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Trump to pardon Honduran ex-president drug dealer

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7 minutes ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

 

 

 

 

But you would have to be an idiot not to be seriously concerned by this as a Trump supporter and at minimum require a full explanation why this should be a thing. It's good we can agree on that. Thanks. 

Who cares

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  • Woke to Sounds
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    Mr Trump realises that people often make mistakes, but it doesn't necessarily mean the person is bad or recidivistic.   Live and learn, smile on your brother and let's not jump to conclusion

  • He may be about to wage war in order to depose what he claims is a drug dealing president of a Latin American country. And while engaged in that effort, he pardons another drug dealing president of a

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    But but but… Biden

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11 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Trump Says he Plans to Pardon Former Honduran President Hernandez for 2024 Drug Trafficking Sentence

WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump said Friday that he will be pardoning former Honduran President Juan Orlando Hernandez, who in 2024 was convicted for drug trafficking and weapons charges and sentenced to 45 years in prison.

The president explained his decision on Truth Social by posting that “according to many people that I greatly respect,” Hernandez was “treated very harshly and unfairly

https://www.newsmax.com/world/globaltalk/trump-hernandez-honduras-pardon/2025/11/28/id/1236372/

 

I don't know if it's dementia or insanity behind this decision. What's next? Will he appoint this guy to be interim president of Venezuela?

 

 

The timing is designed to coincide with the Honduras elections. The US government is backing the Conservative candidate, and calles the opposition "narcocommunists", the Libre Party lead by the former Defence Minister.

 

https://english.elpais.com/international/2025-11-27/trump-intervenes-in-honduras-elections-to-support-the-conservative-candidate.html

 

The Americans have warned that if Hondurans vote is a way they don't support, they will cease cooperation with the country. The current government, represented by the Libre Party that Trump is attacking, recently signed a deportation agreement with the US.

 

The pardon seems certain to push Honduras increasingly into the control of a particular cartel.

 

 

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29 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Who cares

 

You would if it means that Honduras comes under the control of the cartels and kill your kids or something.

20 minutes ago, Harrisfan said:

Who cares

You post an awful lot about him so I suppose that means that morality and fairness, and being seen to treat everyone equally under the law, are not important factors in your choices of a politician. That helps makes sense of how you can be a Trump supporter. 

 

 

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

An expected response from someone who actually has a picture of George Soros as an avatar

 

Your point isn't helped by your own choice of avatar, which is fairly psychologically suspect. On the other hand, there is another poster who uses the image of a violent (but fictional) drug dealer to  push his cadh. Does he admire fictional violent drug dealers? Who knows. One retard American poster thinks he's English, if you go by avatars. You are not a Chinese general.

2 hours ago, pomchop said:

Somewhere I suspect that a large amount of crypto just landed in the trump family holdings courtesy of pardoned Honduras Drug Dealer.

BINGO!!!the most corrupt president in our history no doubt about it!!

7 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Trump said Hernández. who was sentenced in New York last year to 45 years in prison for conspiring with drug traffickers to move over 400 tons of cocaine into the U.S.

 

How many small Venezuelan fishing boats would it take to move that amount?

2 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

 

Your point isn't helped by your own choice of avatar, which is fairly psychologically suspect. On the other hand, there is another poster who uses the image of a violent (but fictional) drug dealer to  push his cadh. Does he admire fictional violent drug dealers? Who knows. One retard American poster thinks he's English, if you go by avatars. You are not a Chinese general.

 

It is not unreasonable to assume that people support the core principles embodied by public figures they use as avatars. Soros' world view, which he spent decades implementing, is philosophically and politically antithetical to everything Trump personifies, and therefore I don't expect a reasonable – or even an honest – discussion with someone who uses a picture of him to represent them on a forum.

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3 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It is not unreasonable to assume that people support the core principles embodied by public figures they use as avatars. Soros' world view, which he spent decades implementing, is philosophically and politically antithetical to everything Trump personifies, and therefore I don't expect a reasonable – or even an honest – discussion with someone who uses a picture of him to represent them on a forum.

