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Awful Quiet on the Iran Front

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6 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

A malignant narcissist, misogynist, cheating, racist, low vocabulary egomaniac, who possibly has ties to some real weirdos and his actions there could be worse than we think, who had help all along not only making his money but there in the white house.

...and yet here you are, arguing with everyone in support of him. He's the best of you?

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    You sound like a vindictive 5 years old in a schoolyard.. Or a Trump supporter.

  • I would say he is both. 🤣🤣

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42 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Everyone here knows you hate Trump with a passion. I also dislike him, but being an American, like you, we're supposed to support what the government does, and if it's negative, complain about it and hopefully vote the next time for someone who actually helps the common man and not just the rich.

What does this even mean? On the one hand "we're supposed to support what the government does" but on the other hand "and if it's negative, complain about it and hopefully vote the next time for someone who actually helps the common man and not just the rich."

So, on the one hand shout "Hooray!" but on the other shout "Boo!"?

5 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Sorry Scottie, I wasn't directing that hating US on you, but in general. I do understand why many feel the way they do, as even being an American and not political, I see some of his actions as suspicious, but I do think this conflict was necessary as Iran was getting away with literal murder for way too long, and taking away their military is but one way to help it's citizens, leaving the rest to them. Now that they fear losing money in oil and trade, maybe they'll back down and negotiate.

No one agrees with you. Mainly because your analysis is surface level only. You see only one side, what you are fed.

4 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

What does this even mean? On the one hand "we're supposed to support what the government does" but on the other hand "and if it's negative, complain about it and hopefully vote the next time for someone who actually helps the common man and not just the rich."

So, on the one hand shout "Hooray!" but on the other shout "Boo!"?

There's a word for that...bipolar.

I added some more words to make it a high value post.

4 minutes ago, nauseus said:

Bamboo blow pipe. Nice. Maybe she can front for the marines at the event?

Sounds better than a tube pipe. You are just jealous.

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

What does this even mean? On the one hand "we're supposed to support what the government does" but on the other hand "and if it's negative, complain about it and hopefully vote the next time for someone who actually helps the common man and not just the rich."

So, on the one hand shout "Hooray!" but on the other shout "Boo!"?

We're always supposed to support our leaders, as all leaders have made mistakes and done things that helped. Is there any country leaders who haven't been buffoons at times? People vote, hoping they'll be picking someone who helps them out, mostly the common man who isn't wealthy enough not to give a sh*t.

Most of the time, people end up complaining for what reason? You can't make everyone happy as everyone doesn't have the same wants and desires. Some are happy with tax breaks, and some are happy with free healthcare. Others want peace but aren't wanting wars to achieve that peace. Some want laws passed to stop abortions and some hate the idea. Look at any of Charlie Kirk's podcasts and see both sides and what people want. Impossible for everyone to be happy no matter what they have.

Supporting your leader means the same thing as supporting a partner that sometimes loses their minds temporarily. if they're damaged goods, they might never turn around, but most people have good and bad in them and you need to give them the benefit of the doubt, even if what they're doing seems suspicious, as it does here with Trump. You don't have to like him at all, but what else can you do besides support the position and hope for the best?

Some people, as is obvious here, are totally messed up, and never will change. Trump himself will never change, and has been that way all along as his dad was also a weirdo. They think they're always right, no matter what their actions show you, so all you do is call them out, and ignore. Trump won't be here forever, and all we can do is hope the damage done isn't that much.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

We're always supposed to support our leaders, as all leaders have made mistakes and done things that helped. Is there any country leaders who haven't been buffoons at times? People vote, hoping they'll be picking someone who helps them out, mostly the common man who isn't wealthy enough not to give a sh*t.

Most of the time, people end up complaining for what reason? You can't make everyone happy as everyone doesn't have the same wants and desires. Some are happy with tax breaks, and some are happy with free healthcare. Others want peace but aren't wanting wars to achieve that peace. Some want laws passed to stop abortions and some hate the idea. Look at any of Charlie Kirk's podcasts and see both sides and what people want. Impossible for everyone to be happy no matter what they have.

Supporting your leader means the same thing as supporting a partner that sometimes loses their minds temporarily. if they're damaged goods, they might never turn around, but most people have good and bad in them and you need to give them the benefit of the doubt, even if what they're doing seems suspicious, as it does here with Trump. You don't have to like him at all, but what else can you do besides support the position and hope for the best?

