8 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    It was satire .

The joke is on the Palestinian supporters who took it seriously and believed it 🙂

Keep deflecting 

14 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

Anyone who believes or takes at face value, ANY video/audio clips offered as 'proof' of anything these days is a fool.
A 12yr old with a computer can make a video of pigs flying.

Imagine what a skilled and creative IT person could ask us to believe.

 

2 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

So you are saying October 7 never happened?

 

Or what are you saying?

I've read and re-read my post several times, and I just can't seem to find any mention of October 7th. See for yourself. I've included my post above.

I believe my writing is clear enough for a middle school student to understand. 

Have another go at it.

1 hour ago, Somjot said:

He is so .... entertaining.

 

His ability to deny the obvious truth, even when it is banging on his forehead and the way he explains, why the truth is not true, are just hilarious.

 

And it teaches us a lot about most Israelis mindset:

Indeed but what I find strange is that never admits to being Israeli. 

1 hour ago, FolkGuitar said:

 

I've read and re-read my post several times, and I just can't seem to find any mention of October 7th. See for yourself. I've included my post above.

I believe my writing is clear enough for a middle school student to understand. 

Have another go at it.

 

I did very well understand what you wrote and you basically said that video clips are not valuable proof. But are video clips not everything we have from October 7th? Or are just those video clips without value which prove the atrocities of Israel?

10 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

You shouldn`t.

 

He is so .... entertaining.

 

His ability to deny the obvious truth, even when it is banging on his forehead and the way he explains, why the truth is not true, are just hilarious.

 

And it teaches us a lot about most Israelis mindset:

 

Filter anything not supporting your agenda out, just act as if it is not happening even if it is actually happening in front of your eyes and just keep those few positive impressions you might have seen or just imagined to see and what do you get?

 

The most moral army in the world.

 

I was shocked when I realized, they`re not making a sarcastic joke, no, they really mean it.

 

 

I think he has done enormous damage to the pro-Israel cause.  A total own goal.

8 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

I did very well understand what you wrote and you basically said that video clips are not valuable proof. But are video clips not everything we have from October 7th? Or are just those video clips without value which prove the atrocities of Israel?

Very good! Yet again,  you keep telling me about October 7th.
Where in my post did I mention ANYTHING about October 7th.
My post simply said that these days anyone can make a video showing anything, so believing video as 'reliable' proof is foolish.
That is all I said, yet you insist on telling me about October and bitching about Israel. 

A post intended to bait a fellow member, and a post containing overly harsh language were removed. Polite discussion on the politics or actions of the State of Israel (and its opponents) is welcome, but not attacks on individual members simply because their opinions differ, or because they originate from this or that country.

 

@JimCM 

@Nick Carter icp

 

Please moderate your language, so I don't have to do it for you. Thank you.

 

📌 Examples of Disputed or Debunked Claims

• “40 beheaded babies”

  • Widely reported after October 7, 2023, but the IDF later clarified it could not confirm the claim. The story originated from a mistranslation of a French article and spread unchecked.

• Mass rapes by Hamas fighters

  • Israel officials alleged systematic sexual violence during the October 7 attacks. While some evidence exists, human rights groups and journalists noted that Israel provided limited verifiable documentation, leading to accusations of exaggeration.

• Babies in ovens / atrocities in hospitals

  • These claims circulated in Israeli and international media but were never substantiated by independent investigations. They are often cited as examples of wartime propaganda.

• Misattributed videos and images

  • Numerous clips shared by Israeli officials or supporters turned out to be from unrelated conflicts or old footage. For example, videos from Syria or even video games were presented as evidence of Hamas actions.

• Civilian casualty denial

  • Israel has repeatedly downplayed the scale of civilian deaths in Gaza, suggesting Hamas inflates numbers. However, independent organizations (UN, WHO, Amnesty) have verified high civilian tolls, contradicting Israeli statements.

• Claims about foreign involvement

  • False reports circulated that Russia or Iran directly attacked Israel. These were later debunked by Reuters and VOA fact-checks.

3 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

• Claims about foreign involvement

  • False reports circulated that Russia or Iran directly attacked Israel. These were later debunked by Reuters and VOA fact-checks.

 

   Who claimed that Russia directly attacked Israel ?

First time that I have ever heard of that .

Could you state who made that claim?

