Just now, Liverpool Lou said:

Watch your own link!  0:33, he does not say that he has changed his mind.

 

So why does he repeatedly say he'll talk to the DoJ about her pardon?

 

It's okay to be wrong......it's not the end of the world.

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

Give it up......he repeatedly says he'll talk to the DoJ about it.

Give it up, he has not said that he is considering a pardon any more than he is not doing so.   Perhaps he'd suggest to the DoJ to not be so ridiculous?

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

So why does he repeatedly say he'll talk to the DoJ about her pardon?

 

It's okay to be wrong......it's not the end of the world.

It’s just a way to answer the question ambiguously. 

Just now, mogandave said:

So she finally got her case to the supreme court five years after conviction. 

 

It does not take long for a case to be heard once it’s accepted. 

 

You know perfectly well she did not take her case to the SCOTUS......the case was her conviction.

 

Even though Suetape 'mispoke' the meaning was obvious.

 

Just suck it up......she lodge her appeal.....you don't lodge a case.

 

 

 

Ghislaine Maxwell first lodged her appeal based on Jeffrey Epstein’s 2007 non-prosecution agreement in early 2025, culminating in a petition to the U.S. Supreme Court that was rejected on October 6, 2025.

1 minute ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Give it up, he has not said that he is considering a pardon any more than he is not doing so.   Perhaps he'd suggest to the DoJ to not be so ridiculous?

Look, when Trump says anything ambiguous, it means whatever the left says it means.

 

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

So she finally got her case to the supreme court five years after conviction. 

 

It does not take long for a case to be heard once it’s accepted. 

You don't take a case to the SCOTUS....you lodge an appeal, which she did Jan 2025.

Just now, Will B Good said:

 

You know perfectly well she did not take her case to the SCOTUS......the case was her conviction.

 

Even though Suetape 'mispoke' the meaning was obvious.

 

Just suck it up......she lodge her appeal.....you don't lodge a case.

 

 

 

Ghislaine Maxwell first lodged her appeal based on Jeffrey Epstein’s 2007 non-prosecution agreement in early 2025, culminating in a petition to the U.S. Supreme Court that was rejected on October 6, 2025.

Get grip Homer. How many appeals did she file before that in the LAST five years?

 

In any event, why would is it a surprise it was rejected quickly? Most cases are rejected quickly. 

4 minutes ago, mogandave said:

7 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Give it up, he has not said that he is considering a pardon any more than he is not doing so.   Perhaps he'd suggest to the DoJ to not be so ridiculous?

Look, when Trump says anything ambiguous, it means whatever the left says it means.

Even when he says something unambiguous!

5 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

You don't take a case to the SCOTUS....you lodge an appeal, which she did Jan 2025.

 

No that's false. You don't lodge an appeal with the SCOTUS.

 

You prepare a  writ of certiorari. The losing party in the appellate court can file a writ of certiorari" with the Supreme Court, asking the Court to hear the case. It's not an appeal really.

2 minutes ago, mogandave said:

Get grip Homer. How many appeals did she file before that in the LAST five years?

 

In any event, why would is it a surprise it was rejected quickly? Most cases are rejected quickly. 

 

One....Jan 2025... 

44 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

 

Because there is no end of Dems, Dem donors, personal friends all in there somewhere??????

And they could have leaked Trump without leaking them.

 

That it’s mostly full of leftists is why they are saving it for the midterms.

4 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Even when he says something unambiguous!

 

Now you do surprise me.....that was a silly comment to make.

1 minute ago, mogandave said:

And they could have leaked Trump without leaking them.

 

That it’s mostly full of leftists is why they are saving it for the midterms.

 

Yes....brilliant idea.....let me think now......a 1000 FBI agents for two weeks.....yes all the bad stuff could have been redacted.

 

OMG...why didn't they think of that?

The vile Maxwell, trafficker of children for sex with paedophiles should be doing hard time but spineless Donny already has her on his pardon radar.

 I bet my mate Malcolm 100 baht that an AN poster whose moniker also means condom would post sympathetic words for this evil woman.

Ker Ching!

Just now, Red Forever said:

The vile Maxwell, trafficker of children for sex with paedophiles should be doing hard time but spineless Donny already has her on his pardon radar.

 I bet my mate Malcolm 100 baht that an AN poster whose moniker also means condom would post sympathetic words for this evil woman.

Ker Ching!

 

She has not trafficked "children" for sex.

 

Plain nonsense.

1 minute ago, Will B Good said:

 

Yes....brilliant idea.....let me think now......a 1000 FBI agents for two weeks.....yes all the bad stuff could have been redacted.

 

OMG...why didn't they think of that?

Why would anything have to be redacted? 

 

You seem to know as much about leaking to the press as you do about the appeal process and shadow docket works. 

6 hours ago, JonnyF said:

 

Yes low hanging fruit. An elderly foreign woman with no political clout in the US. The perfect target. Certainly easier than going after the high level American politicians and uber wealthy Tech Bros who were using the services. 

 

Laying into Maxwell in order to distract from the billionaire elites actually using these hookers (some of which were indeed underage) is pretty shameful.

