England is experiencing a significant Covid wave, after 10 months of relative quiet

 

Oct 10, 2025

 

"Well it was nice while it lasted. We had an unprecedented 10 months of low and stable Covid levels in England - but this is now over. We are seeing a definite, significant wave of Covid infections across England. The [below] chart of Covid hospitalisations in England since September 2023 shows this clearly. The last time we had more recorded Covid hospitalisations was two years ago, and this wave isn’t over yet.

 

I’m sure most people now know someone in bed with Covid. If someone says they are in bed with flu, it’s almost certainly Covid, given that the number of people admitted to hospital for Covid last week was 50 times higher than the number admitted for flu! Flu is seasonal - last year we had a massive flu spike, concentrated within a few weeks around New Year, and this year’s season has barely started. [emphasis added]

 

Covid simply is not seasonal yet (although winter behaviours such as mixing indoors help it spread). Even the low and stable Covid hospitalisation levels we saw between November 2024 and last month are substantially higher than the effectively zero flu and RSV hospital admissions, as is clear from the chart of hospitalisations for all three diseases below.

 

 

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Many countries in Europe are however seeing Covid waves reflected in their wastewater measurements as shown in this chart by Bob Hawkins.

 

 

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Making Sense of blog

https://christinapagel.substack.com/p/england-is-now-experiencing-a-significant

 

by Christina Pagel 

Prof of Operational Research in Health Care, UCL [University College London], UK. ... Member of Independent SAGE since May 2020. Full academic bio: https://profiles.ucl.ac.uk/4185

 

Latest weekly COVID update per the U.K. HSA (Health Security Agency):

 

 

https://ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/respiratory-viruses/covid-19

 

 

The rate of reported weekly COVID deaths has more than doubled just since late August, per the UKHSA:

 

 

 

 

https://ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/respiratory-viruses/covid-19

 

How do the white-coats know it's covid; or a variant of the original? 

 

The PCR test by any chance? Come back Kary; all is forgiven.

 

https://odysee.com/@MickeHagenbo:9/-1555204652754714035:f

Daily hospital admissions for COVID are running double what they were at the start of 2025:

 

 

Daily COVID patients admitted to hospital in September 2025:

 

vs. daily COVID patients admitted to hospital in January 2025:

 

https://ukhsa-dashboard.data.gov.uk/respiratory-viruses/covid-19

 

 

 

Hospital bed occupancy for COVID in England roughly doubled from early April to late September:

 

England daily hospital bed occupancy with confirmed COVID cases:

(per the NHS)

 

early April 2025: 1,083+

 

vs.

 

late September 2025: peak 2,052

 

https://www.england.nhs.uk/statistics/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/10/Covid-Publication-09-10-2025.xlsx

 

@TallGuyJohninBKK > Why are opening this thread on the Off-the-Beaten-Track forum, instead of on 'your' COVID-19 Coronavirus sub-forum under Health & Medicine on the regular AN Forum? 

8 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

@TallGuyJohninBKK > Why are opening this thread on the Off-the-Beaten-Track forum, instead of on 'your' COVID-19 Coronavirus sub-forum under Health & Medicine on the regular AN Forum? 

 

Are you suggesting this forum should be reserved only for debunked lunatic anti-vax nonsense quoting sources labeled as "pseudoscience" and "conspiracy theory"?

 

I don't see that restriction anywhere.

 

Covid & Other Vaccine Studies

Discussions and theories related to Covid-19 and use of Vaccines. studies and research based discussions.

 

 

A news report on England's fall COVID surge from  the beginning of October:

NHS issues urgent warning as new Covid variant fuels 60% rise in hospital admissions [since August]

Eligible Brits are being urged for come forward for jabs to keep them out of hospital this winter

 

Oct 1, 2025

 

"A new Covid variant known as XFG is thought to have fuelled a 60% rise in hospitalisations for patients with the virus, according to the NHS. Health chiefs stressed there was no evidence that the strain leads to more serious disease.

 

However, experts have said mutations in the virus's spike protein may have given it a slight advantage when evading immunity generated by previous infection or vaccination. ...

