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'Tuesday, 8pm EST': US President Trump postpones ultimatum to Iran

US President Donald Trump has extended his ultimatum to Iran by 24 hours, setting a new deadline of Tuesday at 8 p.m. Eastern Time, in a move that underscores escalating pressure on Tehran.

In comments to The Wall Street Journal, Trump reiterated his warning that failure to reach an agreement would trigger strikes on key infrastructure. “If they don’t do anything by Tuesday night, they won’t have any power plants left, and no bridge will be left standing,” he said, signaling potential attacks on strategic targets across Iran.

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news/international/americas/artc-tuesday-8-pm-eastern-time-us-president-trump-postpones-ultimatum-to-iran

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  • Alan Zweibel
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    So you think repeatedly making a threat and not fulfilling it is a way to increase psychological pressure? I suggest you study a treatise entitled "The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf"

  • Wingate
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    Goodness! Karoline Leavitt couldn't have spun Trump's evil insanity any better! By any measure---including the Dept of Defense in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022---going after a nati

  • Jeff the Chef
    Jeff the Chef

    Am I right in thinking Iran was having talks with all parties before this current wave of attacks on a sovereign country by the gruesome twosome, US/Israel?

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See you next Tuesday' is the hidden message here then🤔

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It's called psychological pressure, and;

It is also demonstrating an attempt to offer a way out for Iran. All it takes is Iran to say, ok, let's talk and the next step in escalation can be avoided. The USA is fulfilling the legal requirements to show that it made an effort to avoid escalation. Should Iran decline to consider the opportunity for a peaceful resolution, then the USA gets the green light to continue. As a self appointed international law expert, surely, you understand this principle. Trump is being given legal advice on how to proceed.

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So you think repeatedly making a threat and not fulfilling it is a way to increase psychological pressure? I suggest you study a treatise entitled "The Little Boy Who Cried Wolf"

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3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

It's called psychological pressure, and;

It is also demonstrating an attempt to offer a way out for Iran. All it takes is Iran to say, ok, let's talk and the next step in escalation can be avoided. The USA is fulfilling the legal requirements to show that it made an effort to avoid escalation. Should Iran decline to consider the opportunity for a peaceful resolution, then the USA gets the green light to continue. As a self appointed international law expert, surely, you understand this principle. Trump is being given legal advice on how to proceed.

Am I right in thinking Iran was having talks with all parties before this current wave of attacks on a sovereign country by the gruesome twosome, US/Israel?

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3 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Am I right in thinking Iran was having talks with all parties before this current wave of attacks on a sovereign country by the gruesome twosome, US/Israel?

I don't know. You got a link for that?

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3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I don't know. You got a link for that?

Reference this you mean?

How ignorance, misunderstanding and obfuscation ended Iran nuclear talks

Negotiators had reached agreement on key issues despite Trump team’s idiosyncratic approach. Two days later, war began.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/18/ignorance-misunderstanding-obfuscation-iran-nuclear-talks-trump

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2 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Reference this you mean?

How ignorance, misunderstanding and obfuscation ended Iran nuclear talks

Negotiators had reached agreement on key issues despite Trump team’s idiosyncratic approach. Two days later, war began.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/18/ignorance-misunderstanding-obfuscation-iran-nuclear-talks-trump

My mistake. I read "was" as "is".

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11 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

It's called psychological pressure, and;

It is also demonstrating an attempt to offer a way out for Iran. All it takes is Iran to say, ok, let's talk and the next step in escalation can be avoided. The USA is fulfilling the legal requirements to show that it made an effort to avoid escalation. Should Iran decline to consider the opportunity for a peaceful resolution, then the USA gets the green light to continue. As a self appointed international law expert, surely, you understand this principle. Trump is being given legal advice on how to proceed.

Goodness! Karoline Leavitt couldn't have spun Trump's evil insanity any better!

By any measure---including the Dept of Defense in response to Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022---going after a nation's infrastructure is a war crime. Will you say, if Trump follows through, that it's Iran's fault Trump committed a war crime and will be indicted by the ICC in the Hague? That would be a flimsy defense.

