December 21, 2025Dec 21 Popular Post 2 minutes ago, Patong2021 said: Didn't take long for one of the resident bigots to pounce on an opportunity to circulate some more hateful commentary. Jew hating is fashionable with terrorist supporters and the trolling morons that feed off them.
December 21, 2025Dec 21 17 minutes ago, Jingthing said: Go to youtube or facebook etc. now to most any and all topics touching on either Jews or Israel, and you will find the same type Nazi type filth in abundance. Its your Socialist buddies that push it.
December 21, 2025Dec 21 1 hour ago, Nick Carter icp said: You are siding with the far right wing Neo Nazis . You are on THEIR side . You are shoulder to shoulder with the far right neo Nazis opposing Israel's existence No I’m not . In Charlottesville, rightwing neonazis were chanting ‘the Jews will not replace us’ while waving Nazi flags. Trump responded with the scurrilous teamak ‘there are good people in both sides’ You’ll not find any comment from me that supports Trumps disgusting comment. When the extremists on the right have finished with immigrants, Muslims and the LBTQ community they will turn in the Jews. Refer Farage’s history on the matter.
December 21, 2025Dec 21 2 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: Remember, ‘there are good people on both sides’. Why don't you post the entire quote"
December 21, 2025Dec 21 Posts containing unsubstantiated material from dubious sources were removed, as were off topic references to the Second World War, as were off topic references to events relating to the formation of the State of Israel, as were off topic references to events in Gaza, as were off topic references to US politics. Please debate the topic. Thank you. Please also keep in mind the rules that you agreed to when you joined us. Read them. We welcome balanced and factual discussion from both sides, but you will be removed from the conversation, and perhaps the whole forum, if you peddle hatred here. Thank you.
December 21, 2025Dec 21 10 hours ago, Social Media said: driven by the fallout from the 7 October Hamas attacks, the war in Gaza, I understand how Jewish citizens feel caught between their cultural identity and the actions of the Israeli state, and can only plead for them to stop supporting Israel and fight for a Palestinian state and the UK government to impose sanctions on Israel. Otherwise, this terrible antisemitism will get worse.
December 21, 2025Dec 21 5 minutes ago, JimCM said: I understand how Jewish citizens feel caught between their cultural identity and the actions of the Israeli state, and can only plead for them to stop supporting Israel and fight for a Palestinian state and the UK government to impose sanctions on Israel. Otherwise, this terrible antisemitism will get worse. Deleted ; Might be off topic
December 21, 2025Dec 21 Not just in the UK but all over the world, the hatred against jews or Israelis, is highly rising and going global.
December 21, 2025Dec 21 12 hours ago, TorquayFan said: It's easy to confuse anti-semitism with an anti-Israel position . . . . . Who gets to define antisemitism? The victims or the perpetrators? Or an outside body? For the haters of Israel to define antisemitism is equivalent to the Ku Klux Klan defining racism. The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance, the world's leading institution regarding the Holocaust and antisemitism, has a working definition of antisemitism that has been adopted by numerous countries and organizations. The IHRA states: "Manifestations might include the targeting of the state of Israel, conceived as a Jewish collectivity," and gives the following examples, among others: Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor. Applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation. Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis. Holding Jews collectively responsible for actions of the state of Israel. It also states: "However, criticism of Israel similar to that leveled against any other country cannot be regarded as antisemitic." https://holocaustremembrance.com/resources/working-definition-antisemitism
December 21, 2025Dec 21 8 hours ago, TorquayFan said: Tai your reply is over the top for Posters who are taking an honest enough look at this. I get the pain and the fear you feel - I was talking to a Friend who happens to be Jewish this morning - (I would treat him the same, whatever his Religion). It is fair to observe that many Israelis are uncomfortable with Netanyahu's policies. Take it easy - these rumblings in the UK will pass hopefully . . . I am not Jewish or British. I feel no pain or fear about British Jewry. What I do feel is anger.
