No it starts works a few km down number 7 Garmin is the same waiting for updates from both Tom Tom has far superior map layout layout. With no proper post coding in thailand it will always be abit iffy but on saying that I wouln't drive without it

I'd be interested in your definition of a 'far superior map layout' since the TomTom map does not have a major highway intersection in Pattaya as detailed in post #26. You seem to equate map quality with postal codes, I fail to make the connection. Either a map has the roads shown or it doesn't.

Of coure postcodes in europe if you know the door number will drop you at the door as regards to far superior mapping just one instance i refer to showing a dual carriageway as 2 roads,names actually on roads and every soi named plus much more destination info on screen brighter and clearer maps etc etc

No it starts works a few km down number 7 Garmin is the same waiting for updates from both Tom Tom has far superior map layout layout. With no proper post coding in thailand it will always be abit iffy but on saying that I wouln't drive without it

I'd be interested in your definition of a 'far superior map layout' since the TomTom map does not have a major highway intersection in Pattaya as detailed in post #26. You seem to equate map quality with postal codes, I fail to make the connection. Either a map has the roads shown or it doesn't.

Of coure postcodes in europe if you know the door number will drop you at the door as regards to far superior mapping just one instance i refer to showing a dual carriageway as 2 roads,names actually on roads and every soi named plus much more destination info on screen brighter and clearer maps etc etc

That is just a matter for an update and it is a very new road only open a few months and it does pick up at the last section built so i would say for thailand that is exceptionally good (we are not in the UK now if you noticed)

No it starts works a few km down number 7 Garmin is the same waiting for updates from both Tom Tom has far superior map layout layout. With no proper post coding in thailand it will always be abit iffy but on saying that I wouln't drive without it

I'd be interested in your definition of a 'far superior map layout' since the TomTom map does not have a major highway intersection in Pattaya as detailed in post #26. You seem to equate map quality with postal codes, I fail to make the connection. Either a map has the roads shown or it doesn't.

Of coure postcodes in europe if you know the door number will drop you at the door as regards to far superior mapping just one instance i refer to showing a dual carriageway as 2 roads,names actually on roads and every soi named plus much more destination info on screen brighter and clearer maps etc etc

That is just a matter for an update and it is a very new road only open a few months and it does pick up at the last section built so i would say for thailand that is exceptionally good (we are not in the UK now if you noticed)

Very new? Highway 7 to Pattaya has been open for over a year.

That is just a matter for an update and it is a very new road only open a few months and it does pick up at the last section built so i would say for thailand that is exceptionally good (we are not in the UK now if you noticed)

Very new? Highway 7 to Pattaya has been open for over a year.

That puts the TomTom map for Thailand at least a year out-of-date. Both the ESRI and Rotweiler maps are current in this regard.

I have a Nokia GPS enabled phone. Since I visit Jomtien frequently, I tried the Nokia map and found that map doesn't even know the correct soi numbers. Whoever compiled that map cannot even count to ten. It goes from soi 4 to soi 6 which makes Google maps at least a little better, At least Google knows that five comes after four. The Garmin S. E. Asia map is not much better than Google maps.

That is just a matter for an update and it is a very new road only open a few months and it does pick up at the last section built so i would say for thailand that is exceptionally good (we are not in the UK now if you noticed)

Very new? Highway 7 to Pattaya has been open for over a year.

That puts the TomTom map for Thailand at least a year out-of-date. Both the ESRI and Rotweiler maps are current in this regard.

That is just a matter for an update and it is a very new road only open a few months and it does pick up at the last section built so i would say for thailand that is exceptionally good (we are not in the UK now if you noticed)

Very new? Highway 7 to Pattaya has been open for over a year.

That puts the TomTom map for Thailand at least a year out-of-date. Both the ESRI and Rotweiler maps are current in this regard.

Gary we are talking about satalite navigation on Garmin and Tom Tom what world are you on Mars!

Tom Tom on thr iPhone4 works OK. Not great, but it can get you out of strife as one poster put it.

Garmin on the other hand is supposed to be better, and can put you in strife becuase you rely on it.

In Bangkok no satnav can match the understanding of various traffic rules, flows and best routes at different times of the day. If you are lost - it will help you out.

What I have learnt.

Satnav is a convenient confirmation of your wifes/girlfriends instructions after phone calls to 3 different friends !