BTW, in his expletive-filled Tweet where Trump said he would "reign (sic) Hell down", he finished it by what is likely to be perceived as making fun of Islam. That is unlikely to bring GCC allies any closer to the US. It is also likely to encourage fanatics to attack Westerners. Iran could even use it to foment rebellion in Gulf monarchies against leadership seemingly okay with the US president both making fun of Islam and killing Moslems. How about an Arab Spring 2.0, with the monarchies of Saudi, Qatar and Kuwait falling? It is not entirely out of the question.

The Arab press is getting increasingly critical of the blind eye being afforded the US and Israel attacking Iran and Lebanon by GCC leaders. That criticism will resonate through Gulf societies. It would only take a single spark---like a fruit seller in Tunisia that was the start of the original Arab Spring---to make a bad situation even worse.

Trump is evil, when threatening to punish all 93,000,000 Iranians. That makes the US evil. That makes Americans evil, as we'll all be tarred by the same brush.

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48 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

It's called psychological pressure, and;

It is also demonstrating an attempt to offer a way out for Iran. All it takes is Iran to say, ok, let's talk and the next step in escalation can be avoided. The USA is fulfilling the legal requirements to show that it made an effort to avoid escalation. Should Iran decline to consider the opportunity for a peaceful resolution, then the USA gets the green light to continue. As a self appointed international law expert, surely, you understand this principle. Trump is being given legal advice on how to proceed.

There is no legal justification for this illegal U.S./Israeli war of aggression, there is no legal justification for the threatened attacks on Iranian civilian infrastructure.

Trump and his puppet master Netanyahu are out of control war criminals.

There is no ‘green lights for escalation and Netanyahu has control of the red light to stop this war.

Trump is not in control of how this war proceeds.

6 minutes ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There is no legal justification for this illegal U.S./Israeli war of aggression, there is no legal justification for the threatened attacks on Iranian civilian infrastructure.

Trump and his puppet master Netanyahu are out of control war criminals.

There is no ‘green lights for escalation and Netanyahu has control of the red light to stop this war.

Trump is not in control of how this war proceeds.

Iran funding freedom fighters throughout the Middle East gives the terrorists the right to fight against them .

45 minutes ago, Jeff the Chef said:

Reference this you mean?

How ignorance, misunderstanding and obfuscation ended Iran nuclear talks

Negotiators had reached agreement on key issues despite Trump team’s idiosyncratic approach. Two days later, war began.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/mar/18/ignorance-misunderstanding-obfuscation-iran-nuclear-talks-trump

there was no Trump team, the 2 guys that were involved, Laurel & Hardy, knew nothing about negotiating, they were there to create delays, if Trump had any intention of negotiating he wouldn't have send the "Russia Spy" Witkoff and his son in law, why din't he send VP and Rubio

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59 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

It's called psychological pressure, and;

It is also demonstrating an attempt to offer a way out for Iran. All it takes is Iran to say, ok, let's talk and the next step in escalation can be avoided. The USA is fulfilling the legal requirements to show that it made an effort to avoid escalation. Should Iran decline to consider the opportunity for a peaceful resolution, then the USA gets the green light to continue. As a self appointed international law expert, surely, you understand this principle. Trump is being given legal advice on how to proceed.

Are you now among those tasked with deciphering Trump’s ideas and interpreting the motives behind them?

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12 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Are you now among those tasked with deciphering Trump’s ideas and interpreting the motives behind them?

No matter how demonstrably insane Trump's words are, some people will always justify them by citing something equivalent to Trump is playing 4 dimensional chess.

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

No matter how demonstrably insane Trump's words are, some people will always justify them by citing something equivalent to Trump is playing 4 dimensional chess.

Yep, Trump has not started a war yet. Amazing how that used to be one of the slogans.

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1 hour ago, Patong2021 said:

It's called psychological pressure, and;

It is also demonstrating an attempt to offer a way out for Iran. All it takes is Iran to say, ok, let's talk and the next step in escalation can be avoided. The USA is fulfilling the legal requirements to show that it made an effort to avoid escalation. Should Iran decline to consider the opportunity for a peaceful resolution, then the USA gets the green light to continue. As a self appointed international law expert, surely, you understand this principle. Trump is being given legal advice on how to proceed.

The trouble is that madman has no couth nor understanding of how the political world really works. When he taunted them with that reference to praising Allah, that got their backs up in a most serious fashion. I saw a response from this latest insult (and I'm paraphrasing) but it went something along the lines of how Iran has been around for 2500 years, US only a few hundred. The stick didn't work with them, and because he's using schoolyard bully tactics, it never will, and it's WAY too late to even think about a carrot.

