2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

That wasn't about me.

Why are you lecturing me?

1 minute ago, Rockyroad said:

Why are you lecturing me?

Just pointing out what's right. You look down on western women like they're all the same, and praise locals like they're all nice. It's all individual.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

Just pointing out what's right. You look down on western women like they're all the same, and praise locals like they're all nice. It's all individual.

Most western women are big, butch things. Not my cup of tea.

3 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Most western women are big, butch things. Not my cup of tea.

Most are actually average looking to excellent. Butch isn't how you describe most western women, as that's a lifestyle for few. Many are big, but the same thing can be said for everywhere, and here more each year. Most men are big also. That's the way things are all over the world.

3 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Most are actually average looking to excellent. Butch isn't how you describe most western women, as that's a lifestyle for few. Many are big, but the same thing can be said for everywhere, and here more each year. Most men are big also. That's the way things are all over the world.

Sorry for having an opinion.

1 hour ago, Rockyroad said:

So you date old women?

I am happily married 26 years to an Isaan Thai women.

19 minutes ago, 0ffshore360 said:

I am happily married 26 years to an Isaan Thai women.

Good for you

7 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

Women are good under 45yo. After their bodies breakdown.

What about men? If your dik don't work then no wonder all those village ladies have so many brothers.

Not sure if this is of general interest. When I married my Thai wife in 2002, during marriage festivities, with the help of an interpreter, we declared to the congregation the following: "We will financially supprt the wifes children (education) and very close family members (medical emergencies), other financial requests will remain unanswered".

Needless to say, that the "family" left in somewhat of a somber mood.

Fast foreward: We financed 2 daughters a stellar career in banking plus some minor medical stuff over the years.

No other financial "hokus pokus" requests ever reached us.

Conclusion: Establish certain (unpopular) rules at the very beginning with the agreement of your wife as a pre-requisite. If Thai wife should not agree with this concept in the first place, it might be advisable to re-think any matrimonial plans.

It worked for me (us)-

2 minutes ago, swissie said:

Not sure if this is of general interest. When I married my Thai wife in 2002, during marriage festivities, with the help of an interpreter, we declared to the congregation the following: "We will financially supprt the wifes children (education) and very close family members (medical emergencies), other financial requests will remain unanswered".

How utterly classless, well done. How embarrassing, really. #1 that you actually did that (if it is true). #2 that for some reason you felt the need to do it - you obviously have no trust. Is she a bar girl? #3 that you humiliated her in front of her family - on her wedding day!

You talk of your wife as if she is a business arrangement, and perhaps she is. Many are.

What a class act you are.

Imagine going to a wedding anywhere in the world where that speech was made. For that reason I think it is nonsense and you think you are showing off at how "astute" you are. When it reality you have just demonstrated what a pathetic insecure personality you have, and what an odd opinion you have of your wife.

It's just sad, and frankly pathetic. And almost certainly untrue (which makes it kind of sadder).

On 4/19/2026 at 11:31 PM, josephbloggs said:

All my friends who married girls of an appropriate age and that didn't come from a bar have settled here or in Europe and don't have these issues - none of them.

Like your friends share all the details of their personal and private relationships and financial affairs with you?

Pull the other one.

3 minutes ago, NanLaew said:

Like your friends share all the details of their personal and private relationships and financial affairs with you?

We share a lot.

But come on, marry someone of a similar age and similar social standing and it stands to reason they're not asking you for money for a sick buffalo, to help their "brother", to pay for a motorbike.

It's not that hard to understand really.

Educated and financially independent Thais do exist, and they are not attracted to overweight 75 year old farangs wearing Singha wifebeaters. They are the ones being milked, and for good reason. But hey, if they go in with their eyes open and it works for them then go for it, just don't assume all Thai women and all relationships are the same.

23 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

How utterly classless, well done. How embarrassing, really. #1 that you actually did that (if it is true). #2 that for some reason you felt the need to do it - you obviously have no trust. Is she a bar girl? #3 that you humiliated her in front of her family - on her wedding day!

You talk of your wife as if she is a business arrangement, and perhaps she is. Many are.

What a class act you are.

Imagine going to a wedding anywhere in the world where that speech was made. For that reason I think it is nonsense and you think you are showing off at how "astute" you are. When it reality you have just demonstrated what a pathetic insecure personality you have, and what an odd opinion you have of your wife.

It's just sad, and frankly pathetic. And almost certainly untrue (which makes it kind of sadder).

Sorry to tell you: It worked for me and my wife since 2002. As opposed to 10 thousands of Farangs that have been financially milked dry by the "Thai- Family". I stand by my comment. I strongly recommend my former proceedings to anyone harboring matrimonial thoughts.