 

The NHS is urging everyone eligible for a free Covid or flu vaccine to come forward as the programme expands to all groups from Wednesday.... Free Covid vaccinations are available for all adults aged 75 and over, older adult care home residents, and people who are immunosuppressed.

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Health Minister Karin Smyth said: "Vaccines save lives and with flu and Covid-19 cases already rising, I urge all those eligible to come forward and prevent sickness before it happens."

 

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Express UK

https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/2115272/covid-nhs-vaccine-jab-flu-winter

 

What is the vaccination status of the hospitalised people?

18 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

What is the vaccination status of the hospitalised people?

Shame on you Rattles for asking such 'inconvenient' question.  

14 minutes ago, Red Phoenix said:

Shame on you Rattles for asking such 'inconvenient' question.  

 

No self-respecting Brit would refer to Autumn as "fall".

1 hour ago, hotandsticky said:

No self-respecting Brit would refer to Autumn as "fall".

 

Perhaps that's because the person who posted the OP news here isn't a Brit!

 

10 hours ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

The rate of reported weekly COVID deaths has more than doubled just since late August, per the UKHSA:

They're not necessarily COVID deaths. They are deaths with COVID mentioned on the death certificate.

5 minutes ago, BeastOfBodmin said:

They're not necessarily COVID deaths. They are deaths with COVID mentioned on the death certificate.

 

They ALL are COVID deaths as determined by the attending doctors, who listed COVID as a cause on the death certificate... Either COVID as the main cause, or as COVID as a contributing cause along with other factors.

 

 

1 minute ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

They ALL are COVID deaths as determined by the attending doctors, who listed COVID as a cause on the death certificate... Either COVID as the main cause, or as COVID as a contributing cause along with other factors.

Where does it state that?

How death certificates really work

"The idea, popular in some online groups, that a large proportion of virus deaths are people who died "with" but not necessarily "of" Covid - coincidentally testing positive when dying of another cause - is based on a misinterpretation of how deaths are recorded.

 

When doctors fill in death certificates, they record the chain of events that led directly to a patient's death based on physical examinations, tests, symptoms and medical records.

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If someone was in hospital dying of another cause and happened to test positive for Covid, it would not be recorded in the same way. [emphasis added]

 

There is another section of the death certificate form where doctors can add pre-existing conditions which may have contributed, like asthma.

 

BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/60145237

 

 

4 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

How death certificates really work

"The idea, popular in some online groups, that a large proportion of virus deaths are people who died "with" but not necessarily "of" Covid - coincidentally testing positive when dying of another cause - is based on a misinterpretation of how deaths are recorded.

 

When doctors fill in death certificates, they record the chain of events that led directly to a patient's death based on physical examinations, tests, symptoms and medical records.

...

If someone was in hospital dying of another cause and happened to test positive for Covid, it would not be recorded in the same way. [emphasis added]

 

There is another section of the death certificate form where doctors can add pre-existing conditions which may have contributed, like asthma.

 

BBC

https://www.bbc.com/news/60145237

So "died with X" is medical-speak for "was killed by X" or, more plainly, "died of X"?

"We explained previously how COVID-19 deaths are recorded in the United Kingdom. There are two main reports: 

• Deaths within 28 days of a reported COVID-19 infection (deaths with COVID) 
• Death where COVID-19 is mentioned on the death registration (deaths from COVID)"

 

[The UKHSA chart info cited above, as it indicates, is from the second line data in this post, deaths where COVID is mentioned on the death registration -- deaths FROM COVID.]

 

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2023/01/27/changes-to-the-way-we-report-on-covid-19-deaths/

 

 

 

Just now, BeastOfBodmin said:

So "died with X" is medical-speak for "was killed by X" pr, more plainly, "died of X"?

 

As I explained above:

 

They ALL are COVID deaths as determined by the attending doctors, who listed COVID as a cause on the death certificate... Either COVID as the main cause, or as COVID as a contributing cause along with other factors. Both get counted in the COVID on the death certificate counts.