There is no graceful way out of this situation other than invoking the 25th amendment.

1 hour ago, Alan Zweibel said:

I don't know. You got a link for that?

They have been bombed twice while talking..I think they might have learned the lesson now.

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26 minutes ago, HappyExpat57 said:

The trouble is that madman has no couth nor understanding of how the political world really works. When he taunted them with that reference to praising Allah, that got their backs up in a most serious fashion. I saw a response from this latest insult (and I'm paraphrasing) but it went something along the lines of how Iran has been around for 2500 years, US only a few hundred. The stick didn't work with them, and because he's using schoolyard bully tactics, it never will, and it's WAY too late to even think about a carrot.

There is no graceful way out of this situation other than invoking the 25th amendment.

He is getting under their skin. It irks and upsets the Iranians who react viscerally and irrationally, just as his detractors on Asean Now do. It is very old school, typical of the 1980's and 1990's business environment. I worked with people from that era and the pattern is recognizable.

I am not saying it is appropriate or nice, but I recognize the pattern just as I believe many of the world's political leadership who have past experience in business do.

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1 minute ago, Patong2021 said:

He is getting under their skin. It irks and upsets the Iranians who react viscerally and irrationally, just as his detractors on Asean Now do. It is very old school, typical of the 1980's and 1990's business environment. I worked with people from that era and the pattern is recognizable.

I am not saying it is appropriate or nice, but I recognize the pattern just as I believe many of the world's political leadership who have past experience in business do.

So it was Trump playing them huh? Not the Iranians having successfully played Trump? That their mocking comments directed to Trump incited him into a rage we to say something stupid and counterproductive against the aims of his campaign?

6 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

He is getting under their skin. It irks and upsets the Iranians who react viscerally and irrationally, just as his detractors on Asean Now do. It is very old school, typical of the 1980's and 1990's business environment. I worked with people from that era and the pattern is recognizable.

I am not saying it is appropriate or nice, but I recognize the pattern just as I believe many of the world's political leadership who have past experience in business do.

Talking about irrationally behaviour, thats ironic, true irony there

Trump and his stab is consequent rationals and steady going

Cant produce better sitcom than what we experience now, tragedy sitcom live in social media with no filter

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1 minute ago, Hummin said:

Talking about irrationally, thats ironic, true irony there

4D Chess!

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1 hour ago, Hummin said:

Are you now among those tasked with deciphering Trump’s ideas and interpreting the motives behind them?

Nope. However, it is a recognizable pattern for people who;

-worked in US finance, real estate, investments in the 1980's, 1990's

- have worked with people from that era.

When I was a freshly minted graduate I worked in the USA and dealt with the wall street demons who had come up in the 1980's and 1990's and early 2000's. It is a recognizable pattern.

Do you have any experience in international finance, or have ever worked in that period or with people from that period? If not, it is understandable why you won't recognize the pattern. It is somewhat predictable, Make people uncomfortable and worried, like they will lose everything, and then offer a way out. They will be more accommodating. It's how Trump negotiates. He has nerves of carbon steel and is able to take it to the very limit. It offers high payoff, but also high risk of failure. It is high stress and not for the faint of heart. I don't believe it an appropriate strategy for government administration, but that's a different issue. My understanding of the pattern does not mean I agree with it. On the other hand, maybe he needs to "out lunatic" a lunatic regime.

3 minutes ago, Hummin said:

Talking about irrationally, thats ironic, true irony there

see explanation above.

1 hour ago, Chomper Higgot said:

There is no legal justification for this illegal U.S./Israeli war of aggression, there is no legal justification for the threatened attacks on Iranian civilian infrastructure.

Trump and his puppet master Netanyahu are out of control war criminals.

There is no ‘green lights for escalation and Netanyahu has control of the red light to stop this war.

Trump is not in control of how this war proceeds.

President Trump remains in control of how the intervention progresses.

You insist that this intervention is illegal. However, there is no adjudication that it is. For someone so insistent on correctness, do try to at least be honest. You believe it is illegal.