PS: Have you been living in Thailand for any lenght of time? I doubt it. Otherwise you would not come up with Victorian Moral Standarts trying to apply them to modern day Thai circumstances.

9 minutes ago, swissie said:

Sorry to tell you: It worked for me and my wife since 2002. As opposed to 10 thousands of Farangs that have been financially milked dry by the "Thai- Family". I stand by my comment. I strongly recommend my former proceedings to anyone harboring matrimonial thoughts.

PS: Have you been living in Thailand for any lenght of time? I doubt it. Otherwise you would not come up with Victorian Moral Standarts trying to apply them to modern day Thai circumstances.

Here for 30 years, married for 20, thanks.

55 minutes ago, josephbloggs said:

Here for 30 years, married for 20, thanks.

Respect and congratulations. How much did that cost you over the years, without setting certain "limits" as I and my wife did over 20 years ago?

No offence, just curious.

5 hours ago, Celsius said:

What about men? If your dik don't work then no wonder all those village ladies have so many brothers.

Indicates low potassium. Coconut water fixes that.

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

We share a lot.

But come on, marry someone of a similar age and similar social standing and it stands to reason they're not asking you for money for a sick buffalo, to help their "brother", to pay for a motorbike.

It's not that hard to understand really.

Educated and financially independent Thais do exist, and they are not attracted to overweight 75 year old farangs wearing Singha wifebeaters. They are the ones being milked, and for good reason. But hey, if they go in with their eyes open and it works for them then go for it, just don't assume all Thai women and all relationships are the same.

Not everyone is perfect like you.

3 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

How utterly classless, well done. How embarrassing, really. #1 that you actually did that (if it is true). #2 that for some reason you felt the need to do it - you obviously have no trust. Is she a bar girl? #3 that you humiliated her in front of her family - on her wedding day!

You talk of your wife as if she is a business arrangement, and perhaps she is. Many are.

What a class act you are.

Imagine going to a wedding anywhere in the world where that speech was made. For that reason I think it is nonsense and you think you are showing off at how "astute" you are. When it reality you have just demonstrated what a pathetic insecure personality you have, and what an odd opinion you have of your wife.

It's just sad, and frankly pathetic. And almost certainly untrue (which makes it kind of sadder).

Sounds like a funny speech. Weddings are a scam anyway.

2 hours ago, josephbloggs said:

Here for 30 years, married for 20, thanks.

So hookers for 10 then got married.

12 hours ago, BritManToo said:

If I give a woman 3000bht, its hers and it makes no difference to me what she does with it, or how long she hangs on to it.

Lots of control freaks on this forum.

But you can't afford to leave Thailand. That woman has cost you your freedom. Buying 2nd hand furniture and living a limited life. If you don't control your money she will.

10 hours ago, fredwiggy said:

Just pointing out what's right. You look down on western women like they're all the same, and praise locals like they're all nice. It's all individual.

I can find 10 nice Thai women in 1 day. Take 5 years to do that with western women.

Although I know many non-Thai men who were sucked dry by their Thai wives and family, I have had no such experiences. My first Thai wife never sent money to her family and my second wife only gives her own money to support her 86-year old mother. I met my first Thai wife in a book shop in Korea and my second wife was a public servant (high school teacher) for 35 years before she retired. I don't smoke or drink and I've never been to a bar. The men I'm referring to met their wives under dubious circumstances in a bar or brothel of some sorts. One of these men, in particular, went to Thailand every 4 or 5 months for a 'holiday'. When he came back, he'd show me dozens of pictures of naked Thai women in compromising poses on his hotel room bed. He'd always tell me that they said that they loved him. Sure... He'd then ask me which one he should marry. I always told him to grow up - but he never did. Last time I saw him (20 years ago), he was in his early fifties in Bangkok. He wanted my wife to negotiate with a Thai father who had offered his underage daughter to him for marriage. I told my then wife that this interaction was sick and that I wanted no part in it. I told my 'friend' again to grow up. He must have been offended because that's the last time I saw him. Most men who've been sucked dry that I know of have low IQ. They think with their extremities and think that they score big if a pretty girl half his age professes 'love'. My Thai wife is as old as me, she's not pretty anymore but she's honest, has integrity and is highly intelligent. We love and respect each other. I can't say that for many of the women who sucked men dry. My experience is that about 90% of Thai-farang marriages fail. Money and adultery being the main reasons.

7 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

I can find 10 nice Thai women in 1 day. Take 5 years to do that with western women.

Anyone can find 10 nice women in a day anywhere. What's underneath those looks is a lot more important than the outside, unless you're only there to use If three likes you, you're lucky. If one out of those three is normal, you're lucky. I've dated nice western women all my life, and the majority were decent women. Maybe not a good match for the future, but still decent.