 

3 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

• Misattributed videos and images

  • Numerous clips shared by Israeli officials or supporters turned out to be from unrelated conflicts or old footage. For example, videos from Syria or even video games were presented as evidence of Hamas actions.

•  

 

    Could you post those  videos from the Israeli officials that were really from unrelated conflicts ?

16 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

What happened? Forgot to pay for your internet and phone contract?

Um, just basic things. Shopping. Cooking. My life doesnt consist of spewing jew hate and support of anti american terrorists on the internet, unlike you with the enemies symbol as your avatar.

 

Thank god the Israelis are doing their part to fight for the freedom of Gazans from Muslim imperialism and oppression. The imperialism and oppression you support

16 hours ago, Somjot said:

 

Strong words from a descendant of the savage, brutal Christianist colonialists who occupied North America and committed genocide of the natives

1. My folks came later

2. The natives are still here

3. The land was unoccupied.

 

Therefore, you are shown to be a liar again

 

23 hours ago, novacova said:

Sick Hamas rapist murders got standing ovation. 
 

Even by some of the sick here.

They love it. The National Socialist murderers used to keep photo albums.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Who claimed that Russia directly attacked Israel ?

First time that I have ever heard of that .

Could you state who made that claim?

 

 

Also from same AI

 

Fact-checks

• Reuters and VOA both investigated and confirmed that no Russian attack on Israel occurred.

• VOA Fact Check (Oct 31, 2023): Found the TikTok video was old Indian Navy footage misrepresented as Russian military action.

• Reuters / Africa Check (Dec 4, 2023): Verified that the aircraft video was miscaptioned and had nothing to do with Russia or Israel.

• PolitiFact (Oct 23, 2023): Debunked another TikTok clip claiming Russia attacked Israel, showing instead a U.S. Air Force pilot.

1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

    Could you post those  videos from the Israeli officials that were really from unrelated conflicts ?

 

AI's source for that claim was Wikipedia

 

Misinformation in the Gaza war - Wikipedia

 

Here's an excerpt

 

During the conflict, the Israeli government and Israeli cyber companies have deployed artificial intelligence (AI) tools and bot farms to spread disinformation and graphic, emotionally charged and false propaganda to dehumanize Palestinians, sow division among supporters of Palestine, and exert pressure on politicians to support Israel's actions.^[6][7][8] The Intercept reported that: "At the center of Israel’s information warfare campaign is a tactical mission to dehumanize Palestinians and to flood the public discourse with a stream of false, unsubstantiated, and unverifiable allegations."^[8] One such covert campaign was commissioned by Israel's Ministry of Diaspora Affairs. The ministry allocated about $2 million to the operation, and used political marketing firm Stoic based in Tel Aviv to carry it out, according officials and documents reviewed by the New York Times.^[6][9] The campaign was started after the October 7 attacks, and remained active on X (formerly Twitter) at the time of the New York Times report in June 2024. At the peak of the campaign it used hundreds of fake accounts posing as Americans on X, Facebook and Instagram to post pro-Israel comments, focusing on U.S. lawmakers, particularly those who are Black and from the Democratic Party, including Hakeem Jeffries, the House minority leader from New York, and Raphael Warnock, Senator from Georgia. ChatGPT was deployed to generate many of the posts. The campaign also involved the creation of three fake English-language news sites featuring pro-Israel articles.^[6] In November 2024, a report by a United Nations (UN) committee noted that Western social media companies disproportionately removed content showing solidarity with the Palestinian people relative to content promoting violence against Palestinians.^[10]

5 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Also from same AI

 

Fact-checks

• Reuters and VOA both investigated and confirmed that no Russian attack on Israel occurred.

• VOA Fact Check (Oct 31, 2023): Found the TikTok video was old Indian Navy footage misrepresented as Russian military action.

• Reuters / Africa Check (Dec 4, 2023): Verified that the aircraft video was miscaptioned and had nothing to do with Russia or Israel.

• PolitiFact (Oct 23, 2023): Debunked another TikTok clip claiming Russia attacked Israel, showing instead a U.S. Air Force pilot.

 

    I am not interested in who denied it .

I was asking you WHO made the claim in the first place .

So,  Who claimed that Russia directly attacked Israel ?

