12 hours ago, Sir Dude said:

Why do you think guys are looking for feminine women abroad? Because that's the only place to find such women now. This independent woman "boss lady" nonsense lie has run its course.

Yup..

So many Western women turned into bull dy kers, fat, unhappy, jealous, insecure, permanent scowl, crazy cat or dog ladies. An attractive femine side, if it was ever there, is long gone from those ones.

More power to Western men netting younger Asian gf / wife.

10 hours ago, Rockyroad said:

At 80yo hopefully im dating a 62yo fun woman that is pleasant company. Paying a hooker at 30yo to pretend to like me is weird.

No you need someone younger to take care eventually, if 80, aim for 40/50s. You pay them to take care

12 hours ago, atpeace said:

Do you have any idea how easy it to make that catch in Thailand? You basically buy their love in most cases with rare exception. I'm not jealous and just get on with my life. To each his own and some pull it off but the odds are slim :)

You are correct that the odds are slim for you men who are overweight and drink too much alcohol and are poor mannered and have repulsive looks and complain too much and have no initiative always asking what do you want to do? what do you want to eat? Too scared to approach a young woman. Young women find these traits very undesirable in men, all men. Some young women look to having a relationship with older men because of life experiences, leadership and having the confidence of initial action. But as we can see here a lot of you men here don’t have these qualities because you never have got out much in your lives. You are the typical withdrawn loner types that come here to express the exclusion you brought upon yourselves. You are the ones who are in the financial gain trade off relationships. A lot of us men who are in relationships with women half our age understand the value and importance of self worth and respect and convey that to our younger spouses who are actually are educated and work for a living. Sure we may have supported them to achieve that goal, but this is because these younger women are looking for the leadership and guidance to obtain a higher goal of self worth, they want to work and have independence and be successful. Self worth is something a lot of you men here don’t have, and you won’t be able to convey self worth without having any self worth yourself.

1 hour ago, scubascuba3 said:

No you need someone younger to take care eventually, if 80, aim for 40/50s. You pay them to take care

I don’t know what age you are but the sooner you get the ball rolling the better.

45 minutes ago, ArchieBunker said:

I don’t know what age you are but the sooner you get the ball rolling the better.

Not really, don't need anyone yet, you have a fake one? i mean come on be honest about the financial split

12 hours ago, ArchieBunker said:

You are correct that the odds are slim for you men who are overweight and drink too much alcohol and are poor mannered and have repulsive looks and complain too much and have no initiative always asking what do you want to do? what do you want to eat? Too scared to approach a young woman. Young women find these traits very undesirable in men, all men. Some young women look to having a relationship with older men because of life experiences, leadership and having the confidence of initial action. But as we can see here a lot of you men here don’t have these qualities because you never have got out much in your lives. You are the typical withdrawn loner types that come here to express the exclusion you brought upon yourselves. You are the ones who are in the financial gain trade off relationships. A lot of us men who are in relationships with women half our age understand the value and importance of self worth and respect and convey that to our younger spouses who are actually are educated and work for a living. Sure we may have supported them to achieve that goal, but this is because these younger women are looking for the leadership and guidance to obtain a higher goal of self worth, they want to work and have independence and be successful. Self worth is something a lot of you men here don’t have, and you won’t be able to convey self worth without having any self worth yourself.

What a bunch of BS.

A young thai girl who is expected to support grandparents parents brothers etc that can "hook" a guy who will provide the $$ required for her to fulfill her "obligation" is certainly in play and there will nearly always be an older guy willing to pick up the tab in exchange for her "assets". Whether it will last or not is a crap shoot at best, especially if she starts wanting to go out with her young friends and do the fun things that is generally part of youth rather than sitting home listening to some falang complain about Thailand.

Of course it is UP to you or them but most older guys would do well to understand the dynamics before buying houses in Isaan....sadly many seem to cling to the idea that she is "different". Some may well be and some for sure are but most Thai girls certainly seem to me to understand very well how it all works and often trade a few years of their youth for $$ etc then move on to greener pastures....as do a lot of older men when they tire of being way down the list of what is important to many thai girls and the atm card is worn out from "requests".

5 minutes ago, pomchop said:

A young thai girl who is expected to support grandparents parents brothers etc that can "hook" a guy who will provide the $$ required for her to fulfill her "obligation" is certainly in play and there will nearly always be an older guy willing to pick up the tab in exchange for her "assets". Whether it will last or not is a crap shoot at best, especially if she starts wanting to go out with her young friends and do the fun things that is generally part of youth rather than sitting home listening to some falang complain about Thailand.

