We're occasionally asked for money. We don't make loans. We may simply gift money if it's appropriate. However, most of our extended family can earn a living. The problems starts when these people fail to live within their means, in other words, they start spending more money then they earn in order to look like they have a higher status. I don't have much sympathy for someone driving a car or truck that cost 2x or 3x what I paid for my own, or who has a gambling problem, or drinking problem, or a status problem. The inability to budget isn't our problem.

15 hours ago, PhilipHabib said:

or don't marry into the uneducated aboriginal class

PhilipHabib is feeling rather racist and ethnically superior today it seems?

42 minutes ago, connda said:

PhilipHabib is feeling rather racist and ethnically superior today it seems?

Get off your high horse.

He's telling it the way he sees it - and the way a whole helluva lot of other people see it.

3 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

Married for 20 years, wife has a very extensive, very poor rural family, 13 maternal aunts and uncles............the wife has never asked for a single satang, nor has anyone in her family..........but to be fair, they know I'm from Yorkshire.

It could be worse for your wife and her family - if you were from Scotland.

15 minutes ago, MisterTee said:

It could be worse for your wife and her family - if you were from Scotland.

True....I would have borrowed a significant amount by now......555

The best way to avoid this problem is to marry a woman from a family that has some financial stability. Unfortunately a lot of the women that are easily available and motivated to marry a foreigner are the ones whose families are the most desperate. A man has to be able to set some limits, and he has to be able to say No! Absolutely not!

If the demands are unreasonable and incessant, there is no worry about alienating the woman, as you shouldn't be with her in the first place, and her bad attitude may just give you a good reason to move on and find a partner that affords you a much better quality of life.

44 minutes ago, MisterTee said:

It could be worse for your wife and her family - if you were from Scotland.

...or Golders Green.

1 hour ago, connda said:

PhilipHabib is feeling rather racist and ethnically superior today it seems?

also detect socio-economic superiority

Lost me at "my private survey"........

Go back to the pub & have a few more.

Do not take your phone with you to post more jibber-jobber.🙃🙃

9 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Finding one here then moving back to the west without a trial period might have you end up with that gold digger

Anybody who hitches up to any woman without sussing her out first is an idiot simple as that

17 hours ago, PhilipHabib said:

or don't marry into the uneducated aboriginal class

2 hours ago, connda said:

PhilipHabib is feeling rather racist and ethnically superior today it seems?

1 hour ago, VillageIdiot said:

Get off your high horse.

He's telling it the way he sees it - and the way a whole helluva lot of other people see it.

There are good and bad people in all socio-economic groups, not all women lacking a basic education are "bad" and not all those from more privileged backgrounds are good natured. So the way he and others "see things" is incorrect and irrelevant

2 hours ago, connda said:

PhilipHabib is feeling rather racist and ethnically superior today it seems?

I wonder how many girls have knocked him back on the same basis.......555

36 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Probably better than losing standing to the parents of a Serbian refugee!

5 hours ago, connda said:

About as bad as losing status to a semi-literate farang. 🙄

Well, we sure know the reason why those two are triggered 😄 🤣

12 hours ago, Priorexpat said:

Lost me at the first sentence,

"Thanks to my Thai wife, I am well informed about the "well being" of other Thai wifes in my home town in Europe."

How many of these women live in your European hometown?

In every European hometown they are a stark minority. But thanks to mobile phones, there is a "information network" among Thai's in every foreign country that is simply amazing. "Secrets" last about 24 hours. Somebody alway talks.

17 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

A 300 baht shirt is often no better than a 50 baht shirt. If you give a woman 3000 baht and she spends it in 48 hours she is a fool. If it lasts at least 5 days she is sensible. You can tell a good one from a bad one with this simple test.

Quite possibly the most idiotic post I have read on this forum.

10 hours ago, connda said:

PhilipHabib is feeling rather racist and ethnically superior today it seems?

Facts are hurtful often at times but we see you all the time.

7 hours ago, Keeps said:

Quite possibly the most idiotic post I have read on this forum.

What would you know about anything?

15 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Anybody who hitches up to any woman without sussing her out first is an idiot simple as that

Correct. That money test will sort most out.

6 hours ago, PhilipHabib said:

Facts are hurtful often at times but we see you all the time.

Nothing stings like discovering your "partner" is more professionally motivated ripping you off than a fortune 500 execs.

16 hours ago, spidermike007 said:

The best way to avoid this problem is to marry a woman from a family that has some financial stability. Unfortunately a lot of the women that are easily available and motivated to marry a foreigner are the ones whose families are the most desperate. A man has to be able to set some limits, and he has to be able to say No! Absolutely not!

If the demands are unreasonable and incessant, there is no worry about alienating the woman, as you shouldn't be with her in the first place, and her bad attitude may just give you a good reason to move on and find a partner that affords you a much better quality of life.

Western women rip guys off more. They have more money. A poor Thai woman might rip you off but some respect money. How a woman respects herself reflects how they respect money. A lot of dopey farangs date ex bargirls or women who talk too much - those two indicate a lot.

run Forest run🤪

On 4/19/2026 at 9:12 PM, swissie said:

Why is it so hard for Thai wifes living abroad to explain to the Thai family, that most people must work hard for their money in Europe and money does not grow on trees?

