1 hour ago, Myran said:

Sure, but it would be easy for Cambodia to deny it, and make a big deal internationally about Thailand opening fire during a ceasefire. They are hell-bent on being portrayed as the victim, and Thailand knows that.

 

As the bigger and more developed country, Thailand is already being held to a higher standard internationally, so they have to be more careful in how they deal with things like this. Thailand is wise to maintain their moral high ground.

And which flawless entities decide on exactly what is the moral high ground or the penalties for not maintaining their position ?  netizens ?

After watching an Al Jazeera  item I got the impression that statements about how the ceasefire conditions required both sides to freeze where they were/are left Thai troops inside Cambodia as invaders.

But I think the reality is that the Thai troops were actually on the territory Cambodians have for decades been squatting on and now are claiming as Cambodian territory but have been pushed off.

 

 

6 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

But I think the reality is that the Thai troops were actually on the territory Cambodians have for decades been squatting on and now are claiming as Cambodian territory but have been pushed off.

 

Who says its Thai territory?

9 hours ago, dontpanic said:

I call pure bs on this. No way they could count 250 drones at night. Someone obviously hasn't got enough votes yet! 

Given that these drones were sighted in four different locations it is possible.

The lack of evidence such as video footage makes public opinion purely speculative but give Cambodian tactics to entice retaliation or even simple taunting are well established I can believe the claims.

 

Just now, Yagoda said:

Who says its Thai territory?

Original demarcation when Thailand gave sanctuary to Cambodians fleeing another previous militarized action.

Had Thailand realized these "refugees" would stay as squatters and sent them "home" years ago the situation  might be less complicated  now.

Now Thailand has "reclaimed" the area and raised the Thai flag on it are you qualified to argue against it ?

1 hour ago, 0ffshore360 said:

Original demarcation when Thailand gave sanctuary to Cambodians fleeing another previous militarized action.

Had Thailand realized these "refugees" would stay as squatters and sent them "home" years ago the situation  might be less complicated  now.

Now Thailand has "reclaimed" the area and raised the Thai flag on it are you qualified to argue against it ?

Show us maps and details, other than from Thai propaganda.

 

Guess you are OK with conquering ?"losst" territory though. Ill look for you in the Ukrainian war section

7 minutes ago, Yagoda said:

Show us maps and details, other than from Thai propaganda.

 

Guess you are OK with conquering ?"losst" territory though. Ill look for you in the Ukrainian war section

Go look for the maps yourself.

If such did not exist then where have the disputes arisen from?

The territory I have mentioned is not about new border demarcation. It is about territory Thailand accommodated Cambodian refugees on and now which Cambodians consider Cambodian territory . It is additional to other disputes based on different claims.

You are obviously determined to be argumentative as a means to confirm a  puerile churlish identity .

Good luck and fo.

31 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

 

You are obviously determined to be argumentative as a means to confirm a  puerile churlish identity .

Good luck and fo.

In contrast, you obviously just spew Thai propaganda. Whats FO mean? Another little lame flame?

1 hour ago, Yagoda said:

Show us maps and details, other than from Thai propaganda.

 

Guess you are OK with conquering ?"losst" territory though. Ill look for you in the Ukrainian war section

Says the man who supports Israeli occupation of illegal land and supports Donald Trump in everything he does - including land grabs.

The hypocrisy of the Maga Man knows no bounds.

4 hours ago, 0ffshore360 said:

The territory I have mentioned is not about new border demarcation. It is about territory Thailand accommodated Cambodian refugees on and now which Cambodians consider Cambodian territory . It is additional to other disputes based on different claims.

If it is actually the place where the "Nong Chan refugee camp" was (not to be confused with the nearby Thai village of Nong Chan from which it took its name, but which it was definitrly not licated in), it was entirely within Cambodia. I worked on the border in those camps. There was a large tank ditch built by the Thais along the border and the official Thsi government and Thai military position, publicly stated repeatedly over the years, was that anything to the east of that ditch (which this encampment was) was Cambodia and that thet the refugees there were in Cambodia, not in Thailand. The issue came up often as that was a lot of crime snd human rights abuses going on in those encampments and Aid agencies would request the Thai authoriyies to do something sbout, answer wad always that it wss not their problrm/outside their jurisdiction as it was Cambodia.

There were a few refugee camps that were inside Thailand (most notably Khao I Dang and Phanatnikhom), but majority -- including definitely thd "Nong Chan" camp -- were in Cambodia. The relief operation wss staged from Thsiland but relief workers etc crossed into Cambodia daily for it.

5 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Says the man who supports Israeli occupation of illegal land and supports Donald Trump in everything he does - including land grabs.

What "Land grabs" has Donald Trump done that I support. Details or be deemed a flamer and liar.

What Israeli "occupation" of "illegal lad" do I support? Details or be deemed a flamer and liar.

21 hours ago, emptypockets said:

How have you noticed that?

Youtube videos and comments, and Reddit threads.

10 hours ago, Sheryl said:

If it is actually the place where the "Nong Chan refugee camp" was (not to be confused with the nearby Thai village of Nong Chan from which it took its name, but which it was definitrly not licated in), it was entirely within Cambodia. I worked on the border in those camps. There was a large tank ditch built by the Thais along the border and the official Thsi government and Thai military position, publicly stated repeatedly over the years, was that anything to the east of that ditch (which this encampment was) was Cambodia and that thet the refugees there were in Cambodia, not in Thailand. The issue came up often as that was a lot of crime snd human rights abuses going on in those encampments and Aid agencies would request the Thai authoriyies to do something sbout, answer wad always that it wss not their problrm/outside their jurisdiction as it was Cambodia.