4 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

AI's source for that claim was Wikipedia

 

Misinformation in the Gaza war - Wikipedia

 

 

   Another goose chase :

So, you cannot  post those  videos from the Israeli officials that were really from unrelated conflicts .

   Another claim you made that you cannot back up 

4 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   Another goose chase :

So, you cannot  post those  videos from the Israeli officials that were really from unrelated conflicts .

   Another claim you made that you cannot back up 

 

I sometimes wonder if you are ok. There's something not quite right.  You seem to feel you have to challenge everything and in doing so lose all credibility.

 

Now you are challenging wikipedia and fact checking that took place 2 years ago.

 

Read the wikipedia article quoted by AI that I posted, it's clear you haven't read it or maybe you just can't understand it.

On 11/16/2025 at 7:19 AM, SAFETY FIRST said:

Did you watch the videos of Hamas raping the woman hostages? 

 

Many to view. 

 

Really?

 

I think you're lying. 🙂 

19 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

I sometimes wonder if you are ok. There's something not quite right.  You seem to feel you have to challenge everything and in doing so lose all credibility.

 

Now you are challenging wikipedia and fact checking that took place 2 years ago.

 

Read the wikipedia article quoted by AI that I posted, it's clear you haven't read it or maybe you just can't understand it.

 

   You just keep firing links and A.I  at me .

Just tell me which Israeli officials posted videos which were really from another conflict .

   Just write it yourself .

Back up your claim that  "Numerous clips shared by Israeli officials or supporters turned out to be from unrelated conflicts or old footage"

  

48 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   You just keep firing links and A.I  at me .

Just tell me which Israeli officials posted videos which were really from another conflict .

   Just write it yourself .

Back up your claim that  "Numerous clips shared by Israeli officials or supporters turned out to be from unrelated conflicts or old footage"

  

 

Do your own research if you don't like this...

I have better things to do than argue with a Zionist Troll

 

 

🎥 Documented Examples of Misattributed Clips

• Airstrike footage mislabeled as Rafah (April 2024)

  • A video of an Israeli airstrike in Gaza City’s al‑Tuffah district was falsely presented online as a “massive Israeli airstrike in Rafah.”

  • Shared by verified accounts on X (Twitter), including those positioning themselves as news outlets or open‑source intelligence experts.

  • Fact‑checked by VOA, which confirmed the location was Gaza City, not Rafah.

• Foreign conflict footage reused

  • Clips from Syria’s civil war and other Middle Eastern conflicts were repurposed and circulated as evidence of Hamas actions.

  • Some of these were amplified by pro‑Israel accounts and influencers, according to fact‑checking investigations.

• Video game footage

  • Certain dramatic clips showing combat or explosions were traced back to video games (e.g., Arma 3), not real events.

  • These were shared by supporters online to illustrate alleged Hamas attacks, but debunked by open‑source analysts and fact‑checkers.

• Misattributed naval footage

  • A viral TikTok clip claiming to show “Russia attacking Israel” was actually 2017 footage of an Indian Navy missile test, miscaptioned and spread during the war.

  • Debunked by VOA and Reuters fact‑checks.

2 hours ago, JBChiangRai said:

 

Do your own research if you don't like this...

I have better things to do than argue with a Zionist Troll

 

 

🎥 Documented Examples of Misattributed Clips

• Airstrike footage mislabeled as Rafah (April 2024)

  • A video of an Israeli airstrike in Gaza City’s al‑Tuffah district was falsely presented online as a “massive Israeli airstrike in Rafah.”

  • Shared by verified accounts on X (Twitter), including those positioning themselves as news outlets or open‑source intelligence experts.

  • Fact‑checked by VOA, which confirmed the location was Gaza City, not Rafah.

• Foreign conflict footage reused

  • Clips from Syria’s civil war and other Middle Eastern conflicts were repurposed and circulated as evidence of Hamas actions.

  • Some of these were amplified by pro‑Israel accounts and influencers, according to fact‑checking investigations.

• Video game footage

  • Certain dramatic clips showing combat or explosions were traced back to video games (e.g., Arma 3), not real events.

  • These were shared by supporters online to illustrate alleged Hamas attacks, but debunked by open‑source analysts and fact‑checkers.

• Misattributed naval footage

  • A viral TikTok clip claiming to show “Russia attacking Israel” was actually 2017 footage of an Indian Navy missile test, miscaptioned and spread during the war.