Because their relatives don't want to hear it, and it makes no difference to them.

From someone who has been married to a Thai for more than 30 years, You just have to learn to handle it like a bank manager.

22 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

Married for 20 years, wife has a very extensive, very poor rural family, 13 maternal aunts and uncles............the wife has never asked for a single satang, nor has anyone in her family..........but to be fair, they know I'm from YorS

Sounds like you are from Scotland ....Jock.

23 hours ago, MIke B Bad said:

Married for 20 years, wife has a very extensive, very poor rural family, 13 maternal aunts and uncles............the wife has never asked for a single satang, nor has anyone in her family..........but to be fair, they know I'm from Yorkshire.

Maybe that is why my Thai family never asks for money. They think I'm from Yorkshire.

19 hours ago, Bday Prang said:

Anybody who hitches up to any woman without sussing her out first is an idiot simple as that

I agree with that, but many men come here with such severe levels of emotional vulnerability having been abused to no end in the West by women that are completely unreasonable and ridiculously demanding. So they come here and they find a woman who's actually comfortable manifesting the dignity within femininity and they lose their minds.

Also many men of a considerably less discriminatory nature meet women online, have absolutely no idea what they're dealing with, because they've never spent time together, and then they come here and immediately start engaging in a relationship when in reality they should just be having a cup of coffee to determine whether or not there's any chemistry.

Fools and their money what can you say? The only way to avoid this pitfall is to take your time, take a lot of time, a year or two perhaps, and when the demands start coming push back, learn to say no, and engage at a reasonable pace.

Many women are always trying to push the timetable as it's to their advantage, and it's incumbent upon us to push back.

18 minutes ago, spidermike007 said:

I agree with that, but many men come here with such severe levels of emotional vulnerability having been abused to no end in the West by women that are completely unreasonable and ridiculously demanding. So they come here and they find a woman who's actually comfortable manifesting the dignity within femininity and they lose their minds.

Also many men of a considerably less discriminatory nature meet women online, have absolutely no idea what they're dealing with, because they've never spent time together, and then they come here and immediately start engaging in a relationship when in reality they should just be having a cup of coffee to determine whether or not there's any chemistry.

Fools and their money what can you say? The only way to avoid this pitfall is to take your time, take a lot of time, a year or two perhaps, and when the demands start coming push back, learn to say no, and engage at a reasonable pace.

Many women are always trying to push the timetable as it's to their advantage, and it's incumbent upon us to push back.

While we can't agree on politics, many other stuff (like this) we can agree on.

But I was very lucky, living togeter after a week, married after the second week (how foolish was that), now 16 years on (and one son now 14) I'm still happy with her.

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On 4/19/2026 at 9:12 PM, swissie said:

It seems that Thai wifes can not resist the never ending financial demands

Another thing they can't resist is adultery. My God do married Thai women in Western countries get around. I knew many back home and not a single one was faithful once she found out about divorce laws from the other women at the temple. So many negative things come out of 'the temple' that most of the Thai women I knew stopped going.

If a girl behave like this she never was suitable or decided to really start a half western and half thai life, which you do, if you start such relationships or marriages. That is the root cause of the problem, nothing else. Secondly, this is not a Thai culture thing, it is a Thai culture poor farmer / low socio economic class behavior thing, which in fact is a lower percentage in western countries, but the exact same type of behavior, too.

Long story short; the girlfriend or wife is the one needing to own it up in that situation. I never had this issue even we might help or donate money when the more rare things happen such as a late grandmother passing away and helping out as a family in a share for the funeral, as if that would be different anywhere. There is also a difference between then actually helping out on real funeral costs or the widow to move on costs, or if it is just extra booze and gogo dancers for that funeral or wedding instead.

Gambling should not even be a subject, if people refuse to end that instantly, you have no option but to cut them lose. Same for addicts. This again has nothing to do with the nationality of the partner or the culture.

Sure Thais specific have their culture interconnected to the root causes and generic problems but that doesn't change the measures one should take in those situations. It's almost always the guys who took girls out of bars and sex areas that have these problems too, which then makes it logical to confirm what i written above with lowest socio economic families. That's globally the same everywhere.

Last but not least in most cases where this happens, the girlfriend or wife actually never made the husband/boyfriend a priority. That means one was always in a transactional relationship to begin with, which one can end too. It's not love. Pay up or leave, simple.

Also bringing a transactional girlfriend/wife to the west, is the most stupid mistake one can make, they now have a huge access pool, they can replace you in no time with someone providing equal or better due to them being the rare exotic bird there. A relationship that could last for life can end in europe just due to that, even in both countries they would be transactional as foundation. It's like almost forcing their hand to take that route. It's like reversing roles in terms of what ones position is as a foreigner in Thailand with money.

I recently was reading and watching some content about this stuff and how expats are like or the not nice ones whatever, i thought it was the entire video about SE asia and Thailand, as of the exact same issues, but this was in Paraguay. Its all the same everywhere.

27 minutes ago, bunnydrops said:

Maybe that is why my Thai family never asks for money. They think I'm from Yorkshire.

My friend from Yorkshire has the region's genetic defect of being born with short arms and being sold pants with deep pockets. One time I heard a muffled screaming sound and looked up to see him with his hand in his wallet. The regent on the banknote was being held so tight that he screamed for release.