14 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

Same questions from me, same inability to answer from you.

They have been answered many times. Any reply that does not fit with your agenda is filed as not being answered. You simply repeat the same question or just put the reply that you want, into other people's mouths. You are not capable of any kind of growth. You are done.

3 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

How do you propose they are going to pull that off that manufacturing miracle in the USA?

Have no idea.

Will need to follow developments.

Edit: just asked AI, and got this.

Seriously though, none of here are economists. It's way over our pay grade. But just to continue to make blanket statements like "Trump is insane" is silly.

Edited June 1Jun 1 by save the frogs

1 minute ago, save the frogs said:

Have no idea.

Will need to follow developments.

Have any of their financial pronouncements come to fruition? Even a single one? All they have done so far, is to steal from the American people under different guises.

1 minute ago, FigLeaf said:

Have any of their financial pronouncements come to fruition? Even a single one? All they have done so far, is to steal from the American people under different guises.

Takes time.

Complex issues.

People are too impatient.

Steal? How?

3 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

They have been answered many times. Any reply that does not fit with your agenda is filed as not being answered. You simply repeat the same question or just put the reply that you want, into other people's mouths. You are not capable of any kind of growth. You are done.

First, this was the first time I have ever asked anyone: "Do you support NATO and or EU members that denies the US to use their airspace and military bases?, so you just made up that it was the same old question, and lied about having answered it.

The second question was: Do you think Iran should be allowed to further develop their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs?, and yes, I have asked that question many times, and I have gotten answers from a few people, but never from you, because all you can do dodge.

They are both easy questions, yet all you can do is run away, and blame me for your unwillingness to answer.

13 minutes ago, save the frogs said:

Takes time.

Complex issues.

People are too impatient.

Steal? How?

Tariffs for a start...

25 minutes ago, Hummin said:

You keep drifting and moving the target. This is a debate none of us will win. There are too many variables to pretend we know the final outcome.

Trump keeps blaming Obama for the Iran war, and if you do not see the red dotted line, I cannot help you further. Nor is that my mission. I have stated what I needed to say, and I do not care to drag this further out.

When it comes to Europe backing the USA in a war Europe was not invited into, after all the noise and anti-European rhetoric from Trump, Hegseth, and Vance?

Get real.

What is the target? Please tell me what it is you want me to answer.

I support Trump because I do not want the things for my country the left wants for it. It is a simple as that.

Too many variables, not black and white, blah blah blah, but at the end of the day, there were no variables, and it was black and white, Harris or Trump.

There are things I do not like, and things I like, and I think had Europe been "invited", a few countries would have done all they count to undermine the effort.

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

First, this was the first time I have ever asked anyone: "Do you support NATO and or EU members that denies the US to use their airspace and military bases?, so you just made up that it was the same old question, and lied about having answered it.

The second question was: Do you think Iran should be allowed to further develop their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs?, and yes, I have asked that question many times, and I have gotten answers from a few people, but never from you, because all you can do dodge.

They are both easy questions, yet all you can do is run away, and blame me for your unwillingness to answer.

No one is interested in taking part in an inquisition. It's a discussion, rather than an interrogation. It seems, that in your mind, there is no difference. That's what happens when nationalism takes over basic humanity. Learn from the past.

5 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

Tariffs for a start...

I was against the tariffs from the get, but tariffs can only be called stealing in the same way that sales taxes and corporate income taxes are stealing.

8 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

Tariffs for a start...

As the AI post above mentions, tariffs is actually connected to reshoring manufacturing.

It was the 1st step in the process.

Although it may have negative effects on some people in the short-term, it doesn't mean it will absolutely be a net negative in the long-term.

3 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

No one is interested in taking part in an inquisition. It's a discussion, rather than an interrogation. It seems, that in your mind, there is no difference. That's what happens when nationalism takes over basic humanity. Learn from the past.

But I thought you said the questions had been answered many times? Were you lying then, or are you lying now?

Oh, what a tangled web we weave...

It is amusing the number of anti-Americans that support Iran and hate Israel refuse to answer simple questions.

20 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Yeah, the left is doing all they can to ruin the 250 celebration, that's how they roll.

I would rather send him to prison, but Blanche and Patel need to go first.

4 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I was against the tariffs from the get, but tariffs can only be called stealing in the same way that sales taxes and corporate income taxes are stealing.

Not at all. The tariffs were sold to the America people as the exporting countries having to pay them. It took a while to dawn on the Americans that they were the ones having to pay them.

I had to explain that to a few people. They were astounded. Really.

Who is going to pay for expensive American made goods? Who is going to work for the low wages necessary to make the products affordable? Remembering now they will have to compete with robotics. So people won't be needed in great numbers. So what happens to them? They'll continue to feed off each other, even worse than they do now. That's why you are at each others throats.

1 minute ago, cjinchiangrai said:

I would rather send him to prison, but Blanche and Patel need to go first.

What would you send them to prison for?

Just now, Yellowtail said:

What would you send them to prison for?

Come on... Really?

Even if they listed everything, you would retort with...But Biden/Obama...

You are past any kind of harmonious living with your neighbours. Only looking for people to scapegoat and to hate.

8 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

It is amusing the number of anti-Americans that support Iran and hate Israel refuse to answer simple questions.

Gosh, you should throw in Jew hater and anti-Semitic too for good measure.

You despise him, but no one else can. Is he(Trump) your father?

Edited June 1Jun 1 by FigLeaf

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Iran murders thousands of protestors, and the left is moaning about gas prices.