  • Debunked by VOA and Reuters fact‑checks.

 

    None of those above were shared by Israeli officials .

You made a false claim that Israeli officials shared videos that were unrelated to the war .

   It is you who is spreading false information 

Timeline of Key Misinformation Waves

Date / Period	Claim	Source / Amplifiers	Outcome
Oct 7–10, 2023	“40 beheaded babies”	Reported by Israeli media citing soldiers; amplified by officials including PM’s office before clarification	IDF later said it could not confirm. Origin traced to mistranslation of a French article
Oct 2023	“Mass rapes by Hamas fighters”	Israeli officials alleged systematic sexual violence	Some evidence exists, but limited documentation provided; human rights groups noted exaggeration
Oct 2023	“Babies in ovens / atrocities in hospitals”	Circulated in Israeli and international media	No independent verification; considered wartime propaganda
Oct 2023	“Russia attacked Israel”	Viral TikTok clips miscaptioned; amplified by pro‑Israel accounts online	Debunked by Reuters, VOA, PolitiFact — footage was from India or U.S. military
Late 2023–2024	Misattributed videos (Syria war, Arma 3 game footage)	Shared by pro‑Israel supporters and influencers on X (Twitter)	Fact‑checked by VOA, Reuters; confirmed unrelated conflicts or video games
Throughout 2024	Civilian casualty denial	Israeli officials suggested Hamas inflated Gaza death tolls	Independent organizations (UN, WHO, Amnesty) verified high civilian tolls
2024–2025	Hamas “crisis actors” claims	Pro‑Hamas accounts alleged Israel staged casualties	Debunked by PolitiFact and PBS; no evidence of staged victims
2024–2025	Fabricated U.S. involvement (fake memos, doctored images)	Circulated by Hamas supporters and conspiracy accounts	Tracked and debunked by NewsGuard’s misinformation center

 

 

📌 Key Takeaways

• Israeli officials were directly involved in amplifying early atrocity claims (beheaded babies, mass rapes), which later collapsed under scrutiny.

• Supporters and influencers —  spread misattributed clips (Syria footage, Arma 3, mislabeled airstrikes).

47 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said:

Timeline of Key Misinformation Waves

Date / Period	Claim	Source / Amplifiers	Outcome
Oct 7–10, 2023	“40 beheaded babies”	Reported by Israeli media citing soldiers; amplified by officials including PM’s office before clarification	IDF later said it could not confirm. Origin traced to mistranslation of a French article
Oct 2023	“Mass rapes by Hamas fighters”	Israeli officials alleged systematic sexual violence	Some evidence exists, but limited documentation provided; human rights groups noted exaggeration
Oct 2023	“Babies in ovens / atrocities in hospitals”	Circulated in Israeli and international media	No independent verification; considered wartime propaganda
Oct 2023	“Russia attacked Israel”	Viral TikTok clips miscaptioned; amplified by pro‑Israel accounts online	Debunked by Reuters, VOA, PolitiFact — footage was from India or U.S. military
Late 2023–2024	Misattributed videos (Syria war, Arma 3 game footage)	Shared by pro‑Israel supporters and influencers on X (Twitter)	Fact‑checked by VOA, Reuters; confirmed unrelated conflicts or video games
Throughout 2024	Civilian casualty denial	Israeli officials suggested Hamas inflated Gaza death tolls	Independent organizations (UN, WHO, Amnesty) verified high civilian tolls
2024–2025	Hamas “crisis actors” claims	Pro‑Hamas accounts alleged Israel staged casualties	Debunked by PolitiFact and PBS; no evidence of staged victims
2024–2025	Fabricated U.S. involvement (fake memos, doctored images)	Circulated by Hamas supporters and conspiracy accounts	Tracked and debunked by NewsGuard’s misinformation center

 

 

📌 Key Takeaways

• Israeli officials were directly involved in amplifying early atrocity claims (beheaded babies, mass rapes), which later collapsed under scrutiny.

• Supporters and influencers —  spread misattributed clips (Syria footage, Arma 3, mislabeled airstrikes).

 

   I am not going to keep replying to C&Ped  A.I generated Chat GTP posts .

if you want to have a conversation , you will need to write posts yourself .

    Youve posted about 160 lines (in text ) in recent posts and only 10 lines were written by yourself , the other 150 written lines have been written by A.I .

