5 hours ago, wavodavo said:

I'm sure that China would love to buy all of Canada's maple syrup to sprinkle over their noodles and their hot pot. It would be a big hit.

Well fortunately they don't have to keep Canada going, as Canada has already found alternative buyers for a lot of their gas and oil, a lot of their very high quality timber, aluminum, steel, rare earth minerals, and so many other commodities that America had easy and cheap access to, due to their proximity.

Before the absolutely moronic nitwit came along and sabotaged all that. Don - Mr. let's play nice with despots and dictators and let's destroy incredibly valuable alliances with our allies.

13 hours ago, save the frogs said:

Maybe you're right.

Maybe he is driving the country into the ground.

There's too many complex issues going on.

I can't quite figure out what he's doing or why he's doing it.

I surrender.

That's a very good point and I appreciate it coming from you. Many of us can't quite figure out what he's doing, nor who is directing him. I seriously doubt that Trump is making all the decisions and he's very likely being controlled by that "so-called deep state", whatever their intentions are is anyone's guess, but there's no doubt that a tremendous amount of sabotage is going on and it seems to be willful and deliberate.

17 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

he's very likely being controlled by that "so-called deep state"

Some would label the WEF / Davos crowd to be at least part of "the deep state". They don't just meet, they make global policies, according to some.

And Trump just flipped them the finger.

Just watched Glenn Beck's take on the WEF.

He sides with Trump on flipping them the finger.

I recommend it if you have time.

20 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

but there's no doubt that a tremendous amount of sabotage is going on and it seems to be willful and deliberate.

One theory is EU may retaliate to Trump's tariffs and Greenland takeover by dumping trillions of US bonds?

12 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

One theory is EU may retaliate to Trump's tariffs and Greenland takeover by dumping trillions of US bonds?

That would hurt them themselves.

But I do know some private pensions institutions have last week sold off, quietly of course, by selling US Bonds.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Some would label the WEF / Davos crowd to be at least part of "the deep state". They don't just meet, they make global policies, according to some.

And Trump just flipped them the finger.

Just watched Glenn Beck's take on the WEF.

He sides with Trump on flipping them the finger.

I recommend it if you have time.

That opinion piece was (almost) as confused and incoherent as Trump's speech itself.

The bottom line is, why should it be a surprise that captains of industry and world leaders should wish to meet at a forum to discuss the events shaping our world?

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

One theory is EU may retaliate to Trump's tariffs and Greenland takeover by dumping trillions of US bonds?

I'm kind of hope so, even as a as an American I'd be willing to make some sacrifices to teach this Goomba lessons that he won't forget for a long time.

1 hour ago, stevenl said:

That would hurt them themselves.

But I do know some private pensions institutions have last week sold off, quietly of course, by selling US Bonds.

But there are so many things going on simultaneously, it's impossible to predict which way the wind will blow.

2 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

teach this Goomba lessons that he won't forget for a long time.

you hate him that much, huh?

yeah but it will trickle down to the average Joe.

29 minutes ago, RayC said:

The bottom line is, why should it be a surprise that captains of industry and world leaders should wish to meet at a forum to discuss the events shaping our world?

Because it's not exactly "a democratic system".

But neither do I believe that true democracy exists anyway.

Rich folks make the rules.

2 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

you hate him that much, huh?

yeah but it will trickle down to the average Joe.

His incredibly destructive policies are already trickling down to the average Joe and if you can't see that then I guess we're incapable of having a reasonable discussion here.

Tens of thousands of small businesses have gone under in the last 12 months due to his incredibly reckless policies.

1 hour ago, save the frogs said:

Because it's not exactly "a democratic system".

But neither do I believe that true democracy exists anyway.

Rich folks make the rules.

I agree but the idea that Trump is some sort of revolutionary figure 'flicking the finger' to the establishment/ deep state is imo laughable.

Power and wealth becomes ever more concentrated in a capitalist society as Trump is demonstrating.