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Pretti: Maybe Not So Peaceful And Innocent

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7 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

An Ice blooded murder, their trademark.

Blood on the ice used to be a hockey slogan...

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  • Still trying to discredit a murdered bloke, I see...........😒 Talk about low and scraping the barrel, just to protect Trump's Gestapo.....🙄 There seems to be something seriously wrong with you........

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    He's clearly an agitator and he took a gun and two high capacity magazines to agitate. He was involved with IceWatch and there's pretty good evidence he was in the massive and highly organised Signal

  • I'm a gun nutter, or I've been told. Having too many, 30+ at one time, whittled down to 16, for years, and didn't even hunt. Of course you can never have too many for home defense, along with 1000s of

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4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

The video is in the public domain and the picture of the gun and a clip allegedly removed from him have been posted on media were released by the relevant authorities.

Can you link this please. I've only seen him being disarmed of the pistol.

4 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Can you link this please. I've only seen him being disarmed of the pistol.

When they disarmed him, the clip is assumed to be still inside the gun. That's what we have ALL seen.

In the picture released by the authorities, the slide on the gun has been racked, the single clip removed and laid beside the racked gun. Again that's what we have ALL seen.

It's Noem and Bovino who introduced the "extra clips" scenario in their hot-button public statements (along with "massacre" and "assassination"), without giving any physical evidence. That's what NOBODY has seen.

There is a video of his dead body being searched and an ICE operative shouting, "Where's the <deleted> gun?!" Maybe that's when any extra clip(s) were found? Either way, another ICE operative responds with "We've got the gun" or " the gun is here" or something similar.

All in all, a well-managed crime scene with very high levels of professional care and attention being paid to the basic forensics.

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6 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

When they removed the gun, the clip is assumed to be still inside the gun

He had two extra fully loaded high capacity clips along with the one already loaded so lots of ammo to go and "peacefully" protest against ICE.

14 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

He had two extra fully loaded high capacity clips along with the one already loaded so lots of ammo to go and "peacefully" protest against ICE.

OK, you badgered me enough about guns and clips, so where is your photographic evidence of "two extra fully loaded high capacity clips"? I mean beyond what DHS or others have claimed he possessed.

Apart from wasting my time theorizing over the psyche or motivation of someone who was probably a card-carrying member of the NRA, and probably well-trained in the use of firearms, how else can can I help you today?

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11 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

someone who was probably a card-carrying member of the NRA

Are you actually saying a radical leftist was "probably a card-carrying member of the NRA"?

Just now, dinsdale said:

Are you actually saying a radical leftist was "probably a card-carrying member of the NRA"?

Are you actually saying Pretti was a "radical leftist"?

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1 minute ago, NanLaew said:

Are you actually saying Pretti was a "radical leftist"?

You are kidding I hope. Fair chance he was a PAID radical leftist and his death will not be bemoaned by those behind this organized and funded protest (not organic protest) but seen and used as good for the "cause".

33 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

You are kidding I hope. Fair chance he was a PAID radical leftist and his death will not be bemoaned by those behind this organized and funded protest (not organic protest) but seen and used as good for the "cause".

The same ridiculous conspiracy theory again! 😀

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30 minutes ago, candide said:

The same ridiculous conspiracy theory again! 😀

Right! He was just an ordinary concerned citizen protesting against ICE with his little sign and whistle on the sidewalk. Anyone and I mean anyone who believes this is completely and utterly deluded.

49 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Right! He was just an ordinary concerned citizen protesting against ICE with his little sign and whistle on the sidewalk. Anyone and I mean anyone who believes this is completely and utterly deluded.

As usual, you've got nothing! 😁

Posting your fake claim that he was a paid protester over and over doesn't make it true!

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2 minutes ago, candide said:

As usual, you've got nothing! 😁

Posting your fake claim that he was a paid protester over and over doesn't make it true!

Tell me. Do you think he was a peaceful protester which under the First Amendment is guaranteed in the right to assemble peacefully or an activist/agitator? Simple question.

Just now, dinsdale said:

Tell me. Do you think he was a peaceful protester which under the First Amendment is guaranteed in the right to assemble peacefully or an activist/agitator? Simple question.

Moving the goal post now? You baselessly claimed he was a paid protester. 😅

You do it in nearly each and every post about this subject, as a dedicated echo chamber member!

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7 minutes ago, candide said:

You baselessly claimed he was a paid protester.

"Fair chance he was a PAID radical leftist" is what I said. Being a radical leftist on the other hand is pretty evident paid or not.

1 minute ago, dinsdale said:

"Fair chance he was a PAID radical leftist" is what I said. Being a radical leftist on the other hand is pretty evident paid or not.

You still have nothing!

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Just now, candide said:

You still have nothing!

Are you saying he wasn't a radical leftist?

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Are you saying he wasn't a radical leftist?

I'm saying you have nothing to support your claim that there's a fair chance he was a paid protester.

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34 minutes ago, candide said:

I'm saying you have nothing to support your claim that there's a fair chance he was a paid protester.

Well it seems, and yes as of yet it seems, he was part of IceWatch and the highly organised Signals group. Sure I'm putting two and two together but as I said there's a fair chance he was a paid protester.

Interesting how you haven't responded to was he a radical leftist. Ive asked this question to a few posters on here but so far no answer. Would you like to answer. Do you think he was a radical leftist? Pretty simple yes or no answer.

Just now, dinsdale said:

You are kidding I hope. Fair chance he was a PAID radical leftist and his death will not be bemoaned by those behind this organized protest (not organic protest) but seen and used as good for the "cause".