So, is it or isn't it okay to sharply criticize this President for waging war against Iran?

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9 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

No one agrees with you. Mainly because your analysis is surface level only. You see only one side, what you are fed.

Only an idiot assumes what others think, especially about others. Some here argue against my points, although the truth will eventually come out. You, again, aren't qualified to say anything about anyone here, as your type has only one agenda in mind, and it isn't being a decent human. I see all sides, then wait for the truth.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

We're always supposed to support our leaders, as all leaders have made mistakes and done things that helped. Is there any country leaders who haven't been buffoons at times? People vote, hoping they'll be picking someone who helps them out, mostly the common man who isn't wealthy enough not to give a sh*t.

Most of the time, people end up complaining for what reason? You can't make everyone happy as everyone doesn't have the same wants and desires. Some are happy with tax breaks, and some are happy with free healthcare. Others want peace but aren't wanting wars to achieve that peace. Some want laws passed to stop abortions and some hate the idea. Look at any of Charlie Kirk's podcasts and see both sides and what people want. Impossible for everyone to be happy no matter what they have.

Supporting your leader means the same thing as supporting a partner that sometimes loses their minds temporarily. if they're damaged goods, they might never turn around, but most people have good and bad in them and you need to give them the benefit of the doubt, even if what they're doing seems suspicious, as it does here with Trump. You don't have to like him at all, but what else can you do besides support the position and hope for the best?

You think your ranting here is helpful to him...or anyone? Why not leave people to express their opinions without attacking them and accusing them of hating America?

No, you made the choice to behave that way, in support of someone who threatened to wipe out a civilisation. Of course it was bluff and bluster, but pretty disgusting, eh?

You defending that by trying to blame Iran, makes you look bad.

All evil needs to flourish, is for good men to do nothing.

Don't turn a blind eye to evil simply because it is being committed by your country.

10 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

You sound like a vindictive 5 years old in a schoolyard.. Or a Trump supporter.

To ne honest, if we go on quotes alone, it is rather difficult to tell the difference.

17 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

...and yet here you are, arguing with everyone in support of him. He's the best of you?

Are you entering into a conversation with a madman again?

4 hours ago, jvs said:

Yes, on May 8, 2018, President Donald Trump officially withdrew the United States from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran nuclear deal. Trump described the 2015 multilateral agreement as "horrible" and "one-sided," subsequently reimposing heavy economic sanctions on Iran.

Yellowtail,please quit lying.

2 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

So, is it or isn't it okay to sharply criticize this President for waging war against Iran?

I think this war was a long time coming, and no one here knows all of the reasons why it started when it did, but something had to be done, and no one knows any other ways to stop terrorists than by force, destruction of it's military, and stopping it's capability of possible nuclear weapons, as in their hands the outcome would be disastrous. They don't think like normal people do, and if you get rid of that thinking, the possibility of better thinking is there, and Iran's citizens have more leverage now.

2 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Are you entering into a conversation with a madman again?

I'm contributing to the overall conversation...

4 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

You think your ranting here is helpful to him...or anyone? Why not leave people to express their opinions without attacking them and accusing them of hating America?

No, you made the choice to behave that way, in support of someone who threatened to wipe out a civilisation. Of course it was bluff and bluster, but pretty disgusting, eh?

You defending that by trying to blame Iran, makes you look bad.

All evil needs to flourish, is for good men to do nothing.

Don't turn a blind eye to evil simply because it is being committed by your country.

Still can't think of a better word than rant? Looks like you and trump have that same vocabulary weakness. You have a very poor comprehension level if you think I'm attacking people here, as their hate towards the US is from their own words. Trump isn't there to wipe pit a civilization, although I do see whay you would think that way, from the lack of comprehension. I'm not blaming Iran but it's terrorist regime, so try to keep up.

5 minutes ago, Mavideol said:
4 hours ago, jvs said:

Yes, on May 8, 2018, President Donald Trump officially withdrew the United States from the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), commonly known as the Iran nuclear deal. Trump described the 2015 multilateral agreement as "horrible" and "one-sided," subsequently reimposing heavy economic sanctions on Iran.

Are you unable to come up with your own lie, so you have to regurgitate someone else's?