There were a few refugee camps that were inside Thailand (most notably Khao I Dang and Phanatnikhom), but majority -- including definitely thd "Nong Chan" camp -- were in Cambodia. The relief operation wss staged from Thsiland but relief workers etc crossed into Cambodia daily for it.

Thankyou for concisely outing those who govern Thailand.

All those who wondered why the need for Thailands disproportionate military build up over the years now have their answer.......it was nothing to do with "defence".

Expect to see more occupation of Cambodian territory and subsequent similar action across other borders.

10 minutes ago, Enoon said:

Thankyou for concisely outing those who govern Thailand.

All those who wondered why the need for Thailands disproportionate military build up over the years now have their answer.......it was nothing to do with "defence".

Expect to see more occupation of Cambodian territory and subsequent similar action across other borders.

No one has been "outed". The refugee camp was originally on Cambodian soil, but those who remained slowly crept over the border and extended the "village" to Thai territory, which is what Thailand is reclaiming.

Cambodia heard a farang sexy man was skinny dipping in his pool near the border and just wanted photos for remembrance 🤣.

Ok....which farang on this forum wants to fess up? 😉

On 12/30/2025 at 3:14 AM, webfact said:

Thailand may reconsider the release of captured Cambodian soldiers in response.

For reference:

Thailand has released 18 Cambodian soldiers who were captured in July.

Both governments confirmed the repatriation on Wednesday after a fresh ceasefire held for more than three days.

Cambodia’s Information Minister Neth Pheaktra said the soldiers arrived on Cambodian soil at around 10:00 am local time. (this morning)

“I can confirm that our 18 heroic soldiers have safely arrived on Cambodian soil.

https://thesun.my/news/asia/thailand-releases-18-cambodian-soldiers-after-ceasefire-holds/

Video clips on You Tube show the heroes welcome in Phnom Penh. A wonderful New Year present for their families and friends, however very sad for those Cambodian soldiers and civilians who were killed by the Thai armed forces.

We all know that the Royal Thai Army is not under the control of the Thai government. Is it possible that the Cambodian Army is equally out of control of their government?

1 hour ago, Maybole said:

We all know that the Royal Thai Army is not under the control of the Thai government. Is it possible that the Cambodian Army is equally out of control of their government?

For reference (Google)

The Royal Cambodian Army is controlled through both a formal government chain of command and the highly centralized, personalized influence of the ruling Cambodian People's Party (CPP) elite, especially former Prime Minister Hun Sen and his son, current Prime Minister Hun Manet. 

Formal Command Structure

• Supreme Commander-in-Chief: The King of Cambodia, Norodom Sihamoni, is the nominal and symbolic commander-in-chief of the Royal Cambodian Armed Forces

On 12/30/2025 at 8:48 AM, Woke to Sounds said:

Phake as Hades.

 

One curious side effect of this theatre is that I've noticed more Westerners are pausing their retirement move into both Thailand and Cambodia.

 

I suppose just coincidence.

Uncertainty!

On 12/31/2025 at 8:51 PM, Maybole said:

We all know that the Royal Thai Army is not under the control of the Thai government. Is it possible that the Cambodian Army is equally out of control of their government?

No, this is a big difference. Unlike Thailand where there are several different (and competing) power structures (e.g. the Military -- itself with different factions -- and the civilian government at various levels), in Cambodia it is quite unilateral.

The Hun Sen clique (Hun Sen, Hin Manet, other family members and close associates) control everything and no major decision is taken without them. That said, the Cambodian army is not very well trained and communication links are not always good so, major decisions aside, on the ground one may find more than the usual amount of ad libbed activities occurring.

Even in better trained and equipped militaries, it is not possible for every single action taken to be reviewed and ordered by the top, especially in the heat of chaotic battle. Frontline troops on all sides do things not necessarily ordered. This has been true of all wars since time immemorial.

Indeed, some of the things raising the most outrage in Cambodia at present (e.g. Thai soldiers stealing vehicles and belongings from Cambodian home is areas they have occupied, or simply trashing the homes) are almost certainly not official policy.

On 12/31/2025 at 11:34 AM, Myran said:

The refugee camp was originally on Cambodian soil, but those who remained slowly crept over the border and extended the "village" to Thai territory, which is what Thailand is reclaiming.

No, they have not extended anywhere. The village of Prey Chan (not to be confused with the Thai village of Nong Chan a few km away) is exactly where it has been for many years.

It is right up against the border, on the Cambodian side, between original boundary markers 42 - 47 as defined in the 1907 treaty (which is the last treaty signed between the 2 countries on border demarcation). I say "original boundary marker" as there are reports that the Thai military may have physically moved some boundary markers.

In recent years the Thais have stated that they do not recognize the 1907 treaty boundary demarcations, at least in some areas, and this is one of those areas. I am not clear, however, whether Thailand has every presented a clear alternative boundary line that they are willing to go on record as accepting - it seems to be rather a moving target.

The most objective statements one can make are:

• This village is in what is now a "disputed" area

• The residents are exclusively Khmer and the only administrative/governmental presence until now has been Cambodian.

• It falls within Cambodian territory (but just barely as it is right up against the boundary line) per the 1907 treaty.

• It is now militarily occupied by Thailand and the Cambodian residents who fled during the fighting are now prevented from returning to it.

Thailand's disagreement with the boundary line in this area is not new, been going on for about a decade I think, but definitely no movement or action by the villagers of Prey Chan (or the other "disputed" villages) triggered this year's armed conflict.

That is the 64,000 dollar question.

What did trigger this year's armed conflict?