11 hours ago, TedG said:

What about the 77 million who voted for Trump?  Can they be ignored?

They won't be. They'll lose their healthcare, they'll lose their farms, they'll lose their jobs, they'll pay much more for their eggs, their groceries, their cars, their houses, their holidays.

I promise you: no one will be left unscathed, no one will be ignored!

22 hours ago, Wingate said:

Perhaps you are unaware that the year is 2025. There are today ample resources and ways to assess crowd size in all of the 2500+ protests across all 50 States, and then perform the metaphysical miracle, beyond the scope or skill of MAGAs, and add them up.

 

In DC alone the size of the protest likely exceeded the combined total of Trump's 2 Inauguration Day crowds.

 

What's particularly amusing is seeing the Saturday DC crowd and contrasting it with Trump's silly birthday parade. Trump's lucky there are some homeless people in DC, because that made his birthday parade seem better attended that it actually was.

Not only was the turnout to Trump's birthday parade absolutely pathetic, but the close-ups of the attendees showed a tremendous amount of boredom and disappointment. I think for a moment Trump thought he was Kim or Putin and was able to stage a parade of that magnitude. 

 

It didn't happen Don, you played yourself and humiliated yourself once again. 

23 hours ago, Slowhand225 said:

7 million ? So they counted all the protestors in Europe too ? 

I think they fluffing the numbers. 

22 hours ago, Wingate said:

The people are exercising their 1st Amendment right of peaceful assembly, and the "King" Trump sprays diarrhea all over them. It couldn't be more obvious.

What do you think about the Biden admin telling Social media companies to censor people? 

22 hours ago, Wingate said:

Perhaps you are unaware that the year is 2025. There are today ample resources and ways to assess crowd size in all of the 2500+ protests across all 50 States, and then perform the metaphysical miracle, beyond the scope or skill of MAGAs, and add them up.

Link?

On 10/21/2025 at 11:12 AM, Wrwest said:

7 million +- cannot be ignored. I suspect the discussions will definitely be taking place as how to deal with the reality. Growing numbers of American demonstrations. 

It was nowhere near 7 million, some sources quote one-tenth of that.  

5 hours ago, cooked said:

It was nowhere near 7 million, some sources quote one-tenth of that.  

Link please? LOL Won't hold my breath!

On 10/23/2025 at 6:05 AM, cooked said:

It was nowhere near 7 million, some sources quote one-tenth of that.  

Right, got it ...  all the photos documenting the events were false, all the various international news organizations covering the demonstrations were, like the participants, paid to lie in their documenting the events or for participating.

On 10/23/2025 at 6:05 AM, cooked said:

It was nowhere near 7 million, some sources quote one-tenth of that.  

Quote those sources then.

On 10/24/2025 at 1:53 PM, billd766 said:

Quote those sources then.

Do it yourself, like I did. I don't just listen to left-wing news sources.

57 minutes ago, cooked said:

Do it yourself, like I did. I don't just listen to left-wing news sources.

You claimed it. YOU back it up.

 

If you cant back it up with verifiable links it is simply your opinion. Normal posters post the links first time around.

On 10/21/2025 at 2:05 AM, Tug said:

.keep in mind trump is far and away the biggest liar ever to hold office

Are you sure about that? Bigger liar than Biden?

 

 

44 minutes ago, Acme said:

Are you sure about that? Bigger liar than Biden?

 

 

Just this? Biden has lots to catch up to Trump tens of thousands lies then.

5 minutes ago, Eric Loh said:

Just this? Biden has lots to catch up to Trump tens of thousands lies then.

Biden needs a lot more brain cells too, ones that work. Biden not only lied, but being so mentally challenged he must have believed his lies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Acme said:

Are you sure about that? Bigger liar than Biden?

 

 

In his first 4 years Trump was caught out in at least 30,000 lies, false or misleading claims.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump

 

During and between his terms as President of the United States, Donald Trump has made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his first presidential term, an average of 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of six per day.[2] Commentators and fact-checkers have described Trump's lying as unprecedented in American politics

 

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Fact-checkers from The Washington Post[1] (top, monthly), the Toronto Star[2] and CNN[3][4] (bottom, weekly) compiled data on "false or misleading claims" and "false claims", respectively. The peaks corresponded in late 2018 to the midterm elections, in late 2019 to his impeachment inquiry, and in late 2020 to the presidential election. The Post reported 30,573 false or misleading claims in four years,[1] an average of more than 20.9 per day.
    
