32 minutes ago, BilllyGOAT said:

Some guys turn out just fine without ever having a girlfriend. This chap looks to have done quite well staying single.

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It's difficult to fight them all off though.

I just don't have the energy to keep saying NO any more.

On 5/23/2026 at 11:49 PM, BilllyGOAT said:

A couple of footnotes to my OP. I am suggesting a situation where the age gap is no more than roughly a doubling in age, with the people involved still being at least somewhat socially relatable to one another, not a tripling in age or some extreme difference between the man and the woman.

Also, this is not really a question of morality, at least not in the way I am exploring the subject. The question is more whether the woman is getting as much out of the relationship as the man is.

The man may be gaining a younger partner who is potentially more energetic, more open minded, more physically attractive, healthier, and more physically capable than a woman closer to his own age. So the real question becomes: what does the man offer that is of equal value in return, in a genuine give and take sense?

As I said from the beginning, this is not mainly about financial exchange. It may benefit the woman if the man has more money or greater stability, but that is not necessarily the driving force bringing the two together. What interests me more is whether the woman may be settling for less than what she could potentially have with a man closer to her own age, someone who may have a longer future ahead of him and who is less likely to become elderly, physically dependent, or in need of caregiving much sooner in the relationship.

What are you asking those questions here? The overwhelming majority of posters are men.

Try asking women if you really want answers.

1 hour ago, NedR69 said:

I think there is envy and jealousy here with anyone concerned what ages are for people that marry or live together and annoyed about it. Prob too ugly to get a younger woman, unless you pay by the hour for her.

But in a twist, my wife is on the receiving end of jealousy and envy. She gets it because she dresses a lot nicer, wearing designer or name brands, cart blanche on any cosmetic procedure/surgery, doctor or dental etc, and on top of that, she doesn't work.

Whataya mean, is it fair? Maybe billygoat just needs to find another goat to shag.

Nailed it. Lots and lots of incels here.

My 34-year-old American wife also doesn't work. Now the 30-year-old Thai teacher I'm considering as a second wife is a math teacher.

1 hour ago, NedR69 said:

I think there is envy and jealousy here with anyone concerned what ages are for people that marry or live together and annoyed about it. Prob too ugly to get a younger woman, unless you pay by the hour for her.

But in a twist, my wife is on the receiving end of jealousy and envy. She gets it because she dresses a lot nicer, wearing designer or name brands, cart blanche on any cosmetic procedure/surgery, doctor or dental etc, and on top of that, she doesn't work.

Whataya mean, is it fair? Maybe billygoat just needs to find another goat to shag.

How much does your Wife cost to run per month ?

How much do you spend on her ?

8 minutes ago, Slowhand225 said:

Nailed it. Lots and lots of incels here.
My 34-year-old American wife also doesn't work. Now the 30-year-old Thai teacher I'm considering as a second wife is a math teacher.

Average wage of Thai math teacher age 30 around 17kbht/month in debt to about 2Mbht.

No thanks ............

Edited May 29May 29 by BritManToo

On 5/23/2026 at 7:38 PM, BilllyGOAT said:

I am describing a situation where a woman is genuinely attracted to an older man because he appears much younger than his age. She is comfortable with that, finds him attractive, and the mutual connection goes beyond a financial exchange. Of course, the man may have more money due to his age and accumulated wealth, which could mean he is able to do more things with her and take her to more places than a younger man because of his means. However, that is not the focus or foundation of the relationship I am describing. I am talking about a situation where the woman is interested in the man because she sees him as a good partner and someone she can build a future with and enjoy her life alongside.

The title indicates fairness for older men to date younger women…….I fail to see relevance of “fairness”. Fair to whom??, the man, the woman, older men who can’t get a date?? Color me confused where this is going, because your post above seems to agree it is okay for older men to date younger women. but your original post says quote: "Personally, I tend to think it is not fair” again, not fair to who?? Me?? I think this is a “Nunya” ‘None of your business” what other people do. Peace

2 hours ago, BritManToo said:

Life isn't fair.

If life was fair, I'd be living (age 70) in a big house in the UK with my 69yo wife.

Instead, I have to live in the tropics with a 50yo wife ....... dammit!

You could have rented that UK house out for about 1000 GBP per week , giving you 43 000 baht a week to live on in Thailand

I am 85, my wife is 70. Still happily together after 40 years. Our age difference has never been an issue although she does most of the driving these days.

since when has life been fair?

12 minutes ago, Dionigi said:

since when has life been fair?

If you want to play victim, it never will be. Life becomes what you decide to make of it.

Just small self evident truths, you decide

On 5/23/2026 at 7:08 PM, BilllyGOAT said:

Even if a man is still in good physical shape and could also pass at quick glance for someone 15 years younger than their actual age, is it unkind for them to get involved with women who are half their age?

