Well, a lot of blame for the economic s**t show we're seeing in MAGAstan goes to illegal immigrants and their sick cattle that they catapult (?) over the big, beautiful wall that Mexico paid for!

But fear not, Super-Gov (as always) has the solution!!

 

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-treasury-secretary-scott-221100655.html

 

 

 

 

Hiring Defied Expectations in September, With 119,000 New Jobs

Job growth accelerated in the month heading into the government shutdown

 

U.S. job growth defied expectations in September, according to a Labor Department report issued nearly seven weeks late due to the government shutdown.

Payrolls rose by a seasonally adjusted 119,000 on the month, the strongest gain since April, the Labor Department said Thursday.

That was well above the gain of 50,000 jobs economists polled by The Wall Street Journal expected to see. The September report covers the month before the recent government shutdown began on Oct. 1.

 

https://www.wsj.com/economy/central-banking/delayed-jobs-report-september-2025-795a423c#comments_sector

5 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And then there's your selective amnesia. Obama inherited the worst economic recession since the Great Depression.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP

You notice the massive boost that the economy got after Trump assumed office.? If you do, better get your vision checked.

 

 

Another GDP disciple lol. Even that was steady up until Q1 2020 - wonder why that was?

3 hours ago, BLMFem said:

Well, a lot of blame for the economic s**t show we're seeing in MAGAstan goes to illegal immigrants and their sick cattle that they catapult (?) over the big, beautiful wall that Mexico paid for!

But fear not, Super-Gov (as always) has the solution!!

 

https://ca.news.yahoo.com/fact-check-treasury-secretary-scott-221100655.html

 

 

 

 

 

Strange tale - first time I've heard (or should it be herd?) of it - wonder why?

9 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Prices are higher under Trump 2.

 

I like demos.

5 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

And then there's your selective amnesia. Obama inherited the worst economic recession since the Great Depression.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/GDP

You notice the massive boost that the economy got after Trump assumed office.? If you do, better get your vision checked.

The Great Recession was in 2009 and the graph you posted starts in 2012.   The dip you see at the end of the graph is due to COVID shut down. 

9 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Prices are higher under Trump 2.

If you consider that inflaton is always active.  Prices will always be higher over time. 

4 minutes ago, TedG said:

The Great Recession was in 2009 and the graph you posted starts in 2012.   The dip you see at the end of the graph is due to COVID shut down. 

 

He likes cherries a lot. 

10 hours ago, MalcolmB said:

Trump only really cares about his personal wealth and keeping out of jail.

 

Also....

 

What about hamburgers?

 

 

 

This is the cummlative inflatoin from Trump 1 ---> Biden ---> Trump 2. 

"A new Fox News poll shows that President Donald Trump’s approval rating is the lowest it has been since October 2017, his first year in office.

 

Moreover, the poll revealed that just 38% approve of the way he is handling the economy, his lowest rating in that category in either of his terms. The figure matches the record low on the issue from April."

 

 

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trumps-handling-of-economy-gets-lowest-mark-of-all-time-in-new-fox-news-poll/

4 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

"A new Fox News poll shows that President Donald Trump’s approval rating is the lowest it has been since October 2017, his first year in office.

 

Moreover, the poll revealed that just 38% approve of the way he is handling the economy, his lowest rating in that category in either of his terms. The figure matches the record low on the issue from April."

 

 

 

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/trumps-handling-of-economy-gets-lowest-mark-of-all-time-in-new-fox-news-poll/

This is a fluff pole.   

 

How many people are buying housing on a regular basis?   

 

Gas prices have deceased since least year.  

13 hours ago, sharot724 said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/chart/?id=a1rfec&timeFrame=1D&chartType=line 

 

His media stock has him at all time LOW

 

How's Trump truth social doing ?

19 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

This is a fluff pole.   

 

How many people are buying housing on a regular basis?   

 

Gas prices have deceased since least year.  

 

  How many people are buying housing?  Anyone who rents is buying housing.

 

  And - news flash - no one cares what you think about the poll in question.

 

 

5 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

 

  How many people are buying housing?  Anyone who rents is buying housing.

 

  And - news flash - no one cares what you think about the poll in question.

You cared since you took the time to reply. 

2 minutes ago, Mike_Hunt said:

 

 

You cared since you took the time to reply. 

 

  Nice try.  I don't care that you disagree with the poll or think it's a "fluff pole" (sounds like something you might suffer from, actually.)  Happy now?

6 minutes ago, TheAppletons said:

 

  Nice try.  I don't care that you disagree with the poll or think it's a "fluff pole" (sounds like something you might suffer from, actually.)  Happy now?

It if a fluff pole.  A better pole would have real data.  

16 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

I know this is like asking a shrimp to whistle, but let me pose this question:

 

Under Trump 1.0, he ran up new $8,400,000,000,000 in debt, which exceeded the change in GDP. That new debt was a 41% increase in the debt of the previous 44 Presidents combined. It represented $25,000 for every man, woman and child in the US, or $1000 for every human on the planet at the time.