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During and between his terms as President of the United States, Donald Trump has made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his first presidential term, an average of 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of six per day.[2] Commentators and fact-checkers have described Trump's lying as unprecedented in American politics,[13] and the consistency of falsehoods as a distinctive part of his business and political identities.[14] Scholarly analysis of Trump's tweets found significant evidence of an intent to deceive.[15]

Many news organizations initially resisted describing Trump's falsehoods as lies, but began to do so by June 2019.[16] The Washington Post said his frequent repetition of claims he knew to be false amounted to a campaign based on disinformation.[17]

 

Steve Bannon, Trump's 2016 presidential campaign CEO and chief strategist during the first seven months of Trump's first presidency, said that the press, rather than Democrats, was Trump's primary adversary and "the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with <deleted>."[18][19] In February 2025, a public relations CEO stated that the "flood the zone" tactic (also known as the firehose of falsehood) was designed to make sure no single action or event stands out above the rest by having them occur at a rapid pace, thus preventing the public from keeping up and preventing controversy or outrage over a specific action or event.[20]

As part of their attempts to overturn the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump and his allies repeatedly falsely claimed there had been massive election fraud and that Trump had won the election.

 

There is far more information in this link, and there are many other links if anyone cares to do even a simple search

 

This is the main reason that he hates fact checking.

 

 

24 minutes ago, billd766 said:

In his first 4 years Trump was caught out in at least 30,000 lies, false or misleading claims.

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_or_misleading_statements_by_Donald_Trump

 

During and between his terms as President of the United States, Donald Trump has made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his first presidential term, an average of 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of six per day.[2] Commentators and fact-checkers have described Trump's lying as unprecedented in American politics

 

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Fact-checkers from The Washington Post[1] (top, monthly), the Toronto Star[2] and CNN[3][4] (bottom, weekly) compiled data on "false or misleading claims" and "false claims", respectively. The peaks corresponded in late 2018 to the midterm elections, in late 2019 to his impeachment inquiry, and in late 2020 to the presidential election. The Post reported 30,573 false or misleading claims in four years,[1] an average of more than 20.9 per day.
    
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During and between his terms as President of the United States, Donald Trump has made tens of thousands of false or misleading claims. Fact-checkers at The Washington Post documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his first presidential term, an average of 21 per day.[1][5][6][7] The Toronto Star tallied 5,276 false claims from January 2017 to June 2019, an average of six per day.[2] Commentators and fact-checkers have described Trump's lying as unprecedented in American politics,[13] and the consistency of falsehoods as a distinctive part of his business and political identities.[14] Scholarly analysis of Trump's tweets found significant evidence of an intent to deceive.[15]

Many news organizations initially resisted describing Trump's falsehoods as lies, but began to do so by June 2019.[16] The Washington Post said his frequent repetition of claims he knew to be false amounted to a campaign based on disinformation.[17]

 

Steve Bannon, Trump's 2016 presidential campaign CEO and chief strategist during the first seven months of Trump's first presidency, said that the press, rather than Democrats, was Trump's primary adversary and "the way to deal with them is to flood the zone with <deleted>."[18][19] In February 2025, a public relations CEO stated that the "flood the zone" tactic (also known as the firehose of falsehood) was designed to make sure no single action or event stands out above the rest by having them occur at a rapid pace, thus preventing the public from keeping up and preventing controversy or outrage over a specific action or event.[20]

As part of their attempts to overturn the 2020 U.S. presidential election, Trump and his allies repeatedly falsely claimed there had been massive election fraud and that Trump had won the election.

 

There is far more information in this link, and there are many other links if anyone cares to do even a simple search

 

This is the main reason that he hates fact checking.

 

 

Maybe Biden is senile and the worst liar ever to hold office, his legacy will reflect on his lies, his corruption and his failures, not just his overt lies and even the plagiarism scandal that forced him to drop out of his campaign and then when his senility could not be covered up after his embarrassing showing at the June 2024 CNN debate he was tossed out like the trash by his own party. Trump's legacy is ramping up to be that of the greatest presidency in modern history, without question. Arguing over who lied more misses the mark, Biden despite his overt lies and deceit is a failed entity who quickly became a useless idiot, while Trump survived a total assault to destroy him and his family by any and all means possible only to emerge as more dominant and successful than anyone could have imagined. Nov 5th 2024 is a turning point in America. Trump exaggerates,  Biden lies deceptively for gain, and his evil existence. Big difference.