Oh my. A "fair chance" you say?

There's a fair chance that Arsenal will win the EPL this season

There's a fair chance that the People's Party will top next weekend's polls in Thailand.

There's a fair chance that "fair chance" isn't a recognised legal determination of guilt or innocence in any court of law in the US or pretty much anywhere in the world that's decent.

42 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Do you think he was a radical leftist? Pretty simple yes or no answer.

No. He was just an American citizen who is probably more enlightened than either if us will ever be, and whose views, opinions and politics are different from both yours and mine. Now he's dead because of those differences. That shouldn't happen in... what do some on here like to call it?...the greatest country on the planet for almost 250 years

The difference is that you can't accept any differing opinion, whereas I can.

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4 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Oh my. A "fair chance" you say?

There's a fair chance that Arsenal will win the EPL this season

There's a fair chance that the People's Party will top next weekend's polls in Thailand.

There's a fair chance that "fair chance" isn't a recognised legal determination of guilt or innocence in any court of law in the US or pretty much anywhere in the world that's decent.

Point is someone is funding this. Are there paid protestors. What do you think? Does Pretti come across as a peaceful protestor or an agitator? Seems he was on the spot at least two times. Coincidence? Actually the 1st encounter where he spat at an ICE officer, kicked the tail light assembly off the federal vehicle and physically resisted while he had a gun on his his hip you can see him running to the spot and immediately start to slag off ICE. NOT peaceful assembly guaranteed under the First Amendment.

1 hour ago, dinsdale said:

Well it seems, and yes as of yet it seems, he was part of IceWatch and the highly organised Signals group. Sure I'm putting two and two together but as I said there's a fair chance he was a paid protester.

Interesting how you haven't responded to was he a radical leftist. Ive asked this question to a few posters on here but so far no answer. Would you like to answer. Do you think he was a radical leftist? Pretty simple yes or no answer.

Are IceWatch or the "highly organised Signals group" proscribed terrorists?

And for the record (again), no, I do not agree with any suggestion that he was a "radical leftist" let alone the domestic terrorist label that Noem quickly slapped on his still warm corpse.

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15 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Are IceWatch or the "highly organised Signals group" proscribed terrorists?

And for the record (again), no, I do not agree with any suggestion that he was a "radical leftist" let alone the domestic terrorist label that Noem quickly slapped on his still warm corpse.

Show me one of my posts where I've said terrorist. You can't. One term I haven't used is insurrectionist. This is more to the point. Stop using Google and MSM and go to YouTube and have a look at some things that in your mind just can't be true because you have been convinced ICE are the Gestapo and Trump is a dictator. Even on YT you might have to search a bit because the algorythm is left biased. Search for this. Cam Higby infiltrates Signal group and have a look. Try and use reason rather than emotion. What he has exposed is now actively being investigated. You can also search Neville Roy Singham and see what comes up.

2 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Well it seems, and yes as of yet it seems, he was part of IceWatch and the highly organised Signals group. Sure I'm putting two and two together but as I said there's a fair chance he was a paid protester.

Interesting how you haven't responded to was he a radical leftist. Ive asked this question to a few posters on here but so far no answer. Would you like to answer. Do you think he was a radical leftist? Pretty simple yes or no answer.

You still have nothing. Being part of IceWatch has never been an evidence of being a paid protester. You are making that up, too! 🤣

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4 minutes ago, candide said:

You still have nothing. Being part of IceWatch has never been an evidence of being a paid protester. You are making that up, too! 🤣

Why won't you answer the question. Peaceful protester or radical leftist agitator? You've seen the footage so what's your answer? Maybe you could also point out why he had the right to do what he was doing under First Amendment rights.

2 minutes ago, dinsdale said:

Why won't you answer the question. Peaceful protester or radical leftist agitator? You've seen the footage so what's your answer? Maybe you could also point out why he had the right to do what he was doing under First Amendment rights.

I don't have any information about Preti's pedigree. Have you?

3 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Well it seems, and yes as of yet it seems, he was part of IceWatch and the highly organised Signals group. Sure I'm putting two and two together but as I said there's a fair chance he was a paid protester.

Interesting how you haven't responded to was he a radical leftist. Ive asked this question to a few posters on here but so far no answer. Would you like to answer. Do you think he was a radical leftist? Pretty simple yes or no answer.

Reply 2.

You did not put two and two together, it's your cult Meister's claim. Echo chamber hypothesis supported!

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/fact-checking-trumps-claim-that-anti-ice-protesters-are-paid-agitators-and-insurrectionists

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4 minutes ago, candide said:

I don't have any information about Preti's pedigree. Have you?

Still not answering the question then. Peaceful protester or radical leftist agitator. From the videos now out there what do you think? This is a reasonable question. Can you bring yourself, as an adult, to give a reasonable answer?

5 hours ago, dinsdale said:

Point is someone is funding this. Are there paid protestors. What do you think? Does Pretti come across as a peaceful protestor or an agitator? Seems he was on the spot at least two times. Coincidence? Actually the 1st encounter where he spat at an ICE officer, kicked the tail light assembly off the federal vehicle and physically resisted while he had a gun on his his hip you can see him running to the spot and immediately start to slag off ICE. NOT peaceful assembly guaranteed under the First Amendment.

The moment he kicked the tail light he should have been arrested, would have saved his life. ICE just drove away. I do think there was something wrong with this guy and he was a time bomb on the edge of committing a serious criminal act, with that piece of his.

But when he was executed he was doing nothing illegal.

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