 

2 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

As I explained above:

 

They ALL are COVID deaths as determined by the attending doctors, who listed COVID as a cause on the death certificate... Either COVID as the main cause, or as COVID as a contributing cause along with other factors. Both get counted in the COVID on the death certificate counts.

Which is what I meant by the below. Thanks for the clarification.

 

18 minutes ago, BeastOfBodmin said:

They're not necessarily COVID deaths. They are deaths with COVID mentioned on the death certificate.

The report data posted above is ALL official COVID deaths. COVID was listed on the death certificates, meaning it was either the main cause or a contributing cause, as the several prior posts above clearly explain.

 

Any other answer is simply denying the clearly detailed facts as explained above from posts by the reporting government agency (UKHSA) and the BBC.

 

 

 

I had an aunt once who thought she had every aliment possible inflicted on her body. She was always running to the doctor with her problems which really did not exist. She went to her grave at the ripe old age of 94. So the moral of this story is live your life to the fullest and stop worrying. 

 

Mod's note: off-topic trolling comment removed.

 

9 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

 

 

Old data counting method above that was phased out and replaced with the COVID death certificates method (deaths from COVID), with all the deaths counted accordingly:

 

Changes to the way we report on COVID-19 deaths

27 January 2023

 

...

"COVID-19 death registrations should continue to be used as the primary figure for measuring COVID-19 deaths. The number of deaths within 28 days of a positive COVID-19 test is no longer recommended.

 

From the 6 July, we will therefore no longer update the 28 day measure. All previously published data will remain available for download from the GOV.UK COVID-19 Dashboard API.

 

We are changing the way we present COVID-19 death statistics on the GOV.UK COVID-19 Dashboard. “Deaths with COVID-19 on the death registration” will replace “deaths within 28 days of a positive test” as the primary reported COVID-19 death statistic. 

 

We explained previously how COVID-19 deaths are recorded in the United Kingdom. There are two main reports: 

• Deaths within 28 days of a reported COVID-19 infection (deaths with COVID) 
• Death where COVID-19 is mentioned on the death registration (deaths from COVID) 
   

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2023/01/27/changes-to-the-way-we-report-on-covid-19-deaths/

 

 

11 minutes ago, TallGuyJohninBKK said:

 

 

Old data counting method above that was phased out and replaced with the COVID death certificates method (deaths from COVID), with all the deaths counted accordingly:

 

Changes to the way we report on COVID-19 deaths

27 January 2023

 

...

"COVID-19 death registrations should continue to be used as the primary figure for measuring COVID-19 deaths. The number of deaths within 28 days of a positive COVID-19 test is no longer recommended.

 

From the 6 July, we will therefore no longer update the 28 day measure. All previously published data will remain available for download from the GOV.UK COVID-19 Dashboard API.

 

We are changing the way we present COVID-19 death statistics on the GOV.UK COVID-19 Dashboard. “Deaths with COVID-19 on the death registration” will replace “deaths within 28 days of a positive test” as the primary reported COVID-19 death statistic. 

 

We explained previously how COVID-19 deaths are recorded in the United Kingdom. There are two main reports: 

• Deaths within 28 days of a reported COVID-19 infection (deaths with COVID) 
• Death where COVID-19 is mentioned on the death registration (deaths from COVID) 
   

https://ukhsa.blog.gov.uk/2023/01/27/changes-to-the-way-we-report-on-covid-19-deaths/

 

 

 

July 2023 was after the crisis ended.

23 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

 

What? Does the uneducated and non Thai resident wall painter  who claims there is no such thing as Covid and that no one has ever died of Covid know that you have dared to mention even 47 deaths of Covid? Oh the  horror of the inconsistencies of the nonsensical claims.

9 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

What is the vaccination status of the hospitalised people?

Nobody ever seems to want to answer this question.   Surely the data must be out there?  Somewhere?  Or is data like that now considered insignificant.   The jab-fanatics sure did love to point out the vaccine status of all the healthy children who died from Covid.

 

 

3 minutes ago, Airalee said:

9 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

What is the vaccination status of the hospitalised people?

Nobody ever seems to want to answer this question.

 

Our resident fact-checker @TallGuyJohninBKK will no doubt enlighten us very soon.