Personally, I tend to think it is not fair, like being offered a free mint and grabbing the whole jar, which is why I avoid it. Even if some women do not seem to mind at first, and even if basic attraction is there, I still feel that it is not what they would truly choose for themselves if everything were equal. If they have a lot to offer then I think they deserve more, and many would be better matched with someone closer to their own age, someone who shares a similar level of life experience, and a similar stage in terms of what they want from life.

There is also the question of what someone older brings into that dynamic beyond just appearance or attraction, and a bit of financial stability. With age often comes more cynicism, more fixed views, and less openness to new ideas or spontaneous adventure. That shift can quietly shape the relationship in ways that are not always obvious at the beginning. Because of that, it can feel unfair for a younger person to end up adapting to someone who has already done most of what they want to do in life and is no longer approaching the world with the same sense of exploration and possibility.

There is also a sense that I would be taking something that does not really belong to me, even if it is offered freely. I remember what it was like to be at that earlier stage of life, wanting to travel, explore, and figure things out. It does not feel right to step into that space from a completely different point in life and expect it to work on equal footing.

sometimes come across as selfish and self absorbed, focusing only one's own personal satisfaction without fully considering the other person’s longer term hopes and desires.

Of course, many men do not think this way and are comfortable pursuing relationships with much younger women as long as they themselves feel happy and fulfilled. From my perspective though, it can sometimes come across as selfish and self absorbed, focusing only one's own personal satisfaction without fully considering the other person’s longer term hopes and desires.

For me, even if the opportunity is there, it is something I usually choose not to act o

Of course it is fair.

The young woman is with the old man as she is just after his money, the older he is the quicker she will get his money , pension and his assets when he dies, this is on top of the money they get up until that point.

Her mother and father's care paid for by the old farang will be part of the deal.

He gets the use of a nice young body, he will probably put out of his mind that the relationship is based on money as the girl will already be skilled in convincing him that is not the case and so his ego takes over from simple logic.

So she gets the money, he gets the young woman and both pretend to be happy.

I have come across thousands of guys over the year with this set up.

If a guy wants a young woman why does he marry them, why not get a new young one whenever the fancy takes them, after all the only skill needed is to be able to take your wallet out of your pocket.

But many an old man thinks the girls are just after that huge bulge in his trousers, he can see some girls can't take their eyes off of it, no not that one, the bulged made by his wallet. 😀

And to pre-empt any comments such as I am jealous or I wished I could do it well the answer is I can as I also have a big bulge in my pocket too, stuffed to the brim with 1000 baht notes.

Edited May 29May 29 by JamesPhuket10

It's totally unfair. Imagine having a hot young woman in your house. You would like to shag 4 times a day (like when you where young) but, because you are so old, can get it up just once a week, if at all. That will drive you insane.

If both are happy with what they each bring to the table who am I to judge? My closest friend is 80 and wealthy. His Thai wife is 50 and when I see them it is clear she really does love him a lot- yes I am sure his wealth was influential at the start of the relationship- but 20 years later she clearly sees a lot more than just financial stability in him

On 5/25/2026 at 5:52 AM, Woke to Sounds said:

Yup..

So many Western women turned into bull dy kers, fat, unhappy, jealous, insecure, permanent scowl, crazy cat or dog ladies. An attractive femine side, if it was ever there, is long gone from those ones.

More power to Western men netting younger Asian gf / wife.

The reality is most guys do not have enough money to buy a young gold digger in a western country so they come to Thailand where they can afford to buy a one, such women exist all over the world but at a different cost level.

So in reality these guy only have a choice in a poorer country.

5 hours ago, Nick Carter icp said:

You could have rented that UK house out for about 1000 GBP per week , giving you 43 000 baht a week to live on in Thailand

Not many people who can afford 52k a year in rent would pay that, unless it was in Kensington London etc, they could buy a nice house with a mortgage with that income.

Average rents in the UK are £1,381 a month, mine is rented out for £1,700 a month as it is in the South East, it is extra beer money.

6 hours ago, BritManToo said:

It's difficult to fight them all off though.

I just don't have the energy to keep saying NO any more.

Tell them you have no money, you are poor, they will soon leave you alone, it happens to me and so I say "my me stang", they run off faster than a rat up a drain pipe.😃

14 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Tell them you have no money, you are poor, they will soon leave you alone, it happens to me and so I say "my me stang", they run off faster than a rat up a drain pipe.😃

It didn't work well, she stuck to me!

21 minutes ago, Hummin said:

It didn't work well, she stuck to me!

Tell her she has to pay for everything from now on, see how that goes. 😃

3 minutes ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Tell her she has to pay for everything from now on, see how that goes. 😃

We are partners, and we both do our share for the marriage and makes the best out of it as it is.

On 5/23/2026 at 7:40 PM, Hummin said:

A 50–60 year old man, or older, chasing 25 year old women or younger is, in my eyes, questionable what motives they might have

I would suggest that the motives are pretty straightforward...

Chasing is of course one thing. Managing to keep up is quite another!