December 21, 2025Dec 21 This is a very good opinion piece on this topic. Every Jew I know of any nationality says the same thing: antisemitism is more prevalent today than at any time since WWII. The British state has failed Jews Jewish children are calling police forces to ask if armed officers can accompany them to Hanukkah parties. Celebrations are taking place behind fencing with security guards and bag checks. Concerned parents write in the letter pages that they fear to display candles in their windows, that their children now train in “evacuation drills”, and that the volunteers at their synagogues wear anti-stab vests. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-british-state-has-failed-jews/ar-AA1SLaMW?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEESS&cvid=6948800476514b6bb24d6ccf7e87097e&ei=4
December 22, 2025Dec 22 51 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said: This is a very good opinion piece on this topic. Every Jew I know of any nationality says the same thing: antisemitism is more prevalent today than at any time since WWII. The British state has failed Jews Jewish children are calling police forces to ask if armed officers can accompany them to Hanukkah parties. Celebrations are taking place behind fencing with security guards and bag checks. Concerned parents write in the letter pages that they fear to display candles in their windows, that their children now train in “evacuation drills”, and that the volunteers at their synagogues wear anti-stab vests. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-british-state-has-failed-jews/ar-AA1SLaMW?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=EDGEESS&cvid=6948800476514b6bb24d6ccf7e87097e&ei=4 This is a direct consequence of Israel's genocide in Gaza. It would help if British Jews called out Israel's actions in Gaza. The world sees what is going on and it's down to the righteous (Jews included) to call it out, especially religious leaders.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 5 hours ago, Evil Penevil said: Denying the Jewish people their right to self-determination, e.g., by claiming that the existence of a State of Israel is a racist endeavor. AI has this to say... Whether Israel is a “racist endeavour” is a deeply contested claim. The International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance (IHRA) explicitly defines calling Israel’s existence a racist endeavour as an example of antisemitism, while critics from anti-colonial and pro-Palestinian perspectives argue that Israel’s founding and policies embody systemic discrimination Calling Israel a “racist endeavour” is not a neutral description—it is a politically charged statement. Supporters of Israel see it as antisemitic denial of Jewish self-determination, while critics frame it as a factual description of systemic discrimination against Palestinians. The truth depends on whether one views Zionism primarily as a liberation movement for Jews or as a colonial project at Palestinians’ expense. 5 hours ago, Evil Penevil said: Drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis. Where the Comparison Comes From Critics of Israel’s policies (especially regarding Gaza and the West Bank) sometimes use terms like apartheid, ethnic cleansing, or even Nazism to describe perceived systemic oppression of Palestinians. The IHRA definition of antisemitism explicitly lists “drawing comparisons of contemporary Israeli policy to that of the Nazis” as an example of antisemitism. Human rights organizations (e.g., Amnesty International, Human Rights Watch) have used the term apartheid, but not Nazi analogies. They argue Israel enforces a system of domination over Palestinians, but they stop short of Holocaust comparisons. Jewish and Israeli voices often stress that Nazi analogies delegitimize Jewish suffering and weaponize Holocaust memory for political ends. Balanced Takeaway Legitimate criticism of Israel’s policies exists—terms like occupation, apartheid, and collective punishment are widely debated in international law. Nazi comparisons are rejected by mainstream historians, Jewish organizations, and human rights groups as misleading and harmful. The more constructive framing is to analyze Israel’s policies through international law (human rights, humanitarian law, occupation law) rather than Holocaust analogies.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 42 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: This is a direct consequence of Israel's genocide in Gaza. It would help if British Jews called out Israel's actions in Gaza. The world sees what is going on and it's down to the righteous (Jews included) to call it out, especially religious leaders. Many British Jews do call out Israel’s war crimes in Gaza. Many British Jews have joined the protests in London against Israel’s war on the Palestinians. It would take you moments to find that out: https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/jewish-bloc-joins-hundreds-of-thousands-on-mass-protest-for-palestine/
December 22, 2025Dec 22 59 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: This is a direct consequence of Israel's genocide in Gaza. It would help if British Jews called out Israel's actions in Gaza. You are holding Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the current Israeli government. That's one of the examples the IHRA definition gives of antisemitism. Since you seem to be a fan of AI-generated commentary, let's see what it says on that point. "Holding Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the State of Israel is widely recognized as a form of antisemitism according to multiple authoritative definitions and analyses. This concept involves blaming all Jews, particularly those living outside Israel, for the policies or conduct of the Israeli government, despite their lack of direct influence or citizenship in the state. This practice is considered a modern manifestation of the historical antisemitic trope of "dual loyalty," which falsely claims that Jews are inherently disloyal to their countries of residence and more loyal to Israel or a global Jewish agenda."