By the way... There are ways to get Tom Tom on your Jailbroken iPhone4 (if you have one): Key Words >> Greenpois0n, cidia, appsync, hackulo.us, installous - its easy

Actually I'm in Thailand and NOT in the UK or Mars. I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost. Naturally all the maps are not perfect but after trying most of the available maps, I find the ESRI Thailand maps to be the best and resent people who don't know anything trying to offer expert advice when they have no idea what is best. You would be better informed to do some research and venture a more informed opinion.

Actually I'm in Thailand and NOT in the UK or Mars. I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost. Naturally all the maps are not perfect but after trying most of the available maps, I find the ESRI Thailand maps to be the best and resent people who don't know anything trying to offer expert advice when they have no idea what is best. You would be better informed to do some research and venture a more informed opinion.

agreed ESRI Thailand maps are excellent in book form and and on the internet to view an area as are google maps.but that wont help me when I am driving round Bangkok trying to find some soi in horrendous trafic. Sat nav in Thailand which ever one you use has a long way to go and is nothing ike sat nav in Europe so can we get back to the subjet please! This comment from the above says it all like i said we are in Thailand! "I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost" I rest my case your Honour

Actually I'm in Thailand and NOT in the UK or Mars. I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost. Naturally all the maps are not perfect but after trying most of the available maps, I find the ESRI Thailand maps to be the best and resent people who don't know anything trying to offer expert advice when they have no idea what is best. You would be better informed to do some research and venture a more informed opinion.

agreed ESRI Thailand maps are excellent in book form and and on the internet to view an area as are google maps.but that wont help me when I am driving round Bangkok trying to find some soi in horrendous trafic. Sat nav in Thailand which ever one you use has a long way to go and is nothing ike sat nav in Europe so can we get back to the subjet please! This comment from the above says it all like i said we are in Thailand! "I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost" I rest my case your Honour

If you're driving around Bangkok looking for some soi, you don't need a GPS. Paper maps will work for you. I always locate my destination, mark it, and allow the GPS to guide me there. I have been doing that for several years and have never had a problem. Usually I will try to come up with coordinates from someone who knows the location and also has a GPS or uses Google map to find the coordinates. Translation problems make looking for addresses and even soi names nearly impossible so you have to work around the limitations. I can usually find a point of interest that is already programmed in the GPS close to where I want to go.

Actually I'm in Thailand and NOT in the UK or Mars. I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost. Naturally all the maps are not perfect but after trying most of the available maps, I find the ESRI Thailand maps to be the best and resent people who don't know anything trying to offer expert advice when they have no idea what is best. You would be better informed to do some research and venture a more informed opinion.

agreed ESRI Thailand maps are excellent in book form and and on the internet to view an area as are google maps.but that wont help me when I am driving round Bangkok trying to find some soi in horrendous trafic. Sat nav in Thailand which ever one you use has a long way to go and is nothing ike sat nav in Europe so can we get back to the subjet please! This comment from the above says it all like i said we are in Thailand! "I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost" I rest my case your Honour

If you're driving around Bangkok looking for some soi, you don't need a GPS. Paper maps will work for you. I always locate my destination, mark it, and allow the GPS to guide me there. I have been doing that for several years and have never had a problem. Usually I will try to come up with coordinates from someone who knows the location and also has a GPS or uses Google map to find the coordinates. Translation problems make looking for addresses and even soi names nearly impossible so you have to work around the limitations. I can usually find a point of interest that is already programmed in the GPS close to where I want to go.

Actually I'm in Thailand and NOT in the UK or Mars. I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost. Naturally all the maps are not perfect but after trying most of the available maps, I find the ESRI Thailand maps to be the best and resent people who don't know anything trying to offer expert advice when they have no idea what is best. You would be better informed to do some research and venture a more informed opinion.

agreed ESRI Thailand maps are excellent in book form and and on the internet to view an area as are google maps.but that wont help me when I am driving round Bangkok trying to find some soi in horrendous trafic. Sat nav in Thailand which ever one you use has a long way to go and is nothing ike sat nav in Europe so can we get back to the subjet please! This comment from the above says it all like i said we are in Thailand! "I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost" I rest my case your Honour

If you're driving around Bangkok looking for some soi, you don't need a GPS. Paper maps will work for you. I always locate my destination, mark it, and allow the GPS to guide me there. I have been doing that for several years and have never had a problem. Usually I will try to come up with coordinates from someone who knows the location and also has a GPS or uses Google map to find the coordinates. Translation problems make looking for addresses and even soi names nearly impossible so you have to work around the limitations. I can usually find a point of interest that is already programmed in the GPS close to where I want to go.