Of course it is UP to you or them but most older guys would do well to understand the dynamics before buying houses in Isaan....sadly many seem to cling to the idea that she is "different". Some may well be and some for sure are but most Thai girls certainly seem to me to understand very well how it all works and often trade a few years of their youth for $$ etc then move on to greener pastures....as do a lot of older men when they tire of being way down the list of what is important to many thai girls and the atm card is worn out from "requests".

Another trope from our barstool professors. There's a big world out there that doesn't smell of stale Chang and cigarettes, and not every Thai girl is a farmer's daughter working in a bar.

Yes, you can find examples to support your well-worn narrative, but there's also couples who met through work, on the BTS, through friends, in coffee shops and maybe even on-line.

Thai women don't call the police if a man makes eye contact or asks for her Line ID, so genuine partnershpis can start without payment up front.

Being able to speak Thai helps, and aiming for the mythical 'Pale skinned, HiSo Chinese/Thai heiress' may be a bridge too far for most of us, but a nice Thai girl who wants to look after a decent bloke is within reach.

And from my own experience, you can 'grow your own wife' by widening her cultural and technical experiences. They are like sponges on (great) legs - absorbing the new world you can open up for them.

On 5/25/2026 at 8:34 PM, atpeace said:

What a bunch of BS.

Haha! You just made my case by not being able to comeback with a tear down critique of my explanation for what you are.

On 5/25/2026 at 10:22 PM, Kinnock said:

Another trope from our barstool professors. There's a big world out there that doesn't smell of stale Chang and cigarettes, and not every Thai girl is a farmer's daughter working in a bar.

Yes, you can find examples to support your well-worn narrative, but there's also couples who met through work, on the BTS, through friends, in coffee shops and maybe even on-line.

Thai women don't call the police if a man makes eye contact or asks for her Line ID, so genuine partnershpis can start without payment up front.

Being able to speak Thai helps, and aiming for the mythical 'Pale skinned, HiSo Chinese/Thai heiress' may be a bridge too far for most of us, but a nice Thai girl who wants to look after a decent bloke is within reach.

And from my own experience, you can 'grow your own wife' by widening her cultural and technical experiences. They are like sponges on (great) legs - absorbing the new world you can open up for them.

Absolutely indeed. Men come to Thailand with a predisposed attitude towards Thai women here, bars and prostitution and they believe they are all poor and view all foreign men as money bags. That is an insult to more than 99 percent of the women here and if a wife seeking distaining monger is hanging out at bars and prostitutes that would not know this. No wonder why good Thai women avoid a lot of foreign men in general.

On 5/25/2026 at 8:20 AM, scubascuba3 said:

Not really, don't need anyone yet, you have a fake one? i mean come on be honest about the financial split

She is real educated and works. We don’t keep track of how much each of us spends but she pays for the utilities and everything else who knows, maybe 70/30 me being the 70.

42 minutes ago, ArchieBunker said:

Haha! You just made my case by not being able to comeback with a tear down critique of my explanation for what you are.

No, just didn't want to waste my time with an obvious fool. Your post reeked of desperation and why pile on.

On 5/23/2026 at 8:34 PM, Effective altruism said:

A 70-year-old gramps with a 20-year-old woman looks downright silly.

So a 70yr old man should go with a 50 ? .............two ... 25's sounds like a lot more fun !

On 5/23/2026 at 8:49 PM, BilllyGOAT said:

A couple of footnotes to my OP. I am suggesting a situation where the age gap is no more than roughly a doubling in age, with the people involved still being at least somewhat socially relatable to one another, not a tripling in age or some extreme difference between the man and the woman.

Also, this is not really a question of morality, at least not in the way I am exploring the subject. The question is more whether the woman is getting as much out of the relationship as the man is.

The man may be gaining a younger partner who is potentially more energetic, more open minded, more physically attractive, healthier, and more physically capable than a woman closer to his own age. So the real question becomes: what does the man offer that is of equal value in return, in a genuine give and take sense?

As I said from the beginning, this is not mainly about financial exchange. It may benefit the woman if the man has more money or greater stability, but that is not necessarily the driving force bringing the two together. What interests me more is whether the woman may be settling for less than what she could potentially have with a man closer to her own age, someone who may have a longer future ahead of him and who is less likely to become elderly, physically dependent, or in need of caregiving much sooner in the relationship.

What about the older woman and the younger man?

Whatever or who it might be.

It is nobodies business except the couple involved.

If no one else is harmed.

Let them live there life.

Too many people thinking about what others are doing with there life.