December 22, 2025Dec 22 1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said: This is a direct consequence of Israel's genocide in Gaza. It would help if British Jews called out Israel's actions in Gaza. The world sees what is going on and it's down to the righteous (Jews included) to call it out, especially religious leaders. 29 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said: You are holding Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the current Israeli government. That's one of the examples the IHRA definition gives of antisemitism. Since you seem to be a fan of AI-generated commentary, let's see what it says on that point. "Holding Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the State of Israel is widely recognized as a form of antisemitism according to multiple authoritative definitions and analyses. This concept involves blaming all Jews, particularly those living outside Israel, for the policies or conduct of the Israeli government, despite their lack of direct influence or citizenship in the state. This practice is considered a modern manifestation of the historical antisemitic trope of "dual loyalty," which falsely claims that Jews are inherently disloyal to their countries of residence and more loyal to Israel or a global Jewish agenda." Where do I say "I hold jews collectively responsible for the actions of the state of Israel" ? The actions of Israel are fueling antisemitism worldwide, not just Britain. I am saying that it would help if Jews were seen to call out the actions of the state of Israel. Your post is another perfect example of 'he's calling out Israel, lets call him antisemitic'
December 22, 2025Dec 22 48 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Many British Jews do call out Israel’s war crimes in Gaza. Many British Jews have joined the protests in London against Israel’s war on the Palestinians. It would take you moments to find that out: https://www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/jewish-bloc-joins-hundreds-of-thousands-on-mass-protest-for-palestine/ The point is, if I have to take a moment to find out that many British Jews have joined protests, then probably most British people don't know either. If they don't know, they are likely to see the Jewish community as condoning Israel's actions. QED, under 1% is not enough. There are no reliable statistics showing what percentage of British Jews joined pro‑Palestine protests in London. Evidence indicates that hundreds of British Jews have participated, signed letters, or publicly supported demonstrations, but this represents only a small fraction of the UK’s Jewish population (around 270,000–300,000 people). 🧾 What We Know Hundreds of British Jews have signed open letters or petitions supporting pro‑Palestine protests and opposing police bans. Groups such as Jewish Voice for Labour and Neturei Karta have visibly joined large London marches. The overall Jewish population in the UK is estimated at ~270,000–300,000. Even if 1,000–2,000 individuals participated, that would be well under 1% of the community.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 16 hours ago, Chomper Higgot said: The head of the political party leading in the polls is an unapologetic antisemite. And there’s no shortage of people eager to defend him. Really? He may have shouted some stupid slogans as a teenage boy some 50 years ago, and is now refusing to jump through the blazing circus hoops which his political opponents have set up for him! You do talk some utter rubbish at times Chomper!
December 22, 2025Dec 22 Popular Post 45 minutes ago, Evil Penevil said: You are holding Jews collectively responsible for the actions of the current Israeli government. No. He is saying that Israeli actions reflect on the way Jews are viewed. He is not saying he agrees with that reflection.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 15 minutes ago, JBChiangRai said: The actions of Israel are fueling antisemitism worldwide, not just Britain. Just wondering , why didn't the actions of the Buddhist Burmese government fuel a wave of Anti semitism Buddhism Worldwide , when they participated in genocide against the Rohingya ? Why didn't the World oppose the Buddhist religion then ?
