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China Signals It Won’t Give an Inch to the U.S. in Latin America

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China intends to keep playing in the U.S. backyard, Latin America.

The Trump administration took veiled swipes at China in its national-security strategy with the vow to “restore American pre-eminence in the Western Hemisphere” and “deny non-Hemispheric competitors.”

Less than a week after the release of the U.S. strategy in December, Beijing issued a little-noticed policy paper on Latin America and the Caribbean that geopolitical analysts say foreshadows more U.S.-China jostling for regional influence.

“China has always stood in solidarity through thick and thin with the Global South, including Latin America and the Caribbean,” said the 6,700-word policy paper, China’s first on the region in almost a decade.

https://archive.ph/iiwa4

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    There is no question that the re-election of Trump is a wet dream for both Putin, Xi, and all despots around the world. Having somebody so fabulously incompetent, so spectacularly ignorant, and so una

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    Really? Is the plan is to impoverish those South American nations who depend so much on exports to China. Will the US be imposing some kind of blockade? Will it be bombing boats smuggling soy beans?

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    If you think that the US has the right to damage other countries trade relations with China against their will, the US will have a major problem.

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There is no question that the re-election of Trump is a wet dream for both Putin, Xi, and all despots around the world. Having somebody so fabulously incompetent, so spectacularly ignorant, and so unable to negotiate anything even resembling a good deal for the US, is definitely a huge assist to adversaries areas around the world.

He is certainly playing in

China's hands, making them more powerful, far more influential, and increasing the influence of BRICS dramatically. The goon is diminishing the U.S every day he wakes up, and the end result is not going to be pretty.

But even as an American, I can admit that diminishing US influence by the day, may end up being a good thing for the world in the long run.

Perhaps the days of American hubris are winding down thanks to Don the Destroyer.

11 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

China intends to keep playing in the U.S. backyard, Latin America.

The Trump administration took veiled swipes at China in its national-security strategy with the vow to “restore American pre-eminence in the Western Hemisphere” and “deny non-Hemispheric competitors.”

Less than a week after the release of the U.S. strategy in December, Beijing issued a little-noticed policy paper on Latin America and the Caribbean that geopolitical analysts say foreshadows more U.S.-China jostling for regional influence.

“China has always stood in solidarity through thick and thin with the Global South, including Latin America and the Caribbean,” said the 6,700-word policy paper, China’s first on the region in almost a decade.

https://archive.ph/iiwa4

This stated to change last night.

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7 minutes ago, TedG said:

This stated to change last night.

Really? Is the plan is to impoverish those South American nations who depend so much on exports to China. Will the US be imposing some kind of blockade? Will it be bombing boats smuggling soy beans?

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Really? Is the plan is to impoverish those South American nations who depend so much on exports to China. Will the US be imposing some kind of blockade? Will it be bombing boats smuggling soy beans?

your socialist buddy turned Venezuela from a rich country into a poor country. Maybe Venezuela has a chance to prosper.

China is not good for anyone. Bill Clinton giving China most favored nation for trading has not worked out for the West.

12 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

China intends to keep playing in the U.S. backyard, Latin America.

The Trump administration took veiled swipes at China in its national-security strategy with the vow to “restore American pre-eminence in the Western Hemisphere” and “deny non-Hemispheric competitors.”

Less than a week after the release of the U.S. strategy in December, Beijing issued a little-noticed policy paper on Latin America and the Caribbean that geopolitical analysts say foreshadows more U.S.-China jostling for regional influence.

“China has always stood in solidarity through thick and thin with the Global South, including Latin America and the Caribbean,” said the 6,700-word policy paper, China’s first on the region in almost a decade.

https://archive.ph/iiwa4yp

all in their to take over the world, if you think China's presence in South America is good for the US you have a major problem.

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4 minutes ago, TedG said:

your socialist buddy turned Venezuela from a rich country into a poor country. Maybe Venezuela has a chance to prosper.

China is not good for anyone. Bill Clinton giving China most favored nation for trading has not worked out for the West.

China is not good for anyone? All those natural resources that South American nations sell to China are bad for them? And how will the US improve that situation?

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3 minutes ago, flexomike said:

all in their to take over the world, if you think China's presence in South America is good for the US you have a major problem.

If you think that the US has the right to damage other countries trade relations with China against their will, the US will have a major problem.

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3 minutes ago, flexomike said:

all in their to take over the world, if you think China's presence in South America is good for the US you have a major problem.

Some of these poster have shut off their brain on any Trump topic. The CCP is awful and seeks world domination.

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2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

If you think that the US has the right to damage other countries trade relations with China against their will, the US will have a major problem.

China sucks.

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1 minute ago, TedG said:

Some of these poster have shut off their brain on any Trump topic. The CCP is awful and seeks world domination.

The CCP is awful in a lot of ways. It certainly is subsidizing its manufacturing sector through depressing the price of its currency and keeping interest rates low. On the other hand China is supplying the developing world with cheap solar panels that are allowing people in developing nations to have access to cheap electric power.

And what plan does the US have to counter the Chinese that won't massively damage the economies of South American nations? China is their largest trading partner.

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Thanks for your thoughtful contribution to the discussion.

You have nothing to offer but I hate Trump.

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Just now, TedG said:

You have nothing to offer but I hate Trump.

Since you have nothing in the way of facts or reasoning to offer to address the issue, you make it personal instead.

You've got nothing.

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3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

The CCP is awful in a lot of ways. It certainly is subsidizing its manufacturing sector through depressing the price of its currency and keeping interest rates low. On the other hand China is supplying the developing world with cheap solar panels that are allowing people in developing nations to have access to cheap electric power.

