-avoid-epstein-files-vote/

 

lol

 

 

8 minutes ago, sharot724 said:

He is one hell of a competent leader 

Massie?  No he is not a competent leader.  He has no concept of working to get other people on his side.  

20 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

so true   thanx to Obama care,,   we paid over $1300 a month for 2 people and still had a crappy deductable ..     worst thing to ever happen   turning big pharma and ins co on the people

it’s time for people to admit the ACA failed.  

1 minute ago, TedG said:

Massie?  No he is not a competent leader.  He has no concept of working to get other people on his side.  

Leadership 101 dude. Anyone willing to speak up when thier own party fails to do so is an honest American hero

6 hours ago, TedG said:

it’s time for people to admit the ACA failed.  

Hardly. But you have a solution, right. LOL

15 hours ago, CallumWK said:

And Trump continues with his unlawful bullying, thinking he is above the law. 

 

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/white-house-threatens-not-pay-125832877.html

 

White House Threatens to Not Pay Workers Furloughed by Shutdown

(Bloomberg) -- The White House is considering not paying federal employees for days they have been furloughed during the shutdown, according to a person familiar with the matter, a move that could run afoul of a law that mandates workers get backpay once the government re-opens.

 

Axios, which reported earlier on the memo, said some White House officials believe an amendment to the law allows leeway over whether or not to provide backpay to government workers. Democrats quickly refuted the memo.

 

“I think the law is clear,” Senator Dick Durbin, an Illinois Democrat, told CNN Tuesday. “These federal workers will have their paycheck delayed, but if the Trump administration is now arguing that they’re going to eliminate the paychecks of those who are furloughed, that is an outrage. It is a violation of the law.”

 

No one should get paid for the days they do not work.

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

No one should get paid for the days they do not work.

House GOP shouldn’t be paid for not working too. 

15 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

House GOP shouldn’t be paid for not working too. 

As I understand it, House GOP members are continuing to work to reopen the government, even though it was Schumer that shut the government down. 

 

Do you understand it differently? 

 

But again, anyone, right or left, not working during the Schumer-Shutdown should not get paid for the days they don't work. 

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

As I understand it, House GOP members are continuing to work to reopen the government, even though it was Schumer that shut the government down. 

 

Do you understand it differently? 

 

But again, anyone, right or left, not working during the Schumer-Shutdown should not get paid for the days they don't work. 

Not exactly what’s happening. GOP hold the gravel and MAGA Mike told his representatives to take a break. No one around to negotiate. Understandable as the GOP is under the grasped of the President who want to seize the shutdown to lay off federal employees.

 

As I know, most polls indicate that the GOP is responsible for the shutdown. The Dems want to alleviate the increase costs of Affordable Care hardship for the people while the GOP doesn’t want even to discuss. The longer the shutdown, the more people will blame the GOP. Just hope no plane accidents this time. Enough blame to the GOP. 

1 hour ago, Eric Loh said:

Not exactly what’s happening. GOP hold the gravel and MAGA Mike told his representatives to take a break. No one around to negotiate. Understandable as the GOP is under the grasped of the President who want to seize the shutdown to lay off federal employees.

 

As I know, most polls indicate that the GOP is responsible for the shutdown. The Dems want to alleviate the increase costs of Affordable Care hardship for the people while the GOP doesn’t want even to discuss. The longer the shutdown, the more people will blame the GOP. Just hope no plane accidents this time. Enough blame to the GOP. 

Was the break just for the weekend and now they're back?

 

Perhaps Schumer should have not shut the government down. 

 

 

But again, anyone, right or left, not working during the Schumer-Shutdown should not get paid for the days they don't work.