December 22, 2025Dec 22 59 minutes ago, JAG said: Really? He may have shouted some stupid slogans as a teenage boy some 50 years ago, and is now refusing to jump through the blazing circus hoops which his political opponents have set up for him! You do talk some utter rubbish at times Chomper! As I said, there’s no shortage of people eager to defend him. Try this: Why will he not make a clean break of it and apologize? My view is he as the head of a political party that has racism at its core, he needs to keep his racist base onboard. Regardless, he has ambitions to be the PM, its entirely right that as he gets closer to that ambition he is subjected to scrutiny. The blazing hoops are set up by his own past behavior and refusal to apologize or acknowledge the harm he inflicted. He is unquestionably an avowed and unapologetic racist and antisemite.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 1 hour ago, JBChiangRai said: The point is, if I have to take a moment to find out that many British Jews have joined protests, then probably most British people don't know either. If they don't know, they are likely to see the Jewish community as condoning Israel's actions. QED, under 1% is not enough. There are no reliable statistics showing what percentage of British Jews joined pro‑Palestine protests in London. Evidence indicates that hundreds of British Jews have participated, signed letters, or publicly supported demonstrations, but this represents only a small fraction of the UK’s Jewish population (around 270,000–300,000 people). 🧾 What We Know Hundreds of British Jews have signed open letters or petitions supporting pro‑Palestine protests and opposing police bans. Groups such as Jewish Voice for Labour and Neturei Karta have visibly joined large London marches. The overall Jewish population in the UK is estimated at ~270,000–300,000. Even if 1,000–2,000 individuals participated, that would be well under 1% of the community. You are extrapolating from your own ignorance. That you are ignorant of the fact many British Jews have joined the protests is not evidence the wider public are likewise ignorant. But there is a wider point, you are assuming Jews do not condemn Israel’s actions and you are demanding that they should demonstrate their opposition. It’s the same argument many here make about Muslims and Islamic terrorism. Nobody is demanding white Christian Brits demonstrate their opposition to Israel’s actions in Gaza nor are they targeting white Christian communities. British Jews, for the most part, have absolutely no part in the crimes being committed by Israel, there is no justification for attacking the British Jewish community. There are British Jews who have voluntarily served with the IDF in Gaza and/or openly support Israel’s actions in Gaza, those individuals should be held accountable, not the whole Jewish community.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 12 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: There are British Jews who have voluntarily served with the IDF in Gaza and/or openly support Israel’s actions in Gaza, those individuals should be held accountable, Held accountable for what, and by whom? It is not against the law for a British Citizen to serve in a foreign army. If there is real "stand up in court" evidence that an individual has committed a crime then they can perhaps be tried for those crimes, but not for simply serving in the IDF; no more than an individual can be put on trial for supporting Israel's actions in Gaza.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 4 minutes ago, JAG said: Held accountable for what, and by whom? It is not against the law for a British Citizen to serve in a foreign army. If there is real "stand up in court" evidence that an individual has committed a crime then they can perhaps be tried for those crimes, but not for simply serving in the IDF; no more than an individual can be put on trial for supporting Israel's actions in Gaza. It is against the law for British citizens to commit war crimes and/or engage in war crimes. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/apr/07/ten-britons-accused-of-committing-war-crimes-while-fighting-for-israel-in-gaza#:~:text=Israel has persistently denied that,took six months to compile.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 4 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: It is against the law for British citizens to commit war crimes and/or engage in war crimes. https://www.theguardian.com/law/2025/apr/07/ten-britons-accused-of-committing-war-crimes-while-fighting-for-israel-in-gaza#:~:text=Israel has persistently denied that,took six months to compile. But its not against the law to serve in the IDF