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Anyone can find 10 nice women in a day anywhere. What's underneath those looks is a lot more important than the outside, unless you're only there to use If three likes you, you're lucky. If one out of those three is normal, you're lucky. I've dated nice western women all my life, and the majority were decent women. Maybe not a good match for the future, but still decent.

These women were so nice you flew to Thailand to get away from them.

9 minutes ago, ZigM said:

Although I know many non-Thai men who were sucked dry by their Thai wives and family, I have had no such experiences. My first Thai wife never sent money to her family and my second wife only gives her own money to support her 86-year old mother. I met my first Thai wife in a book shop in Korea and my second wife was a public servant (high school teacher) for 35 years before she retired. I don't smoke or drink and I've never been to a bar. The men I'm referring to met their wives under dubious circumstances in a bar or brothel of some sorts. One of these men, in particular, went to Thailand every 4 or 5 months for a 'holiday'. When he came back, he'd show me dozens of pictures of naked Thai women in compromising poses on his hotel room bed. He'd always tell me that they said that they loved him. Sure... He'd then ask me which one he should marry. I always told him to grow up - but he never did. Last time I saw him (20 years ago), he was in his early fifties in Bangkok. He wanted my wife to negotiate with a Thai father who had offered his underage daughter to him for marriage. I told my then wife that this interaction was sick and that I wanted no part in it. I told my 'friend' again to grow up. He must have been offended because that's the last time I saw him. Most men who've been sucked dry that I know of have low IQ. They think with their extremities and think that they score big if a pretty girl half his age professes 'love'. My Thai wife is as old as me, she's not pretty anymore but she's honest, has integrity and is highly intelligent. We love and respect each other. I can't say that for many of the women who sucked men dry. My experience is that about 90% of Thai-farang marriages fail. Money and adultery being the main reasons.

That's true in many cases. My friends here, the ones I know well, seem to have a good relationship with their wives over many years. I've seen them fight, but I've also seen them interact, which is how most marriages I've seen work. I picked the wrong woman to marry here, and she wasn't a bar girl but damaged by her parents while young. What she did with me she did before and after me. Live and learn. The most important message from your post is what you said............

"My Thai wife is as old as me, she's not pretty anymore but she's honest, has integrity and is highly intelligent. We love and respect each other."

5 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

These women were so nice you flew to Thailand to get away from them.

No, I flew to Thailand to see Thailand. Most men date a lot in all their years, and most partners aren't meant to be forever ones, as each person has their own future plans, which usually don't coincide with the other. If I would have stayed there and not visited Thailand, I would have been with one there. I'll be returning soon, and will eventually find another.

1 minute ago, fredwiggy said:

No, I flew to Thailand to see Thailand. Most men date a lot in all their years, and most partners aren't meant to be forever ones, as each person has their own future plans, which usually don't coincide with the other. If I would have stayed there and not visited Thailand, I would have been with one there. I'll be returning soon, and will eventually find another.

Then why aren't you out seeing Thailand?

3 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Then why aren't you out seeing Thailand?

Why are you concerned with what others are doing? How would you know what I do on a daily basis?

2 minutes ago, fredwiggy said:

Why are you concerned with what others are doing? How would you know what I do on a daily basis?

Why are you concerned with the dating lives of others?

Yesterday you said you were a homebody who burns cds.

Today you said you flew to Thailand to see Thailand. But if you are sitting around being a homebody burning cds you are not seeing Thailand.

So your stories don't make sense.

April is a great time to visit the southern islands but you are burning cds and not seeing Thailand.

You say western women are great but you moved to Thailand where they are rare apart from tourists.

3 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Why are you concerned with the dating lives of others?

Yesterday you said you were a homebody who burns cds.

Today you said you flew to Thailand to see Thailand. But if you are sitting around being a homebody burning cds you are not seeing Thailand.

So your stories don't make sense.

April is a great time to visit the southern islands but you are burning cds and not seeing Thailand.

You say western women are great but you moved to Thailand where they are rare apart from tourists.

3 minutes ago, Rockyroad said:

Where am I concerned with who people date? I only like to see others treat their partners well. You know, be a man and also a father if there's children.

Do you know what a homebody means? Do you think a homebody never leaves the house?

My stories always make sense as they're reality.

You concerning yourself with what others do in Thailand doesn't make sense, especially when you think visiting 100 cities is an accomplishment everyone has to do.

All decent women are great, no matter where they live.

I moved to Thailand because I met a Thai woman and we had a child. I will move back because Thailand isn't a good place for either of us. I mentioned this before.

Again, try not to assume things about other's lives you haven't met. You don't know anything they do , nor is it any of your business.