Didn't you post that regime change was never an objective of the US special operation in Iran? 😂

58 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I thought Iran, Russia and China are what's painted as the problem.

Do you support NATO and or EU members that denies the US to use their airspace and military bases?

Do you think Iran should be allowed to further develop their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs?

So naive and simple answer to things. Nobody here supports further development of nuclear missiles in Iran. After that, this is about how unhinged Trump is and totally deranged. We are talking about much more than only the war in Iran, but it´s good that you get something to be hooked on.

You people have been brain-washed. Just look at how the confidence percentage has shifted, that now affects all swing states. There you can see that many people actually have seen how crazy he is. Now it´s only you and a few left that are still fighting common sense and human intelligence.

And yeah, I also thought that Iran Russia, China, North Korea was the problem. Now it seems like Mr. Trump is applying for a membership in that esteemed group.

So, wake up now, Yellowtail! You are in severe minority. Stop holding on to something that could have been and materialized and start living in reality and see things for what they are.

1 minute ago, FigLeaf said:

Not at all. The tariffs were sold to the America people as the exporting countries having to pay them. It took a while to dawn on the Americans that they were the ones having to pay them.

I had to explain that to a few people. They were astounded. Really.

Who is going to pay for expensive American made goods? Who is going to work for the low wages necessary to make the products affordable? Remembering now they will have to compete with robotics. So people won't be needed in great numbers. So what happens to them? They'll continue to feed off each other, even worse than they do now. That's why you are at each others throats.

Except that you said they were stealing, please explain how they are stealing.

The consumer pays for tariffs, the same way the consumer pays for corporate income taxes, yet tariffs benefit domestic manufacturers, while corporate income taxes benefit foreigner manufactures, correct?

Incidentally, the high inflation that tariffs were projected to cause never materialized.

Again, generally, I am now, and have always been against tariffs.

1 minute ago, Yellowtail said:

Except that you said they were stealing, please explain how they are stealing.

The consumer pays for tariffs, the same way the consumer pays for corporate income taxes, yet tariffs benefit domestic manufacturers, while corporate income taxes benefit foreigner manufactures, correct?

Incidentally, the high inflation that tariffs were projected to cause never materialized.

Again, generally, I am now, and have always been against tariffs.

Taking money under false pretences, is stealing. Insider trading is stealing. Do you have a different definition?

1 minute ago, Gottfrid said:

So naive and simple answer to things. Nobody here supports further development of nuclear missiles in Iran. After that, this is about how unhinged Trump is and totally deranged. We are talking about much more than only the war in Iran, but it´s good that you get something to be hooked on.

You people have been brain-washed. Just look at how the confidence percentage has shifted, that now affects all swing states. There you can see that many people actually have seen how crazy he is. Now it´s only you and a few left that are still fighting common sense and human intelligence.

And yeah, I also thought that Iran Russia, China, North Korea was the problem. Now it seems like Mr. Trump is applying for a membership in that esteemed group.

So, wake up now, Yellowtail! You are in severe minority. Stop holding on to something that could have been and materialized and start living in reality and see things for what they are.

So, we only disagree because I, and half the US population, has been brainwashed, apparently by someone that the left insists is a complete moron, that is in serious mental decline, correct?

And no, not everyone here thinks Iran should not be allowed to further develop their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs. That you do, and admit you do, is refreshing. Thanks!

5 minutes ago, FigLeaf said:

Taking money under false pretences, is stealing. Insider trading is stealing. Do you have a different definition?

You said tariffs were stealing, please explain how tariffs are stealing.

11 minutes ago, candide said:

Didn't you post that regime change was never an objective of the US special operation in Iran? 😂

I said it was never a stated objective, yes. Why?

Soon on sale with larger discount! 😃

7 hours ago, Hummin said:

How many Threads was it with and about Biden in comparison when he was in the same position ?

And that wasn't even based on facts. Biden is still more competent and coherent than the fascist in chief.

2 hours ago, Yellowtail said:

Iran murders thousands of protestors, and the left is moaning about gas prices.

6 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

I said it was never a stated objective, yes. Why?

Because gas prices are higher and Iranian opponents are still murdered.

Seriously, a malignant, sociopathic narcissist showing empathy for a man wrongly imprisoned for 6 months by his own Administration—he has definitely and completely lost the plot.

https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116671799302513930

5 minutes ago, Yellowtail said:

You said tariffs were stealing, please explain how tariffs are stealing.

I already explained that to you.

Convincing people that the money was being collected from external countries, only to find out that it was Americans and American companies having to pay, for the most part.

Further to that, you also need to understand that the ridiculous amounts of money being talked about, has to come from somewhere. Elon cannot have trillions in isolation of everyone else. In order for him to have more, you have to have less. That's they way it works. There are finite resources to be shared amongst the people. If a few people grab it all, then what is left for the people?

This is why you are fighting amongst each other. The right hand blaming the left. Fighting over scraps on the table. Being given false hope time after time, whilst the rich gorge themselves and then throw some scraps to their loyal attack dogs.. He is throwing it in your faces and yet, you still defend him with all of your might.

Look at the scammy little scheme that he cooked up with the corrupt D.O.J in order to rob the American taxpayers to pay off a few.

Edited June 1Jun 1 by FigLeaf

1 minute ago, candide said:

Because gas prices are higher and Iranian opponents are still murdered.

Yes, gas prices are higher, and the left is moaning about it.

What do you mean by Iranian opponents are still murdered?

Do you think Iran should not be allowed to further develop their intercontinental ballistic missile, military drone, and nuclear programs?