9 hours ago, Luuk Chaai said:

So a 70yr old man should go with a 50 ? .............two ... 25's sounds like a lot more fun !

Sounds expensive.

9 hours ago, BilllyGOAT said:

One size doesn't fit all, but some still get by just fine.

This photo reminds me of Pattaya.

On 5/23/2026 at 1:08 PM, BilllyGOAT said:

Even if a man is still in good physical shape and could also pass at quick glance for someone 15 years younger than their actual age, is it unkind for them to get involved with women who are half their age?

Personally, I tend to think it is not fair, like being offered a free mint and grabbing the whole jar, which is why I avoid it. Even if some women do not seem to mind at first, and even if basic attraction is there, I still feel that it is not what they would truly choose for themselves if everything were equal. If they have a lot to offer then I think they deserve more, and many would be better matched with someone closer to their own age, someone who shares a similar level of life experience, and a similar stage in terms of what they want from life.

There is also the question of what someone older brings into that dynamic beyond just appearance or attraction, and a bit of financial stability. With age often comes more cynicism, more fixed views, and less openness to new ideas or spontaneous adventure. That shift can quietly shape the relationship in ways that are not always obvious at the beginning. Because of that, it can feel unfair for a younger person to end up adapting to someone who has already done most of what they want to do in life and is no longer approaching the world with the same sense of exploration and possibility.

There is also a sense that I would be taking something that does not really belong to me, even if it is offered freely. I remember what it was like to be at that earlier stage of life, wanting to travel, explore, and figure things out. It does not feel right to step into that space from a completely different point in life and expect it to work on equal footing.

Of course, many men do not think this way and are comfortable pursuing relationships with much younger women as long as they themselves feel happy and fulfilled. From my perspective though, it can sometimes come across as selfish and self absorbed, focusing only one's own personal satisfaction without fully considering the other person’s longer term hopes and desires.

For me, even if the opportunity is there, it is something I usually choose not to act on.

On 5/23/2026 at 1:17 PM, JackGats said:

In each and every case, this is for the "much younger woman" to decide, not for some other man's or woman's jealous ass.

I had a friend who was handsome, well off, but also a super character, world traveled etc . He was known throughout town as a great guy. Women all fell for him, and he had 2 long standing beauties who were much younger. It’s all down to the personality I think, and women appreciate kindness.

1 hour ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

Not many people who can afford 52k a year in rent would pay that, unless it was in Kensington London etc, they could buy a nice house with a mortgage with that income.

Average rents in the UK are £1,381 a month, mine is rented out for £1,700 a month as it is in the South East, it is extra beer money.

He says he had a large six bedroom house with a large garden and he employed gardener .

Well, first of all, I’d like to thank the 20 plus geezers who gave my original post a thumbs down. I genuinely never expected this wind up to become such a roaring success. Six feckin pages of triggered blokes already. Bloody hell.

I clearly underestimated the fragility of the egos involved here, particularly among those elderly gentlemen with partners in Thailand half their age, or less. Outstanding effort, lads.

And of course, a special round of applause for the stoic ones who did not thumb it down because they genuinely do not give a toss what anyone thinks or understands about the whole arrangement. These brave souls are simply grateful that their state pension can still buy their sorry arses a wee bit of a happy ending somewhere on this planet. Good on you! 😂

If she agrees, and he agrees, what's the problem?

Actually, I do know 2 older women who have much younger husbands. Both couples get on very well and have been together years. Then I know another woman of around 36 who was with a young man, he was hopelessly in love with her. She loved him too but left him because she felt it was unfair on him. Broke his heart. They’re still in touch online . I personally think it could have worked. None of them had mother complexes from what I saw. All very stable. I think all types of relationships can work, if love is there.

22 minutes ago, geisha said:

Actually, I do know 2 older women who have much younger husbands. Both couples get on very well and have been together years

This is common, mostly with men with limited budget.

A long term visa is more economical to stay in Thailand, these poorer men looking for anything to shack up with, they end up with the dregs, the old girl in the bar, been working there for years, who never gets bar fined.

As the years go by they move on to the aged pension, it's why some these pensioners are always grumpy, angry with themselves, they hate the world.

Edited May 29May 29 by SAFETY FIRST

11 hours ago, JamesPhuket10 said:

The reality is most guys do not have enough money to buy a young gold digger in a western country so they come to Thailand where they can afford to buy a one, such women exist all over the world but at a different cost level.

So in reality these guy only have a choice in a poorer country.

Yes, point taken, but why would a guy want to buy a gold digger, of any age?

Nice to look at, sure, but like a vintage Triumph Bonneville nothin but problems!

17 hours ago, Hummin said:

If you want to play victim, it never will be. Life becomes what you decide to make of it.

Just small self evident truths, you decide

Accepting that life is not just is the opposite of playing a victim. You accept what comes and make the best of it

“The rain it raineth on the just
And also on the unjust fella;
But chiefly on the just, because
The unjust hath the just’s umbrella.”

― Charles Bowen