December 22, 2025Dec 22 Popular Post 43 minutes ago, Nick Carter icp said: But its not against the law to serve in the IDF Not true. The UK has recognised the Palestinian State and is not at war with it: ”Penalty on enlistment in service of foreign state. If any person, without the license of Her Majesty, being a British subject, within or without Her Majesty’s dominions, accepts or agrees to accept any commission or engagement in the military or naval service of any foreign state at war with any foreign state at peace with Her Majesty, and in this Act referred to as a friendly state, or whether a British subject or not within Her Majesty’s dominions, induces any other person to accept or agree to accept any commission or engagement in the military or naval service of any such foreign state as aforesaid,— He shall be guilty of an offence against this Act, and shall be punishable by fine and imprisonment, or either of such punishments, at the discretion of the court before which the offender is convicted; “ https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/33-34/90
December 22, 2025Dec 22 Tucker Carlson is branded as the "Antisemite of the Year" for 2025 by StopAntisemitism, a Washington, D.C.-based nonprofit organization described as a grassroots watchdog group focused on exposing and combating antisemitism. Do I perceive Tucker Carlson as an "antisemite?" Nope. It's exactly that fast and loose used of words like Antisemite and Antisemitism which create the conditions where people simply reject the terms. These terms have become pejoratives which are in themselves devoid of substantive meaning. It is unfortunate the these term are being equated to anyone who dares criticism Israeli or Zionist policies. The term used to mean anyone who hated Jewish people for being Jewish. And I agree, that hatred based on religion is wrong. But the terms have been twisted to now mean anyone who dares to justly criticize Israel or Israelis for their colonial settler policies. Hence labeling Tucker Carlson an "antisemite." So the "surge in UK "antisemitism" is essentially a shift in public opinion regarding Israel's destruction of Gaza and their colonial settler policies. Most people who are criticizing Israeli policy, like myself, do not "hate" or even dislike Jewish people for being born into a Jewish family. But pro-Israeli organizations like "StopAntisemitism" wrongly use the label to shut down valid criticism of the Israeli government.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 19 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said: He also gives his full support to Israel Nigel Farage is a strong supporter of Israel, though he describes his position as being a "critical friend". As leader of the Reform UK party, his stance is generally pro-Israel, backing continued weapons exports and opposing the recognition of a Palestinian state under current conditions Precisely why pols were afraid enough of losing profits that they banned Palestine Action as terrorists. When are Jews going to realise that being antiwar, antigenocide, antistarvation does not equal antisemitic? Yet two-thirds of Israelis support the IDF, a further two-thirds worldwide identify as Zionist. And Israelis elected a warmonger who appointed other warmongers to rule the country. Vicious cycle. Two states. True peace. Israel keeps its missiles to itself.
December 22, 2025Dec 22 2 minutes ago, unblocktheplanet said: . When are Jews going to realise that being antiwar, antigenocide, antistarvation does not equal antisemitic?b Which Jews are you referring to ? Which Jews think that being antiwar, antigenocide, antistarvation is antisemitic?
December 22, 2025Dec 22 39 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said: Not true. The UK has recognised the Palestinian State and is not at war with it: ”Penalty on enlistment in service of foreign state. If any person, without the license of Her Majesty, being a British subject, within or without Her Majesty’s dominions, accepts or agrees to accept any commission or engagement in the military or naval service of any foreign state at war with any foreign state at peace with Her Majesty, and in this Act referred to as a friendly state, or whether a British subject or not within Her Majesty’s dominions, induces any other person to accept or agree to accept any commission or engagement in the military or naval service of any such foreign state as aforesaid,— He shall be guilty of an offence against this Act, and shall be punishable by fine and imprisonment, or either of such punishments, at the discretion of the court before which the offender is convicted; “ https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/Vict/33-34/90 Exceptions are that UK citizens can join a foreign Army who are fighting against terrorists : The Law: The Foreign Enlistment Act 1870 prohibits British subjects from accepting commissions in foreign states at war with a "friendly state" (one at peace with Britain). Exceptions/Complexities: It doesn't typically apply to joining forces in a foreign civil war or fighting terrorism. For dual nationals, obligations depend on the laws of both countries, but the UK government's stance is that citizens shouldn't serve abroad.
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