You are very old fashioned Gary must take you ages to get anywhere! maybe you should get a guide dog I have used my equiptment to travel south to Hat Lek through the night and north to Kanchanaburi daytime recently with no problems why should i want to travel with a tonne of books/Maps or my comuter in my backpack when my 5" TomTom will Suffice hey ho off we go maybe I'll try it on my next elephant trip LOL informed opinion! it make me want to yawn. Bye

agreed ESRI Thailand maps are excellent in book form and and on the internet to view an area as are google maps.but that wont help me when I am driving round Bangkok trying to find some soi in horrendous trafic. Sat nav in Thailand which ever one you use has a long way to go and is nothing ike sat nav in Europe so can we get back to the subjet please! This comment from the above says it all like i said we are in Thailand! "I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost" I rest my case your Honour

If you're driving around Bangkok looking for some soi, you don't need a GPS. Paper maps will work for you. I always locate my destination, mark it, and allow the GPS to guide me there. I have been doing that for several years and have never had a problem. Usually I will try to come up with coordinates from someone who knows the location and also has a GPS or uses Google map to find the coordinates. Translation problems make looking for addresses and even soi names nearly impossible so you have to work around the limitations. I can usually find a point of interest that is already programmed in the GPS close to where I want to go.

You are very old fashioned Gary must take you ages to get anywhere! maybe you should get a guide dog I have used my equiptment to travel south to Hat Lek through the night and north to Kanchanaburi daytime recently with no problems why should i want to travel with a tonne of books/Maps or my comuter in my backpack when my 5" TomTom will Suffice hey ho off we go maybe I'll try it on my next elephant trip LOL informed opinion! it make me want to yawn. Bye

Surprise, surprise! TomTom can locate Hat Lek and Kanchanaburi, both cities, without difficulty. The question is can TomTom locate an obscure side street (Soi) or alley in Bangkok with equal ease and if so, how when even Thais are not sure of the English spelling.

agreed ESRI Thailand maps are excellent in book form and and on the internet to view an area as are google maps.but that wont help me when I am driving round Bangkok trying to find some soi in horrendous trafic. Sat nav in Thailand which ever one you use has a long way to go and is nothing ike sat nav in Europe so can we get back to the subjet please! This comment from the above says it all like i said we are in Thailand! "I simply expect the proper roads to be there and not to get lost" I rest my case your Honour

If you're driving around Bangkok looking for some soi, you don't need a GPS. Paper maps will work for you. I always locate my destination, mark it, and allow the GPS to guide me there. I have been doing that for several years and have never had a problem. Usually I will try to come up with coordinates from someone who knows the location and also has a GPS or uses Google map to find the coordinates. Translation problems make looking for addresses and even soi names nearly impossible so you have to work around the limitations. I can usually find a point of interest that is already programmed in the GPS close to where I want to go.

You are very old fashioned Gary must take you ages to get anywhere! maybe you should get a guide dog I have used my equiptment to travel south to Hat Lek through the night and north to Kanchanaburi daytime recently with no problems why should i want to travel with a tonne of books/Maps or my comuter in my backpack when my 5" TomTom will Suffice hey ho off we go maybe I'll try it on my next elephant trip LOL informed opinion! it make me want to yawn. Bye

Surprise, surprise! TomTom can locate Hat Lek and Kanchanaburi, both cities, without difficulty. The question is can TomTom locate an obscure side street (Soi) or alley in Bangkok with equal ease and if so, how when even Thais are not sure of the English spelling.

I have a TomTom GO XXL i have the Thailand map installed and it is briliant cost 35 uk pounds downloded here. it is also on an iphone app that I have also excellent product. Garmin is rubish compared to my TOMTOM and i know because i have both.

Does the Tom Tom map show highway 7 intersecting with highway 3 in mid Pattaya?

Yes, on iPhone 4 at any rate.

I had a tom tom whaen I was in Sydney and it was awesome......