   Feels like I  am talking to a Bot .

If you want a discussion, then you will have to write posts yourself 

 

12 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

Very good! Yet again,  you keep telling me about October 7th.
Where in my post did I mention ANYTHING about October 7th.
My post simply said that these days anyone can make a video showing anything, so believing video as 'reliable' proof is foolish.
That is all I said, yet you insist on telling me about October and bitching about Israel. 

 

The thread is about Israelis raping Palestinian detainees and there was a vid from the OP about rapists getting standing ovation.

 

Someone doubted that so I posted 3 more videos about this topic

 

Your first post was:

 

On 11/16/2025 at 7:52 AM, FolkGuitar said:

Anyone who believes or takes at face value, ANY video/audio clips offered as 'proof' of anything these days is a fool.
A 12yr old with a computer can make a video of pigs flying.

Imagine what a skilled and creative IT person could ask us to believe.

 

When you wrote that video evidence could be manipulated or even made up I logically assumed you were talking about the previously presented video clips but I was not sure as you hadn`t addressed anyone so I asked

 

On 11/16/2025 at 7:55 PM, Somjot said:

 

So you are saying October 7 never happened?

 

Or what are you saying?

 

Following your logic I asked you, if then October 7 never happened, as most evidence we have and are shown again and again are videos.

 

21 hours ago, FolkGuitar said:

I believe my writing is clear enough for a middle school student to understand. 

Have another go at it.

 

I believe the middle school you so proudly mentioned, taught you the difference between telling and bitching on one side and asking a question on the other.

 

What about you finally "having a go" at answering my question.

 

Which videos are you referring to?

 

If you are (most likely) doubting the vids shown in this thread do you also doubt all the videos from October 7.

 

Or simplified: do you have a double standard when it comes to videos about the conflict?

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Um, just basic things. Shopping. Cooking.

 

What did you buy and cook?

 

No, wait, let me take a guess.

 

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

My life doesnt consist of spewing jew hate and support of anti american terrorists on the internet, unlike you with the enemies symbol as your avatar.

 

Buddy, my avatar is a simple "S", the first letter from my forum name, which the forum software did automatically.

 

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Thank god the Israelis are doing their part to fight for the freedom of Gazans from Muslim imperialism and oppression. The imperialism and oppression you support

 

Wait a minute, the Israelis are fighting for the freedom of Gazans??

 

Now I am sure I know what you are cooking:

 

MUSHROOMS!

 

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

1. My folks came later

 

1. you mean after the genocide was over? How brave let others do the conquering for you.

 

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

2. The natives are still here

 

When European settlers arrived in the Americas, historians estimate there were over 10 million Native Americans living there. By 1900, their estimated population was under 300,000. 

 

Sure, they are still there, well 3% of them, when the shooting and land grabbing slowed down.

 

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

3. The land was unoccupied.

 

Are you telling me there were no native people in North America? I heard different.

 

8 hours ago, Yagoda said:

Therefore, you are shown to be a liar again

 

And in YOUR world I am the liar?

 

Oh, I forgot, your mushrooms.

16 hours ago, Somjot said:

Now I am sure I know what you are cooking:

 

MUSHROOMS!

 

Ha, that explains a lot, 😁 detached from reality.

Other Jewish posters accept that Israel are now breaking all laws and have stopped trying to defend the indefensible Israel.

19 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

 

   I am not going to keep replying to C&Ped  A.I generated Chat GTP posts .

if you want to have a conversation , you will need to write posts yourself .

    Youve posted about 160 lines (in text ) in recent posts and only 10 lines were written by yourself , the other 150 written lines have been written by A.I .

   Feels like I  am talking to a Bot .

If you want a discussion, then you will have to write posts yourself 

 

Reply: "Ah, the irony. You complain about long posts, yet somehow manage to count every line like a frustrated accountant. If you spent half as much energy engaging with the content as you do tallying word counts, we might actually have a conversation worth having. But please, don’t let me interrupt your crusade against paragraphs — brevity clearly trumps substance in your world."

 

This style works because:

• Witty jab: Highlights their obsession with counting lines.

• Condescending edge: Suggests they’re missing the point by focusing on form over content.

• Keeps it clever: Avoids outright insults, but still puts them in their place.