And what plan does the US have to counter the Chinese that won't massively damage the economies of South American nations? China is their largest trading partner.

Do you want the world depending on the CCP? The aftermath of making China a favored trading partner was the loss of six million jobs.

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1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Since you have nothing in the way of facts or reasoning to offer to address the issue, you make it personal instead.

You've got nothing.

You made it personal. So, slow your roll.

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19 minutes ago, TedG said:

You made it personal. So, slow your roll.

I di? I offered no speculation or assertion about your motivations or anything else about you personally.

Try to keep in mind what the moderators keep on repeating to apparently no avail: stick to the issues.

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33 minutes ago, TedG said:

Do you want the world depending on the CCP? The aftermath of making China a favored trading partner was the loss of six million jobs.

How do you propose to stop it? I assume the 6 million jobs you're referring to belonged to America. Whatever the implications are for China's expanding economic presence abroad, what's your plan for stopping it? The US hasn't exactly endeared itself to most of the rest of the world lately? You think that the US can go it alone on this, too?

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53 minutes ago, TedG said:

China sucks.

Empires sucks, and right now USA sucks big time!

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@TedG Baiting retorts removed. You got your point across, now please stop.

As an FYI to everyone: Don't make snarky replies to other members and then report them when they reply in kind. It is juvenile behavior. Please stop as it will get you a formal warning.
Please keep your comments fact based or opinion based. Don't bait or attack those with a differing viewpoint to your own.
Be mature adults and agree to disagree.
Thanks you!

12 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

as an American, I can admit that diminishing US influence by the day, may end up being a good thing for the world in the long run.

I 'm not an American but I don't see a reduction in American influence as a particularly good thing. Unless of course there was a better alternative.

A reduction in American influence would correspond to a similar reduction in military influence

A reduction of military influence would create a vacuum which would sooner or later be filled by one of several belligerent entities with a penchant for world domination

Its a bit like prison on a larger scale The "top dog" amongst the inmates might not be the most popular guy , but if he is removed , things soon descend into chaos, which only ends when a successor claims the position , and has demonstrated his authority.

All part of human nature,

America and its President may not be perfect or to everybody's taste but who would you like to replace them The Russians ? Or The Chinese ? in my opinion its a case of "better the devil you know" Not much point in considering entities like the UN or Nato or (god forbid) The EU for the position , some things just can't be solved by committees

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2 hours ago, flexomike said:

all in their to take over the world, if you think China's presence in South America is good for the US you have a major problem.

It’s certainly not as bad for South America as U.S. presence has been.

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2 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

The CCP is awful in a lot of ways. It certainly is subsidizing its manufacturing sector through depressing the price of its currency and keeping interest rates low. On the other hand China is supplying the developing world with cheap solar panels that are allowing people in developing nations to have access to cheap electric power.

And what plan does the US have to counter the Chinese that won't massively damage the economies of South American nations? China is their largest trading partner.

In your magical world of rainbows, unicorns and lollipops is there room for a reality check? China is responsible for some of the worst environmental destruction in the world. Yes it purchases raw materials and resources from all over. Unfortunately, the Chinese do not care about environmental standards and the environment. They do not care about labour standards or worker safety. Western countries who invest in African mines are held accountable and must follow strict environmental rules and safety regulations. The Chinese don't care. China is exporting coal fired generation plants to Africa. Responsible nations do not do that. All those solar panels won't offset the damage from the coal plants. Worse is that China promised to stop doing this. https://www.energyconnects.com/news/oil/2024/october/china-s-still-backing-overseas-coal-plants-after-ban-says-crea/

27 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

It’s certainly not as bad for South America as U.S. presence has been.

The US activity in South America over the past 25 years has been extremely positive for the region. That's a generation of people. The USA provided. billions of $$ in foreign aid to the region and the scientific technology that improved living conditions. Its investment in public sector infrastructure and institutions stabilized the region. The USA just kept Argentina from financial collapse. China's contribution has been negligible.

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7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

The US activity in South America over the past 25 years has been extremely positive for the region. That's a generation of people. The USA provided. billions of $$ in foreign aid to the region and the scientific technology that improved living conditions. Its investment in public sector infrastructure and institutions stabilized the region. The USA just kept Argentina from financial collapse. China's contribution has been negligible.

They also rig elections and install people pliable to their methods. I'm not just referring to Venezuela.

Painting them as the 'good guys' is purely disingenuous, otherwise you simply have no idea of the reality on the ground.

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3 hours ago, TedG said:

your socialist buddy turned Venezuela from a rich country into a poor country. Maybe Venezuela has a chance to prosper.

I don't understand why this comment got three down votes. It is an undeniable fact that Maduro and Chavismo have impoverished Venezuela. People were eating shoe leather to survive. Maduro was in every way possible a disaster.

2 minutes ago, John Drake said:

I don't understand why this comment got three down votes. It is an undeniable fact that Maduro and Chavismo have impoverished Venezuela. People were eating shoe leather to survive. Maduro was in every way possible a disaster.

That's usually because some powerful entities are working against them, to ensure that they fail, in so they can install their puppets.

6 minutes ago, John Drake said:

I don't understand why this comment got three down votes.

Could be because of the unnecessary flame.

China signals it won't give an inch to the US in latin america

Should have stopped at : China signals it won't give an inch

Because China did not do anything to help Venezuela against US aggression.

4 hours ago, Alan Zweibel said:

Really? Is the plan is to impoverish those South American nations who depend so much on exports to China. Will the US be imposing some kind of blockade? Will it be bombing boats smuggling soy beans?

One can only imagine how much fun little Petie is having, considering the progression from a fairly irrelevant occasional news host, to Sec Def. Kind of a wet dream for gutter guys like him and Don.

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