Have a look at your own life first.

I bet you are not perfect either.

Rubbish

I am 73 and live with my girlfriend who is 53. (and two cats)

We are compatible, both like the quiet life

8 minutes ago, Deerculler said:

I bet you are not perfect either.

You nailed it. My life is in absolute shambles. I'm suffering from oversized todger disorder. I've seen many doctors about it already. Best advice I got so far to get it down to a normal length was to fold it in half and cut off six inches. Admittedly, I haven't taken any action yet. Still exploring all options.

I even went to a small local pharmacy to ask for advice. I showed the two pharmacist gals behind the counter my problem and I asked them if they have anything they could give me for it. One immediately responded by offering to give me the ฿5000 she had in the till and said she could pay me more next week. Nothing is ever simple it seems.

Edited May 29May 29 by BilllyGOAT

On 5/23/2026 at 7:08 PM, BilllyGOAT said:

Even if a man is still in good physical shape and could also pass at quick glance for someone 15 years younger than their actual age, is it unkind for them to get involved with women who are half their age?

Personally, I tend to think it is not fair, like being offered a free mint and grabbing the whole jar, which is why I avoid it. Even if some women do not seem to mind at first, and even if basic attraction is there, I still feel that it is not what they would truly choose for themselves if everything were equal. If they have a lot to offer then I think they deserve more, and many would be better matched with someone closer to their own age, someone who shares a similar level of life experience, and a similar stage in terms of what they want from life.

There is also the question of what someone older brings into that dynamic beyond just appearance or attraction, and a bit of financial stability. With age often comes more cynicism, more fixed views, and less openness to new ideas or spontaneous adventure. That shift can quietly shape the relationship in ways that are not always obvious at the beginning. Because of that, it can feel unfair for a younger person to end up adapting to someone who has already done most of what they want to do in life and is no longer approaching the world with the same sense of exploration and possibility.

There is also a sense that I would be taking something that does not really belong to me, even if it is offered freely. I remember what it was like to be at that earlier stage of life, wanting to travel, explore, and figure things out. It does not feel right to step into that space from a completely different point in life and expect it to work on equal footing.

Of course, many men do not think this way and are comfortable pursuing relationships with much younger women as long as they themselves feel happy and fulfilled. From my perspective though, it can sometimes come across as selfish and self absorbed, focusing only one's own personal satisfaction without fully considering the other person’s longer term hopes and desires.

For me, even if the opportunity is there, it is something I usually choose not to act on.

It take two to Tango. That's all to say

On 5/23/2026 at 7:08 PM, BilllyGOAT said:

Even if a man is still in good physical shape and could also pass at quick glance for someone 15 years younger than their actual age, is it unkind for them to get involved with women who are half their age?

Personally, I tend to think it is not fair, like being offered a free mint and grabbing the whole jar, which is why I avoid it. Even if some women do not seem to mind at first, and even if basic attraction is there, I still feel that it is not what they would truly choose for themselves if everything were equal. If they have a lot to offer then I think they deserve more, and many would be better matched with someone closer to their own age, someone who shares a similar level of life experience, and a similar stage in terms of what they want from life.

There is also the question of what someone older brings into that dynamic beyond just appearance or attraction, and a bit of financial stability. With age often comes more cynicism, more fixed views, and less openness to new ideas or spontaneous adventure. That shift can quietly shape the relationship in ways that are not always obvious at the beginning. Because of that, it can feel unfair for a younger person to end up adapting to someone who has already done most of what they want to do in life and is no longer approaching the world with the same sense of exploration and possibility.

There is also a sense that I would be taking something that does not really belong to me, even if it is offered freely. I remember what it was like to be at that earlier stage of life, wanting to travel, explore, and figure things out. It does not feel right to step into that space from a completely different point in life and expect it to work on equal footing.

Of course, many men do not think this way and are comfortable pursuing relationships with much younger women as long as they themselves feel happy and fulfilled. From my perspective though, it can sometimes come across as selfish and self absorbed, focusing only one's own personal satisfaction without fully considering the other person’s longer term hopes and desires.

For me, even if the opportunity is there, it is something I usually choose not to act on.

I can answer your question because I asked the ladies.

Simply put we offer stability maturity we are not looking to go out every night and party.

But mainly it's because we can offer them a good marriage for a short time then they can look for another husband after we die and they are still young enough to find another husband.

Why do we look for younger simple would you rather be seen with an older lady or yong beautiful lady on your arm

On 5/23/2026 at 8:34 PM, Effective altruism said:

A 70-year-old gramps with a 20-year-old woman looks downright silly.

