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Artificial ‘intelligence’—we don't have a choice

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2 hours ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

I'm pretty sure the bible says Eve made a birthday cake for Adam with 930 candles on it. Check it out:

 

"The Bible records incredibly long lifespans for figures before the Great Flood, with Methuselah living the longest at 969 years, followed by Jared (962), Noah (950), and Adam (930), with patriarchs often living over 900 years. After the flood, lifespans gradually decreased, with figures like Shem living 600 years and Abraham living 175 years, eventually settling around 70-80 years by the time of Moses, who lived to 120. Explanations for these ages range from genetic factors and atmospheric changes to symbolic interpretations or different calendar systems, with a gradual decline noted in the biblical texts." 

I turned off after your first three quoted words.

And anyone who believes in 3000 year old stories needs their head seeing to.

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  • Depends how you understand and use it.   Keep it real then.   No, it doesn´t

29 minutes ago, worgeordie said:

I am becoming worried how the future ,not too distant either, is going to bring

you can see AI videos on Youtube ,you only know are AI ,because they are not

possible , but as these creators improve ,nothing is going to be certain ,it's

going to cause a lot of confusion , and who knows what else is possible

when some evil bastard gets good at doing this "Stuff"

 

regards worgeordie

They already do that now with fake news, from 'trustworthy' news sources :cheesy:

 

By simply editing and taking things out of context.    Spew lies in news, talk shows, and people believe it.  Seems most media, movies, TV series push an agenda.

 

I'm amazed at what people think and believe.  Even after repeated exposure of the BS, they still fall for it, and new BS they're fed.

 

The level of corruption & control is scary.   Even scarier, people are to stupid to see, or don't want to, ore worse, see it and accept it.   Fear to speak out against it.   That sadly is understandable.

 

I banged my head against the wall, gave up, learned, joined & used the system, then left it ASAP.   Never looking back and happier for it.

On 12/14/2025 at 8:57 AM, Henk Langeweg said:

Why is Human 'intelligence' not AI?

 

We might be, if we are a simulation 

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3 hours ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

I'm pretty sure the bible says Eve made a birthday cake for Adam with 930 candles on it. Check it out:

 

"The Bible records incredibly long lifespans for figures before the Great Flood, with Methuselah living the longest at 969 years, followed by Jared (962), Noah (950), and Adam (930), with patriarchs often living over 900 years. After the flood, lifespans gradually decreased, with figures like Shem living 600 years and Abraham living 175 years, eventually settling around 70-80 years by the time of Moses, who lived to 120. Explanations for these ages range from genetic factors and atmospheric changes to symbolic interpretations or different calendar systems, with a gradual decline noted in the biblical texts." 

Also St. Dick of Van Dyke who lived to be 100. 

6 hours ago, unblocktheplanet said:

Well, that certainly explains the Immaculate Conception!

Was Madonna around in those days.           Oh, sorry, Mary WAS the Madonna.

2 hours ago, Will Iam Not said:

I turned off after your first three quoted words.

And anyone who believes in 3000 year old stories needs their head seeing to.

I certainly don't believe in it. I posted it to point out that this is where some of AI's information comes from...google. 

10 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

IMHO, anyone over 60 (and I'm being kind) should have their retirement already planned, if not living it.   Especially if not from the USA, as those UK/EU socialist countries already have it planned for you, or so I read.

 

Arthritic & 68 yrs old already, then you or anyone should be enjoying their retirement already. 

 

If needed, I could easily go back to chimney sweeping, or renew my CDL, or do any of the jobs I listed.   Simply buy a pick up truck, van, real SUV, for equipment ladders, or trailer (as I did before buying a truck), and do any of those jobs.

 

Reality, I'd just invest in the markets again, but for those with no experience, then do something service oriented.

 

Or simply answer the phone, get the jobs, (if physically limited) and hire 1 or 2 twenty - ish yr olds to work for me.  Far from rocket science or impossible to do.

 

At 60 yrs old, everyone should be able to handle for a career ending event.  It's called planning your life.  Should actually have enough assets to make any adjustment necessary.

 

LIVE WITH YOUR CHOICES ... if living financially, month to month after the age of 50, you truly failed in life.   I don't even know how that's possible, (this coming from a LPOS) unless making every bad decision I could think of, or having a major addiction.

 

Fascinating.  You, sir, are a beacon for all.

9 hours ago, Baht Simpson said:

Also St. Dick of Van Dyke who lived to be 100. 

 

Extraordinary to think it's already six decades since he presented to the world the worst Cockney accent attempt in human history. Many happy returns DVD! 

I'm not sure all these billionaires and the rich have thought this through properly. Developing AI for the industrial military complex seems logical and profitable, but automating everything and replacing humans will mean sky-rocketing unemployment... so who's going to have the money to buy any of their products in the future? A lot of normal people have to use food banks/charities because they can't afford the basics even now. A declining % of the public is the answer, which means slimmer profit margins for these big companies unless you end up allowing everyone to have this stuff on the never-ever payment plans. And that's before we even get started on the feckless, lazy, and work-shy that just want to sponge and do sweet FA.

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20 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

Self employment, as nothing stops people from earning.  Many middle & upper income people don't have time, or want to do simple, almost unskilled tasks = opportunity ...

 

... chimney sweep

... clear rain gutter

... pressure wash; dirt, mold, fungus

... paint

... landscape

... pool maintenance

... snow removal

... get a CDL, never too old, and always in demand

 

Just a few off the top of my head.   Think outside the box and or your skillset if no applicable to earn unless an employee.   Simply be your own.

 

Self employment pays better, and beats the hell out of being an employee.

 

Ah, I get it. All those middle-class will become chimneysweeps now that AI have made their jobs redundant. They need the exercise anyway...

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14 hours ago, ColeBOzbourne said:

I certainly don't believe in it. I posted it to point out that this is where some of AI's information comes from...google. 

Think it's the other way around. Google is informed by AI.

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19 hours ago, KhunLA said:

 

IMHO, anyone over 60 (and I'm being kind) should have their retirement already planned, if not living it.   Especially if not from the USA, as those UK/EU socialist countries already have it planned for you, or so I read.

 

Arthritic & 68 yrs old already, then you or anyone should be enjoying their retirement already. 

 

If needed, I could easily go back to chimney sweeping, or renew my CDL, or do any of the jobs I listed.   Simply buy a pick up truck, van, real SUV, for equipment ladders, or trailer (as I did before buying a truck), and do any of those jobs.

 

Reality, I'd just invest in the markets again, but for those with no experience, then do something service oriented.

 

Or simply answer the phone, get the jobs, (if physically limited) and hire 1 or 2 twenty - ish yr olds to work for me.  Far from rocket science or impossible to do.

 

At 60 yrs old, everyone should be able to handle for a career ending event.  It's called planning your life.  Should actually have enough assets to make any adjustment necessary.

 

LIVE WITH YOUR CHOICES ... if living financially, month to month after the age of 50, you truly failed in life.   I don't even know how that's possible, (this coming from a LPOS) unless making every bad decision I could think of, or having a major addiction.

I can tell: you're a tough love kind of guy. You presume that money will be worth anything, or even exist. The trillionaires, honestly, won't need your paltry millions.

 

Will civilised countries (meaning, not the USA) still have public healthcare?

 

Many people don't have money in their old age, no matter how meticulously they've planned. Attrition, redundancy does it for jobs. Divorce or family illness uses it up rapidly. Bail money for you kids.

 

Glad, Bud, you've got it made and all figured out. But don't expect others to necessarily be as lucky. 

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