I think that's what's reasonable to assume is that someone like you who has demonstrated that he has so little acquaintance with the facts that he can claim "Trump is the first President to actually fight the plague of cartel drug trafficking, do you acknowledge this fact?", is also someone who doesn't like being shown up by his ignorance so he resorts to to BS about avatars. Show some guts and debate using facts and reason for a change. So far, all you've shown is that you've got nothing.

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2 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

 

Your point isn't helped by your own choice of avatar, which is fairly psychologically suspect. On the other hand, there is another poster who uses the image of a violent (but fictional) drug dealer to  push his cadh. Does he admire fictional violent drug dealers? Who knows. One retard American poster thinks he's English, if you go by avatars. You are not a Chinese general.

Rattlesnake is so ignorant about this topic that he apparently doesn't know that Venezuela is a very minor player in supplying North America with cocaine. As people who study this sort of thing know, most cocaine comes to the US via Central America and Mexico or from the Pacific coast. Shipments via Venezuela mostly end up in Europe. So why is Trump trying to stop cocaine from going to Europe? If Rattlesnake had any genuine inklings on this subject at all, he would know that this just doesn't make sense. That whatever the reason Trump is going after Venezuela, the drug attacks are pretextual. Unless, of course, Rattlesnake believes that Trump is genuinely so concerned about the Europeans that he's willing to devote resources to protecting them rather than Americans.

And, of course, there is the issue of whether interdiction actually can put a serious dent in the drugs trade. But that seems to be an issue outside of Rattlesnake's ken.

19 minutes ago, rattlesnake said:

 

It is not unreasonable to assume that people support the core principles embodied by public figures they use as avatars. Soros' world view, which he spent decades implementing, is philosophically and politically antithetical to everything Trump personifies, and therefore I don't expect a reasonable – or even an honest – discussion with someone who uses a picture of him to represent them on a forum.

 

Cobblers. This is a Forum. Avatars don't mean anything, except to you. And Riclag. You really consider yourself to be a master strategist? Looking at your posting history, I'd put you in another bucket. You don't uphold your own principles of honest discussion looking at some of your previous posts.

55 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I think that's what's reasonable to assume is that someone like you who has demonstrated that he has so little acquaintance with the facts that he can claim "Trump is the first President to actually fight the plague of cartel drug trafficking, do you acknowledge this fact?", is also someone who doesn't like being shown up by his ignorance so he resorts to to BS about avatars. Show some guts and debate using facts and reason for a change. So far, all you've shown is that you've got nothing.

 

Your anger says a lot about you.

35 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

You really consider yourself to be a master strategist?

 

That's a bold assumption. I do like The Art of War though, great book.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Your anger says a lot about you.

 

Psychologist as well as a Master Strategist. Its an effing forum. Calm down dear.

3 minutes ago, Roadsternut said:

 

Psychologist as well as a Master Strategist. Its an effing forum. Calm down dear.

 

Says the guy using the F word. Why are you so uptight?

6 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

 

 

 

 

But you would have to be an idiot not to be seriously concerned by this as a Trump supporter and at minimum require a full explanation why this should be a thing. It's good we can agree on that. Thanks. 

 

It looks like Trump's typical approach: make an outrageous statement and cause an antagonistic response within the anti-Trump public and media, in order to draw attention to an issue and keep it in the spotlight. There already are hordes of people going nuts on social media about this, with slogans such as "hands off Latin America". These are people who didn't care about what went on in Lat-Am under Obama, despite the fact that the mechanisms of subversion in these countries were worse then than they are now.

 

It should be recalled that Trump has deployed unprecedented means to fight drug trafficking in the US (counter-narcotics operations in the Caribbean and Eastern Pacific, border security, the designation of Venezuela's "Cartel de los Soles" as a foreign terrorist organization, shutting down of dark web marketplaces such as AlphaBay, cooperation with China and Mexico to reduce the supply of heroin, fentanyl, and other illicit opioids…).