 

Now pretend you studied economics for a second.....do you think putting $25000 equivalent into the hands of 330 million Americans just might be inflationary? Do you think inflation is a light switch that just appears in an instant, or do factors build up that cause it to happen over time?

 

Take you time and think about it.

1 minute ago, Wingate said:

Under Trump 1.0, he ran up new $8,400,000,000,000 in debt, which exceeded the change in GDP. That new debt was a 41% increase in the debt of the previous 44 Presidents combined. It represented $25,000 for every man, woman and child in the US, or $1000 for every human on the planet at the time.

You do know the lions share of this was COVID spending.  Do you happen to remember the global pandemic?    Also, you know Dems had the House and Senate and per the constitution all spending originates in the House.  And the House leader was Nancy Pelosi.  

4 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Now pretend you studied economics for a second.....do you think putting $25000 equivalent into the hands of 330 million Americans just might be inflationary? Do you think inflation is a light switch that just appears in an instant, or do factors build up that cause it to happen over time?

If studied economics for a second you should know that during the COVID shutdown economic active decreased bug time and the massive spending propped up the economy.  

6 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Do you think inflation is a light switch that just appears in an instant, or do factors build up that cause it to happen over time?

If you want to talk about inflation.  Joe Bidne polices after this massive spending pushed inflation. 

 

Biden screwed up on inflation — badly

He didn’t just get unlucky. He botched the response.

 

https://www.vox.com/policy/385932/biden-inflation-record-worse-unpopular-mistakes

 

 

9 minutes ago, Wingate said:

Now pretend you studied economics for a second.....do you think putting $25000 equivalent into the hands of 330 million Americans just might be inflationary? Do you think inflation is a light switch that just appears in an instant, or do factors build up that cause it to happen over time?

Joe Biden is more responsible for high inflation than for abundant jobs

The main effect of the president’s economic policies has been to boost prices

 

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/05/11/joe-biden-is-more-responsible-for-high-inflation-than-for-abundant-jobs

More Trump failures. The 2025 election two weeks ago crystallized how big a problem the economy and affordability appear to be for President Donald Trump and the Republican Party.

 

More Trump lies. Trump’s initial strategy for dealing with this problem appeared to be pretending it didn’t actually exist. Trump set about falsely claiming prices were actually down, that there is “almost no inflation,” and that everything was more or less hunky dory. It was bizarre, even from a president who often seems to reside in his own elaborately crafted alternate reality.

 

Can't deny reality anymore Don. Even among Republicans, only 2 in 10 subscribed to Trump’s alternate version of reality in which prices are actually dropping. A majority said prices are up.

 

For the deflectors - The Fox News poll asked whether Trump or Biden were more responsible for the current economy, and voters chose Trump, 62%-32%.

 

https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/20/politics/inflation-polls-trump?cid=android_app

 

 

9 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

 

Another GDP disciple lol. Even that was steady up until Q1 2020 - wonder why that was?

The question you should be asking is "If very little change, why give credit to Trump/"

9 hours ago, nauseus said:

 

 

Another GDP disciple lol. Even that was steady up until Q1 2020 - wonder why that was?

Here are the unemployment figures for Obama's second term and for Trumps up until covid makes its effects felt. Again, if you see some marked change in the slope, it's time for a vision check.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

The question you should be asking is "If very little change, why give credit to Trump/"

Trump deserves absolutely no credit for anything that he's done in this lifetime. He has brought nothing but pain and misery everywhere he goes. 

Will the economy beat Trump?

---

 

Yep.

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

The question you should be asking is "If very little change, why give credit to Trump/"

 

I wasn't giving anyone any credit. You were trying to discredit Trump and other Republicans, as if Biden was not a problem at all.

 

Try asking yourself these questions and stop cherry-picking data while you're at it.

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Here are the unemployment figures for Obama's second term and for Trumps up until covid makes its effects felt. Again, if you see some marked change in the slope, it's time for a vision check.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/UNRATE

 

 

Wow! And here's me thinking that GDP and UE were two  different things! 

 

Oh, hang on! 🤪

 

 

3 hours ago, Mike_Hunt said:

Joe Biden is more responsible for high inflation than for abundant jobs

The main effect of the president’s economic policies has been to boost prices

 

https://www.economist.com/leaders/2023/05/11/joe-biden-is-more-responsible-for-high-inflation-than-for-abundant-jobs

That report from The Economist was dated May 11, 2025.

Here's some info that offers a better historical perspective

Here's the US inflation rate:

https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/inflation-cpi

 

Here's the eurozone inflation rate:

 

 

https://tradingeconomics.com/euro-area/gdp-growth

 

Was the eurozone inflation's rate Biden's fault too?

 

And here's a link to a graph comparing US GDP to Eurozone GDP:

https://statisticstimes.com/economy/united-states-vs-eu-economy.php

As you will note the US GDP growth for that time period greatly outpaced that of the Eurozone.