One size doesn't fit all, but some still get by just fine.

Edited May 29May 29 by BilllyGOAT

What's not fair about it?

Think yourself lucky you have the opportunity to date someone younger in a location where the sex industry is the biggest employer.

I think there is envy and jealousy here with anyone concerned what ages are for people that marry or live together and annoyed about it. Prob too ugly to get a younger woman, unless you pay by the hour for her.

But in a twist, my wife is on the receiving end of jealousy and envy. She gets it because she dresses a lot nicer, wearing designer or name brands, cart blanche on any cosmetic procedure/surgery, doctor or dental etc, and on top of that, she doesn't work.

Whataya mean, is it fair? Maybe billygoat just needs to find another goat to shag.

Life isn't fair.

If life was fair, I'd be living (age 70) in a big house in the UK with my 69yo wife.

Instead, I have to live in the tropics with a 50yo wife ....... dammit!

Edited May 29May 29 by BritManToo

On 5/23/2026 at 4:10 PM, xylophone said:

When I first arrived here almost 20 years ago, seeing young and attractive women going out with/attached to much older men, made me cringe a bit.

Now that I've been here for those 20 years and observed what has occurred with friends of mine, both men and women, I've come to the conclusion that relationships here can be based on completely different criteria, and not that which constitutes a "normal" relationship in other countries and societies.

For example a wealthy older man can provide a younger woman with a good standard of living and funds through which she can take care of her parents and extended family, and in return she looks after him and cares for him and it is a mutually beneficial relationship which suits both parties. Sex doesn't always play a major part in these relationships, especially if the man is quite a bit older, and that seems to be acceptable to both parties (based on my experiences).

In a few instances of which I am aware, the younger woman actually loves and dotes on the older man and treats him with a great deal of respect and it doesn't come down to the nuts and bolts of cash, more mutual respect and a desire to look after her partner. Sure she and her family will benefit in the long run, but looking at it from the male side of things, he has been looked after, taken care of, nursed and fed through his dotage and has lived out his final years in relative peace and comfort.

I can't see anything wrong with this scenario and hope to be part of it in the not too distant future!

100% agree . For older guys with a younger lady in Thailand , it is quite often a social contract . She takes good care of him and in return he will subsidise / contribute towards her costs of living . There are many such relationships in Thailand . If an elderly Western guy was back in his homeland I doubt that he would receive that level of love , care and attention . If you have a good trustworthy and honest woman , its a no brainer life style .

1 minute ago, superal said:

If you have a good trustworthy and honest woman , its a no brainer life style .

I prefer a slim one with nice tits!

3 minutes ago, NedR69 said:

Whataya mean, is it fair? Maybe billygoat just needs to find another goat to shag.

Or I could just continue to plow your missus when you're out of town. Those arrangements where somebody else is paying the full boat rent on the unit, but only using it 20% of the time, are always some of the best gratuitous hookup opportunities in Thailand.

9 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

Life isn't fair.

If life was fair, I'd be living (age 70) in a big house in the UK with my 69yo wife.

Instead, I have to live in the tropics with a 50yo wife ....... dammit!

Maybe you're selling yourself short. Why not look for a 69 year old model in Thailand. It would be worth the money to upgrade.

36 minutes ago, Deerculler said:

What about the older woman and the younger man?

Whatever or who it might be.

It is nobodies business except the couple involved.

If no one else is harmed.

Let them live there life.

Too many people thinking about what others are doing with there life.

Have a look at your own life first.

I bet you are not perfect either.

There is one on social media now who is bragging about his girlfriend being 22 years older than him. Located in Patong. I am sure he will show up in my feed again soon, if nobody else manages to link him here first.

Could it be that he is on a low budget? Or is it true love?

As a twenty-year-old boy/man, I could easily have been with a 40–50-year-old woman for a period of time. I did have a few friends with benefits, because it was problem-free relations without the hassle, especially considering how much I was travelling at the time.

Even then, my preferred age has always been women in their early 30s.

I guess there are many reasons why a woman chooses a man much older than herself. And that is something that should concern the men involved, not so much us.

But we can still say what we are thinking about it, or?

Best case scenario.

9 minutes ago, BilllyGOAT said:

Maybe you're selling yourself short. Why not look for a 69 year old model in Thailand. It would be worth the money to upgrade.

I'm fairly sure I'd find a 30yo ............

13 minutes ago, BritManToo said:

I'm fairly sure I'd find a 30yo ............

Some guys turn out just fine without ever having a girlfriend. This chap looks to have done quite well staying single.