 

Ultimately, whether or not he actually goes through with the pardon is irrelevant to the broader issue, but as usual, Trump has thrown a bait and people are jumping on it. The result is broader awareness combined with actual political action.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Your anger says a lot about you.


It’s the vaccine.  

3 minutes ago, Airalee said:


It’s the vaccine.  

 

True the Science™ proponents are on edge these days… when they haven't vanished altogether.

7 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Trump is the first President to actually fight the plague of cartel drug trafficking, do you acknowledge this fact?

He should fight the drug use by US citizens.

AND NO as he wants to pardon a guy who bought in tons of drugs into the USA who was convicted earlier.

 

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6 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

He should fight the drug use by US citizens.

 

 

He is. He has secured billions for education and awareness campaigns on the dangers of opioid use, in partnership with the Ad Council and the Truth Initiative. He is funding an initiative to support recovering addicts and has implemented the Safer Prescribing Plan which aims to cut nationwide opioid prescription by one third, as well as promote best practices among healthcare providers. It's a two-pronged approach, neutralise the foreign cartels and raise support and awareness domestically.

17 hours ago, Woke to Sounds said:

Mr Trump realises that people often make mistakes, but it doesn't necessarily mean the person is bad or recidivistic.

Live and learn, smile on your brother and let's not jump to conclusions.

 

 Take the time to read the case, including the evidence. It is compelling.  The man is a right wing despot who restricted civil liberties.  It is people like this who create support for radical leftist groups.  This is a politically motivated decision.

1 hour ago, rattlesnake said:

 

He is. He has secured billions for education and awareness campaigns on the dangers of opioid use, in partnership with the Ad Council and the Truth Initiative. He is funding an initiative to support recovering addicts and has implemented the Safer Prescribing Plan which aims to cut nationwide opioid prescription by one third, as well as promote best practices among healthcare providers. It's a two-pronged approach, neutralise the foreign cartels and raise support and awareness domestically.

You "forgot" a part:" he wants to pardon a guy who bought in tons of drugs into the USA who was convicted earlier"

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32 minutes ago, FritsSikkink said:

You "forgot" a part:" he wants to pardon a guy who bought in tons of drugs into the USA who was convicted earlier"

 

I didn't forget it, you added it afterwards. As I explained earlier, it looks like typical Trump media baiting. If he really intended to partake in shady dealings, he wouldn't promote it himself on social media, but I appreciate this is already too subtle for the average Trump-hater to fathom.

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6 hours ago, rattlesnake said:

 

Your anger says a lot about you.

Ii raise several specific issue to show the flaws in your reason and your ignorance of the facts, and this is all you've got? It's laughable.

11 hours ago, Roadsternut said:

 

You would if it means that Honduras comes under the control of the cartels and kill your kids or something.

Cool

11 hours ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

You post an awful lot about him so I suppose that means that morality and fairness, and being seen to treat everyone equally under the law, are not important factors in your choices of a politician. That helps makes sense of how you can be a Trump supporter. 

 

 

Who cares

Just now, Fat is a type of crazy said:

I mean we are talking pretty basic concepts here. Not spending hours waxing lyrical about tariffs or something. Making a comment about the use of pardon powers is a broad moral issue and doesn't require much thought or expertise. I am surprised sometimes how Trump supporters can find ways not to be critical is all. There's the - Biden did it - or he's just making dumb Democrats react - or your approach. Interesting for me I suppose. 

I dont support anyone and net arguments dont solve anything. You lefties need to take your hand off it. Sitting on a keyboard pretending to be an expert on world affairs is a joke.

Just now, Harrisfan said:

I dont support anyone and net arguments dont solve anything. You lefties need to take your hand off it. Sitting on a keyboard pretending to be an expert on world affairs is a joke.

There I was thinking I was changing the world. Damn. 

1 minute ago, Fat is a type of crazy said:

There I was thinking I was changing the world. Damn. 

So get off your soap box.

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