When I moved here they didnt have the map so I sold it and bought a ifox over here.

The ifox is rubbish, the places in there are not correct and taked you to a few blocks away from the real place some times.....

That god I accidently cracked the screen last week when I dropped it, I will now go get the tomtom

ifox ?

ifox ?

More to the point, what map was your "ifox" using?

ifox website

http://www.ifoxonline.com

I so want to hack there website, but I wont

one example it does not know where Wongwian yai BTS station is, it took me about 3 km away from it and took me into this tiny soi next to the big round about.

In Sukhumvit next to buildings it would lost signal and sometimes take 20 minutes to get any signal back.

I paid 17,000 baht for it and its a piece of sheet.

ifox website

http://www.ifoxonline.com

I so want to hack there website, but I wont

one example it does not know where Wongwian yai BTS station is, it took me about 3 km away from it and took me into this tiny soi next to the big round about.

In Sukhumvit next to buildings it would lost signal and sometimes take 20 minutes to get any signal back.

I paid 17,000 baht for it and its a piece of sheet.

You could have gotten a Garmin GPS starting at 5900 baht including map that works in Bangkok, unless you're stuck under the Skytrain of coarse.

ifox website

http://www.ifoxonline.com

I so want to hack there website, but I wont

one example it does not know where Wongwian yai BTS station is, it took me about 3 km away from it and took me into this tiny soi next to the big round about.

In Sukhumvit next to buildings it would lost signal and sometimes take 20 minutes to get any signal back.

I paid 17,000 baht for it and its a piece of sheet.

You could have gotten a Garmin GPS starting at 5900 baht including map that works in Bangkok, unless you're stuck under the Skytrain of coarse.

I wonder if I can get Thailand maps for my TomTom GO 510??????????

Doesn't look like it. Arhhhhhhh!

No trouble locating a Thailand map for the GO 510 on TomTom website:

>Your selection

Thailand v8.70 Download 74.4 MB

• Detailed coverage: Thailand
• Roads covered: over 768 000 km / over 475 000 miles
• Points of Interest (POI's): 450 000 Points of Interest
• Delivery information: Our TomTom software will ensure the map will succesfully be downloaded to your device.
• Map data provider: TomTom

No trouble locating a Thailand map for the GO 510 on TomTom website:

>Your selection

Thailand v8.70 Download 74.4 MB

• Detailed coverage: Thailand
• Roads covered: over 768 000 km / over 475 000 miles
• Points of Interest (POI's): 450 000 Points of Interest
• Delivery information: Our TomTom software will ensure the map will succesfully be downloaded to your device.
• Map data provider: TomTom

Eh?

I'll try again, I'm using the UK website, the same one as you?

Cheers

No trouble locating a Thailand map for the GO 510 on TomTom website:

>Your selection

Thailand v8.70 Download 74.4 MB

• Detailed coverage: Thailand
• Roads covered: over 768 000 km / over 475 000 miles
• Points of Interest (POI's): 450 000 Points of Interest
• Delivery information: Our TomTom software will ensure the map will succesfully be downloaded to your device.
• Map data provider: TomTom

Eh?

I'll try again, I'm using the UK website, the same one as you?

Cheers

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Unbelievable! TomTom website > Maps > Buy A Map > Select your model (GO 510) > Select your map (Australia, New Zealand and Asia) > Thailand > Buy now > Proceed to checkout..

Unbelievable! TomTom website > Maps > Buy A Map > Select your model (GO 510) > Select your map (Australia, New Zealand and Asia) > Thailand > Buy now > Proceed to checkout..

...but make sure you give the >Select a model> etc, enough time to appear - I tried it and had to reload the page a few times before it did.

Unbelievable! TomTom website > Maps > Buy A Map > Select your model (GO 510) > Select your map (Australia, New Zealand and Asia) > Thailand > Buy now > Proceed to checkout..

...but make sure you give the >Select a model> etc, enough time to appear - I tried it and had to reload the page a few times before it did.

Cheers guys, I will try it again.

I'm in recovery after an operation and therefore my thinking is all to pot.

I do apologise for my lack of intelligence at this present time.

Thanks again.

NormanW

Unbelievable! TomTom website > Maps > Buy A Map > Select your model (GO 510) > Select your map (Australia, New Zealand and Asia) > Thailand > Buy now > Proceed to checkout..

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