 

Of course Maxwell should be punished but giving her a 20 year sentence doesn't mean they can pat themselves on the back and pretend they "got the bad guy". Anyone pushing that line is either stupid or protecting the real villains of the piece.  

 

 

Oh Cond…oops sorry, Jonny. Have you ever heard the wise saying “ if you find yourself in a hole. Stop digging “?

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

Or the way the Biden  DOJ tried to completely destroy Trump, and Trump’s family’s lives.

 

They also tried to destroy everyone that tried to help Trump, and were successful a number of times.

 

 

Yeah from birth I guess DJT has had it rough ha ha!  once he used heel spurs to avoid the draft, he was to me a loser and he has done absolutely nothing since then to get me to change my opinion of that person.  I took that oath to the constitution several times during my life and never regretted it but he has taken it at least twice and still tries to change what the laws say ! IMHO he is a loser though I admit a rich one but I sure do not envy him in any way.

3 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

I would point out that in 12 countries in Europe, including Austria, Germany, Italy and Portugal,  the age of consent is 14. Similarly in many other countries around the world, or lower still. The age of consent of 18 in the USA is a hangover from the days of the Puritans. The Americans I grew up with all regarded it as a joke. 

So you're justifying Epstein's actions, and Trump being Epstein's best friend for nearly two decades, you're justifying his actions too? Sexual assault and rape are fine regardless of age? 

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

I think people that have sex with pubescent children were historically called child molesters, but I think everyone is called a pedophile now.  Sadly, the word has been diluted, in the same way racist and fascist have been diluted. 

no matter what tag may be attached to those criminals, the individuals are true losers and should all be jailed for a long time IMHO anyway!

Now she would have some juicy names of previously powerful people in politics or current business tycoons to mention out...but as she does not want to end up like the other pig Jeffrey Epstein..she's keeping a low profile. 

17 minutes ago, Will B Good said:

22 minutes ago, Liverpool Lou said:

Even when he says something unambiguous!

 

Now you do surprise me.....that was a silly comment to make.

In the context of this thread, what has he said that is ambiguous?  Not making a decision as to whether to consider a pardon (that hasn't been requested apparently) or not is not ambiguity.

13 minutes ago, Cameroni said:

 

She has not trafficked "children" for sex.

 

Plain nonsense.

Oh yes she has. Stop lying.

She’s doing 20 years in the slammer (well, actually the Texas not so tough suite) for procuring kids for the pleasure of the corrupt, rich, degenerate paedophiles.

 

5 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

So you're justifying Epstein's actions, and Trump being Epstein's best friend for nearly two decades, you're justifying his actions too? Sexual assault and rape are fine regardless of age? 

Rape is a serious crime. No sure what your point is.

6 hours ago, LosLobo said:

What would there be to keep her quiet?
Trump’s built more walls of silence than his border.
From Ivana's alleged rape to Stormy Daniels, staffers, and Apprentice contestants,
always a checkbook and an NDA within reach.

Trump — convicted 34 times in a Hush Money trial — says it all.

 

To be fair to Twitler, it was 34 counts of business fraud.  🙂

2 hours ago, mogandave said:

I say they get released in early September for the midterms. 

 

I am sure they went through them with a fine tooth comb, and found nothing of any significance on Trump. No way they had it, and did not use it.

In summary, you have nothing! 🙂

2 hours ago, Presnock said:

Yeah from birth I guess DJT has had it rough ha ha!  once he used heel spurs to avoid the draft, he was to me a loser and he has done absolutely nothing since then to get me to change my opinion of that person.  I took that oath to the constitution several times during my life and never regretted it but he has taken it at least twice and still tries to change what the laws say ! IMHO he is a loser though I admit a rich one but I sure do not envy him in any way.

Were you concerned about Bill Clinton dodging the draft?

 

How about Biden’s asthma? 

3 hours ago, Liverpool Lou said:

In the context of this thread, what has he said that is ambiguous?  Not making a decision as to whether to consider a pardon (that hasn't been requested apparently) or not is not ambiguity.

 

 

We really need a yawn emoji short cut...............🥱

3 hours ago, Red Forever said:

Oh yes she has. Stop lying.

She’s doing 20 years in the slammer (well, actually the Texas not so tough suite) for procuring kids for the pleasure of the corrupt, rich, degenerate paedophiles.

 

 

Nonsense. Ghislaine Maxwell never introduced "children" to Epstein. Only teenage girls, whose age satisfies the age of consent in most countries around the world, and also in Florida at the time.

7 hours ago, Thingamabob said:

I would point out that in 12 countries in Europe, including Austria, Germany, Italy and Portugal,  the age of consent is 14. Similarly in many other countries around the world, or lower still. The age of consent of 18 in the USA is a hangover from the days of the Puritans. The Americans I grew up with all regarded it as a joke. 

 

 

But that is only half the story.

 

In those European countries you mention, there are what's known as 'Romeo and Juliette' clauses. Basically, although the age of consent is 14, the older party must not be over 18 (or in some cases, 21).

 

Those partying on Epstein Island would still have been guilty of having sex with a minor under Austrian, German, etc law.