 

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/is-biden-senile-or-a-pathological-liar/

 

 

 

 

1 hour ago, Acme said:

Biden needs a lot more brain cells too, ones that work. Biden not only lied, but being so mentally challenged he must have believed his lies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Which lies about Covid were the most dangerous? Biden's or Trump's lies?

 

All The Times Trump Compared Covid-19 To The Flu, Even After He Knew Covid-19 Was Far More Deadly

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2020/09/10/all-the-times-trump-compared-covid-19-to-the-flu-even-after-he-knew-covid-19-was-far-more-deadly/

 

5 minutes ago, Acme said:

Maybe Biden is senile and the worst liar ever to hold office, his legacy will reflect on his lies, his corruption and his failures, not just his overt lies and even the plagiarism scandal that forced him to drop out of his campaign and then when his senility could not be covered up after his embarrassing showing at the June 2024 CNN debate he was tossed out like the trash by his own party. Trump's legacy is ramping up to be that of the greatest presidency in modern history, without question. Arguing over who lied more misses the mark, Biden despite his overt lies and deceit is a failed entity who quickly became a useless idiot, while Trump survived a total assault to destroy him and his family by any and all means possible only to emerge as more dominant and successful than anyone could have imagined. Nov 5th 2024 is a turning point in America. Trump exaggerates,  Biden lies deceptively for gain, and his evil existence. Big difference.

 

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/is-biden-senile-or-a-pathological-liar/

 

 

 

 

Trump Claims He ‘Won’ in 2020, a Day After Jack Smith Election Fraud Filing 🤣

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-claims-he-won-2020-election-jack-smith-filing-jd-vance-1963765

18 minutes ago, Acme said:

Maybe Biden is senile and the worst liar ever to hold office, his legacy will reflect on his lies, his corruption and his failures, not just his overt lies and even the plagiarism scandal that forced him to drop out of his campaign and then when his senility could not be covered up after his embarrassing showing at the June 2024 CNN debate he was tossed out like the trash by his own party. Trump's legacy is ramping up to be that of the greatest presidency in modern history, without question. Arguing over who lied more misses the mark, Biden despite his overt lies and deceit is a failed entity who quickly became a useless idiot, while Trump survived a total assault to destroy him and his family by any and all means possible only to emerge as more dominant and successful than anyone could have imagined. Nov 5th 2024 is a turning point in America. Trump exaggerates,  Biden lies deceptively for gain, and his evil existence. Big difference.

 

 

https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/is-biden-senile-or-a-pathological-liar/

 

 

 

 

 

“You know, we’ve cut drug prices by 1200, 1300, 1400, 1500 percent,” Trump said. “I don’t mean 50 percent, I mean 14, 1500 percent.” 😅

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-says-lowered-drug-prices-051020925.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/24/us/politics/president-trump-2028-steve-bannon.html

 

Bannon Claims ‘There Is a Plan’ for Trump to Run for a Third Term

The claim comes after months of President Trump toying with the idea, insisting that he is “not joking” about defying a constitutionally-mandated term limit.

4 hours ago, candide said:

 

“You know, we’ve cut drug prices by 1200, 1300, 1400, 1500 percent,” Trump said. “I don’t mean 50 percent, I mean 14, 1500 percent.” 😅

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-says-lowered-drug-prices-051020925.html

LOL, u seem very triggered, confused and full of it, like a true to form deluded democrat. Are you a simpleton? Do you have anything intelligent to offer? Maybe go ask for some help.

 

Here is your hi IQ moron telling it like it is from the perspective of a mentally retarded adult, which biden was and the reason for the autopen governing America. Legacy for a dingbat! Google it, Biden is a corrupt imbecile that was hidden due to his brain rot. Convince me otherwise!

 

 

On 10/24/2025 at 1:53 PM, billd766 said:

Quote those sources then.

https://ash.harvard.edu/programs/crowd-counting-consortium/