4 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I think this war was a long time coming, and no one here knows all of the reasons why it started when it did, but something had to be done, and no one knows any other ways to stop terrorists than by force, destruction of it's military, and stopping it's capability of possible nuclear weapons, as in their hands the outcome would be disastrous. They don't think like normal people do, and if you get rid of that thinking, the possibility of better thinking is there, and Iran's citizens have more leverage now.

My question wasn't about whether or not the war is justifiable. Here is my question again:

So, is it or isn't it okay to sharply criticize this President for waging war against Iran?

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

I think this war was a long time coming, and no one here knows all of the reasons why it started when it did, but something had to be done, and no one knows any other ways to stop terrorists than by force, destruction of it's military, and stopping it's capability of possible nuclear weapons, as in their hands the outcome would be disastrous. They don't think like normal people do, and if you get rid of that thinking, the possibility of better thinking is there, and Iran's citizens have more leverage now.

Just more crazy hopium in my humble opinion.

Allow me to illustrate it this way. Imagine Iran decide to free the American people of Donald Trump to give the people a chance to rise up against his administration, would that be okay with you?

I mean there are ten of millions of Americans who abhor Donald Trump, where you talk about mere thousands of Iranians.

Can you not see how brainwashed, biased and poisonous you have become?

You don't know the tiniest thing about Iran. Everything you 'know' is from US media, most likely.

1 minute ago, Alan Zweibel said:

My question wasn't about whether or not the war is justifiable. Here is my question again:

So, is it or isn't it okay to sharply criticize this President for waging war against Iran?

It's okay to do whatever you want, as that's what free speech means.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It's okay to do whatever you want, as that's what free speech means.

So is strongly criticizing Trump for the war compatible with support?

21 minutes ago, IsmeUno said:

No one agrees with you. Mainly because your analysis is surface level only. You see only one side, what you are fed.

Again, you are arguing with someone you called a lunatic.

Please provide your in-depth analysis and we'll see if we can't flesh it out a bit, oh, that's right, all you have is name-calling.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

It's okay to do whatever you want, as that's what free speech means.

Is that why you tried to tell me to not bother to reply? 😊 Man you need to decide which way is up.

1 minute ago, IsmeUno said:

Just more crazy hopium in my humble opinion.

Allow me to illustrate it this way. Imagine Iran decide to free the American people of Donald Trump to give the people a chance to rise up against his administration, would that be okay with you?

I mean there are ten of millions of Americans who abhor Donald Trump, where you talk about mere thousands of Iranians.

Can you not see how brainwashed, biased and poisonous you have become?

You don't know the tiniest thing about Iran. Everything you 'know' is from US media, most likely.

You do realize EVERY reply you make has an assumption don't you? No wait, if you did, you wouldn't have anything to say on this forum. Four assumptions in this one reply, as per usual.

Let me say this one more time, and you might want to write it down. You know nothing about anyone else on earth unless they tell you, and then you always turn that around to suit your narrative. Now read what you wrote, at least a hundred times so it might sink in that hollow cavity, and go find another to pester. Endgame for you, as you aren't worth the time.

8 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Still can't think of a better word than rant? Looks like you and trump have that same vocabulary weakness. You have a very poor comprehension level if you think I'm attacking people here, as their hate towards the US is from their own words. Trump isn't there to wipe pit a civilization, although I do see whay you would think that way, from the lack of comprehension. I'm not blaming Iran but it's terrorist regime, so try to keep up.

I can use another term if you promise to not ever utilise assume again. U wanna go for it?

You commentary of the war and your grasp of geopolitics is unparalleled 😊

You like that? 😊

3 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

So is strongly criticizing Trump for the war compatible with support?

You can criticize some things and support others. Again, wait for this war to end and see the results on all sides, then you can see for yourself.

15 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

They don't think like normal people do, and if you get rid of that thinking, the possibility of better thinking is there

Please define 'normal people' and 'better thinking'.

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11 hours ago, Peter Crow said:

You sound like a vindictive 5 years old in a schoolyard.. Or a Trump supporter.

An America supporter. Your side lost.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

You can criticize some things and support others. Again, wait for this war to end and see the results on all sides, then you can see for yourself.

I think everyone was going to do that without your prompting. Meanwhile, should we all stay silent until then?

You are really making a good showing of yourself today.

1 minute ago, Yagoda said:

An America supporter. Your side lost.

Another mindless bot on repeat.

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23 minutes ago, Alan Zweibel said:

So, is it or isn't it okay to sharply criticize this President for waging war against Iran?

If you have a critisism based on reality

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