Israel can't continue its activities without the tacit support of the Arab world, and without a greenlight from the USA. Have a look at the Iranian propaganda. Israel is portrayed as the UAE and Saudi demon dog doing their bidding. There are some rather nasty caricatures in circulation.

I am willing to wait until later this week to see what the Arabs decide. If there is Arab participation, then you aint seen nothing yet. If there is no Arab participation, then this intervention will end relatively fast.

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3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Nope. However, it is a recognizable pattern for people who;

-worked in US finance, real estate, investments in the 1980's, 1990's

- have worked with people from that era.

When I was a freshly minted graduate I worked in the USA and dealt with the wall street demons who had come up in the 1980's and 1990's and early 2000's. It is a recognizable pattern.

Do you have any experience in international finance, or have ever worked in that period or with people from that period? If not, it is understandable why you won't recognize the pattern. It is somewhat predictable, Make people uncomfortable and worried, like they will lose everything, and then offer a way out. They will be more accommodating. It's how Trump negotiates. He has nerves of carbon steel and is able to take it to the very limit. It offers high payoff, but also high risk of failure. It is high stress and not for the faint of heart. I don't believe it an appropriate strategy for government administration, but that's a different issue. My understanding of the pattern does not mean I agree with it. On the other hand, maybe he needs to "out lunatic" a lunatic regime.

3 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

Nope. However, it is a recognizable pattern for people who;

-worked in US finance, real estate, investments in the 1980's, 1990's

- have worked with people from that era.

When I was a freshly minted graduate I worked in the USA and dealt with the wall street demons who had come up in the 1980's and 1990's and early 2000's. It is a recognizable pattern.

Do you have any experience in international finance, or have ever worked in that period or with people from that period? If not, it is understandable why you won't recognize the pattern. It is somewhat predictable, Make people uncomfortable and worried, like they will lose everything, and then offer a way out. They will be more accommodating. It's how Trump negotiates. He has nerves of carbon steel and is able to take it to the very limit. It offers high payoff, but also high risk of failure. It is high stress and not for the faint of heart. I don't believe it an appropriate strategy for government administration, but that's a different issue. My understanding of the pattern does not mean I agree with it. On the other hand, maybe he needs to "out lunatic" a lunatic regime.

If you're thinking of citing Trump's negotiating tactics as based on some sort of success, keep in mind that New York Banks ultimately refused new business with him because of his failures at negotiating. He drove one of the leading real estate businesses New York into failure.

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Trump treats markets, war, and diplomacy like the same game: create panic, raise the stakes, and let innocent lives and household finances absorb the risk. And yes, I know exactly how that works. He makes his friends richer while people like you and me pay the price.

What still amazes me is how many ordinary MAGA voters, already struggling on the lower end of the economic ladder, believed he would lift them up, only to watch him strip even more away while their kids may soon be sent off to yet another war.

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4 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

If you're thinking of citing Trump's negotiating tactics as based on some sort of success, keep in mind that New York Banks ultimately refused new business with him because of his failures at negotiating. He drove one of the leading real estate businesses New York into failure.

I am providing a disinterested neutral observation, neither endorsing, nor condemning. Put your bias aside and consider the pattern.

Bankruptcy is used as a financial tool. It is more frequent in some industries such as transportation and real estate. If you had any experience or knowledge of investment banking or real estate, you would understand this characteristic.

And as you just love relying on AI generated answers, why not ask

Is bankruptcy common in the real estate sector

You won't like the answer. 😄

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13 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

President Trump remains in control of how the intervention progresses.

You insist that this intervention is illegal. However, there is no adjudication that it is. For someone so insistent on correctness, do try to at least be honest. You believe it is illegal.

He had them attack a civilian bridge, then an hour later ordered another attack. This is specifically against the Geneva Convention as it targets first responders rendering aid. That is illegal, regardless of whether or not you believe it.

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13 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

However, it is a recognizable pattern

You could have stopped there.

That is precisely why it's not going to work.

The real problem, is that with all his bluff and bluster, he cannot allow himself to be seen to fail. So his actions will become even more crazy and irrational. Until someone stops him.

Unless they have some backroom deal going on, Iran is not going to back down. Trump desperately needs an out, but the Iranians aren't going to allow him to do so on his terms.

We'll see...

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7 minutes ago, Patong2021 said:

I am providing a disinterested neutral observation

No...you are not.

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